Wyoming GOP Rep. Liz Cheney said at The Texas Tribune festival Saturday that if former President Donald Trump becomes the Republican Party’s nominee for president in 2024, she will not remain a Republican.

“I’m going to make sure Donald Trump, I’m going to do everything I can to make sure he is not the nominee. And if he is the nominee, I won’t be a Republican,” Cheney said.

Cheney also said she will campaign for Democrats to ensure that Republican candidates who promote election lies do not get elected.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/24/politics/liz-cheney-republican-party-donald-trump-2024/index.html

Golly - talk about throwing red meat to the MAGA brigade!

 

I suppose that the question is how many Republicans are prepared to do the same to make sure that Trumpism ( and it does seem to be a classic political "ism" movement based on the ambition of one man and devoid of any moral or political philosophy to underpin it other than the desires of one man) is defeated.

I don’t like Cheney, but she’s the only Republican left with balls.

 

 

 

The problem is that Liz Cheney lost all credibiltiy long ago because of her support for the Iraq war. As deputy assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs during the run-up to the Iraq war, she played a central role in promoting the lies that led to that war.  As far as I could find she still defends it.

Her sister who is gay won't have anything to do with her because of her public opposition to gay marriage.

I think Cheney bet that Trump would crash and burn. When that didn't happen she found herself in a politically untenable position and tried to recast herself as the principled opposition.

LIke her father, she's a lowlife and is best shunned by the Democrats.

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wished she would just go away. Trump won't be running again.

8 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

wished she would just go away. Trump won't be running again.

Ironically she may be one of the reasons Trump is still politically active! One of his defences against her investigations must be the hope that as a presidential candidate the "system" will be unwilling to attempt to bring him to trial.

 

Incidentally, should the Republican Party take control of the house after the mid term elections, what would happen to the January 6th Committee proceedings, and indeed all the other federal investigations into his antics - will they just be shut down, any reports just ignored and left to gather dust? 

 

Trump must be banking on a Republican house majority whitewashing his various shenanigans.

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If and when the GOP gets past this orange nightmare, perhaps splitting into two or more parties, Liz and Kinzinger will be at the top of the heap of one of them.  Do not lose sight of who or what she is.  She has ambitions, to be sure.

As for daddy, Iraq War II was all his, and good conservatives don't defy their parents.  I'd put him in the same class as Putin when it comes to handling obstacles, though I am not accusing him causing bloody assassinations: the way he handled Jesse Jackson during the 2000 vote count is more like it.

Still hoping for a 3rd-party split for 2024, maybe even DT as a fugitive candidate.

 

7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Incidentally, should the Republican Party take control of the house after the mid term elections, what would happen to the January 6th Committee proceedings, and indeed all the other federal investigations into his antics - will they just be shut down, any reports just ignored and left to gather dust? 

Yes, all gone.  Weekly calls for Biden impeachments, qanon-quality accusations, pics of prominent Dems with baby parts on their dinner plates, etc.

 

 

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14 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Ironically she may be one of the reasons Trump is still politically active! One of his defences against her investigations must be the hope that as a presidential candidate the "system" will be unwilling to attempt to bring him to trial.

 

Incidentally, should the Republican Party take control of the house after the mid term elections, what would happen to the January 6th Committee proceedings, and indeed all the other federal investigations into his antics - will they just be shut down, any reports just ignored and left to gather dust? 

 

Trump must be banking on a Republican house majority whitewashing his various shenanigans.

Indeed. If they don't find something to indict him on before the election that chance may just vanish.

That's why I'm surprised they are so reluctant to do so, but perhaps they are keeping it on hold till just before the election.

22 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

wished she would just go away. Trump won't be running again.

Agree. He's probably more fulfilled as a "kingmaker" from the sidelines.

Don't agree with her policies but she has more balls than the entire republican house and senate bunch of sniveling  "men" wimps who hide under their chairs and are terrified to cross the boss.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Agree. He's probably more fulfilled as a "kingmaker" from the sidelines.

He will not run and kingmaker is a myth. Just look at the Georgia voters rejection of Trump's endorsed candidates. 3 top Repiblican officials who rebuffed the former presidfent's efforts to overturn the 2020 election coasted to victory over Trump backed rivals. There is fast dissipating influence for Trump in the party and country. 

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed. If they don't find something to indict him on before the election that chance may just vanish.

That's why I'm surprised they are so reluctant to do so, but perhaps they are keeping it on hold till just before the election.

You keep on banging that drum about the Justice Dept being reluctant to indict him. Your idea of how the justice system in the USA works must come from TV shows. It bears very little relation to reality. The Dept is now being run by serious by-the-book investigators.  That means that they are being careful and cautious in the event that their investigations result in an indictment.Let's leave the errors and the amateurism to Trump's legal team. Which clearly includes Judge Cannon.

On 9/26/2022 at 11:11 AM, EVENKEEL said:

wished she would just go away. Trump won't be running again.

Trumpism dominates the republican party 

It's a neo fascist white nationalist authoritarian movement that asserts there is no objective truth or reality so traditional political debate on policies becomes impossible. If it triumphs constitutional American democracy is over. A core value of Trumpism is if the Trumpist candidate doesn't win by old fashioned vote counting, the actual result is always illegitimate and if it is possible to reverse the legal result by force either violent or by way of Trumpists being in control of the election processes, they will try to seize it. A classic dark game of autocrats from the right or left. This Trumpist anti democracy rot has infected all levels of American politics from school boards to presidents.

Trump not running again unfortunately does not kill Trumpism.

DeSantis who would be favored as the republican presidential nominee if Trump doesn't run is trying to be Trumpier than Trump.

 

 

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Who cares? She's gone.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Trumpism dominates the republican party 

It's a neo fascist white nationalist authoritarian movement that asserts there is no objective truth or reality so traditional political debate on policies becomes impossible. If it triumphs constitutional American democracy is over. A core value of Trumpism is if the Trumpist candidate doesn't win by old fashioned vote counting, the actual result is always illegitimate and if it is possible to reverse the legal result by force either violent or by way of Trumpists being in control of the election processes, they will try to seize it. A classic dark game of autocrats from the right or left. This Trumpist anti democracy rot has infected all levels of American politics from school boards to presidents.

Trump not running again unfortunately does not kill Trumpism.

DeSantis who would be favored as the republican presidential nominee if Trump doesn't run is trying to be Trumpier than Trump.

 

 

Stick with Trump then, if he's less Trumpier than DeSantis. 

57 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Stick with Trump then, if he's less Trumpier than DeSantis. 

Politically he would be easier to beat as so much baggage with his criminality 

Strictly IMO, I don't think DeSantis is going to make the cut in the primaries.  He just doesn't have much in the way of personality nor gravitas, same as Rubio and Rick Scott.

Youngkin might be the shooting star for 2024.  After the Republican reformation Liz could be prime contender, but that wouldn't be until 2028 or 2032.

 

 

18 hours ago, placeholder said:

You keep on banging that drum about the Justice Dept being reluctant to indict him. Your idea of how the justice system in the USA works must come from TV shows. It bears very little relation to reality. The Dept is now being run by serious by-the-book investigators.  That means that they are being careful and cautious in the event that their investigations result in an indictment.Let's leave the errors and the amateurism to Trump's legal team. Which clearly includes Judge Cannon.

and if the GOP takes the house and the "investigations" go away, don't come back on here saying they should have made more haste to indict him.

Actually, I'm leaning towards an indictment at a more politically opportune time.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and if the GOP takes the house and the "investigations" go away, don't come back on here saying they should have made more haste to indict him.

Actually, I'm leaning towards an indictment at a more politically opportune time.

And if the GOP takes the house and the investigations don't go away, you can come back and say whatever you like.

4 hours ago, bendejo said:

Strictly IMO, I don't think DeSantis is going to make the cut in the primaries.  He just doesn't have much in the way of personality nor gravitas, same as Rubio and Rick Scott.

Youngkin might be the shooting star for 2024.  After the Republican reformation Liz could be prime contender, but that wouldn't be until 2028 or 2032.

 

 

Now she Liz? She's a lowliife who was complicit in promoting the Iraq war and still defends it. And that's only one of a multitude of her sins.

She's GOP.

When caught transgressing, Democrats fall on their swords.  GOP double down and blow it off with lame, obvious excuses.

The sins of the father will not be held to light until he's in the ground, and she might be 80 when that happens.

 

 

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