universal health coverage by 2030?

[save the frogs]

I stumbled on the World Economic Forum web site ...

I came across this article ...

2030 is still a long time away ...

Also I am not exactly sure what it means.

But one way I am interpreting this is that it COULD MEAN that expats in Thailand and anywhere in the world will no longer need medical insurance because of the phrasing "no matter the location and time". 

 

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/12/universal-health-coverage-health-for-all/

Will universal health coverage deliver health for all by 2030?

Henceforth, it is imperative to assert here that universal health coverage remains the only means of ensuring healthcare for all citizens of the world, no matter the location and time. 

[nigelforbes]

It is a goal, an objective, it also has zero chance of being achieved, think about it. From their web site, your link:
 

"On the issue of regulation, a 33% commitment was observed, relatively high among all countries. Many of the reviewed countries, constituting 70%, had integrated universal health coverage as their goal in their national health policy planning; however, a limited number of these countries, constituting 11%, translated these institutional commitments into clear-cut universal health coverage implementable roadmaps. A quarter had integrated at least one or two universal health coverage pillars as goals in their national health policies. The evidence also suggests that most of these countries did not operationalise their commitments into action plans or poorly communicated those resolves. Where applicable, the focus of implementation was on disease-specific programmes, rather than having established systems that provided comprehensive healthcare".

[save the frogs]

ok. you may be right.

[stoner]

its cute that we have to pay for healthcare. smh.

[save the frogs]

cute? ha ha.

[HuskerDo2]

Just now, stoner said:

its cute that we have to pay for healthcare. smh.

Of course you have to pay. Medical research costs a lot of money. So does manufacturing the medicines. Also there are huge costs to train and retain doctors and nurses. Let's make everything free right? Go to any restaurant and eat all you want and just walk out. Need a pair of shoes? Stop by the local mall and grab a pair. 

 

It's "cute" that you make such a silly comment. 

[save the frogs]

19 minutes ago, HuskerDo2 said:

Let's make everything free right?

not shoes. 

but essential services may become increasingly cheap(er) and maybe even free.

maybe public transit? childcare?

money comes from tax reforms i guess. i ain't no economist.

[HuskerDo2]

Just now, save the frogs said:

not shoes. 

but essential services may become increasingly cheap(er) and maybe even free.

maybe public transit? childcare?

money comes from tax reforms i guess. i ain't no economist.

"but essential services may become increasingly cheap(er) and maybe even free.".... will never happen.

 

"i ain't no economist".... no, you are a dreamer and this dream will never come true.

[save the frogs]

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/free-public-transit

The Case for Making Public Transit Free Everywhere

 

From Spain to Germany and Luxembourg to Estonia, more and more countries are experimenting with fare-free transportation.

[nigelforbes]

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/free-public-transit

The Case for Making Public Transit Free Everywhere

 

From Spain to Germany and Luxembourg to Estonia, more and more countries are experimenting with fare-free transportation.

Those initiatives are aimed at global warming and the reduction in fossil fuel consumption. It's been proven they are effective in that respect but they have nothing to do with the ideals that you are referring to. 

[300sd]

If the WEF is spouting it, then it is not what us lowly peons want. They know what's good for us huh!

[stoner]

2 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

Of course you have to pay. Medical research costs a lot of money. So does manufacturing the medicines. Also there are huge costs to train and retain doctors and nurses. Let's make everything free right? Go to any restaurant and eat all you want and just walk out. Need a pair of shoes? Stop by the local mall and grab a pair. 

 

It's "cute" that you make such a silly comment. 

i see you are of the dinosaur mentality. our system is broken you want to speak on that first before flying off ? 

[nigelforbes]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

i see you are of the dinosaur mentality. our system is broken you want to speak on that first before flying off ? 

The system is broken because not enough people under age 35 are working in paying jobs and making contributions into the SSc/NI systems. This is because their boomer era parents made lots of money and their children are now able to lead privelleged unemployed lives, living off their inheritance, travelling in Thailand and similar places. So, not only did boomers give their kids real music, they also gave them the internet and lots of money on which to live.

 

What is the solution you ask? Well, mostly it involves all the under age 35 crowd getting meaningful jobs, paying tax and SSc/NI so that big pharma can employ them as researchers and scientists and create new drugs that will prolong their lives. Simples, next.

 

 

[stoner]

1 minute ago, nigelforbes said:

The system is broken because not enough people under age 35 are working in paying jobs and making contributions into the SSc/NI systems. This is because their boomer era parents made lots of money and their children are now able to lead privelleged unemployed lives, living off their inheritance, travelling in Thailand and similar places. So, not only did boomers give their kids real music, they also gave them the internet and lots of money on which to live.

 

What is the solution you ask? Well, mostly it involves all the under age 35 crowd getting meaningful jobs, paying tax and SSc/NI so that big pharma can employ them as researchers and scientists and create new drugs that will prolong their lives. Simples, next.

 

 

that wraps that up i guess. dinosaur in the wild confirmed. while you at it anything else you want to blame on under 35s ? 

 

 

[nigelforbes]

1 minute ago, stoner said:

that wraps that up i guess. dinosaur in the wild confirmed. while you at it anything else you want to blame on under 35s ? 

 

 

Man buns, elephant pants, er let me see, veganism, lack of creativity when it comes to music, is that enough for now.

[stoner]

2 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

Man buns, elephant pants, er let me see, veganism, lack of creativity when it comes to music, is that enough for now.

must be hard caring that chip so long. lack of creativity in music really ? quite the silly statement.  

 

next you will ramble on about the good old days and walking to school etc.......

[nigelforbes]

Just now, stoner said:

must be hard caring that chip so long. lack of creativity in music really ? quite the silly statement.  

 

next you will ramble on about the good old days and walking to school etc.......

I'll take that as a play on words, Ramble On is indeed an excellent song.

 

 

[nigelforbes]

28 minutes ago, stoner said:

that wraps that up i guess. dinosaur in the wild confirmed. while you at it anything else you want to blame on under 35s ? 

 

 

I'm being semi jocular on this point but it's worth pointing out that both the SSc and NI systems are ponzi schemes that rely on subsequent generations to contribute even greater amounts. There's no mystery or secret about this, an ageing population, low birth rates and lower than expected rates of employment have contributed to the reasons why the system of health care is broken.

[HuskerDo2]

13 hours ago, stoner said:

i see you are of the dinosaur mentality. our system is broken you want to speak on that first before flying off ? 

I'm not sure what you mean by dinosaur mentality. Maybe because you think I'm older than you. Either way I don't give a flip. Yes, the system is broken but until you and your millennial know-it-alls have a fix for it, be respectful of other people opinions? It's a simple request. If you listen to the opinions of others you might learn something. Then again, maybe not.

[stoner]

6 hours ago, HuskerDo2 said:

be respectful of other people opinions?

so because someone may be older that automatically requires respect is given ? give me a break.

 

also im not a millennial know it all. i would be considered generation x. the forgotten generation. you know the ones who have taken care of themselves and never complained. the ones who will try to fix the mistakes made by your generation. 

 

your comment also kind of makes my point. 

[HuskerDo2]

Just now, stoner said:

so because someone may be older that automatically requires respect is given ? give me a break.

 

also im not a millennial know it all. i would be considered generation x. the forgotten generation. you know the ones who have taken care of themselves and never complained. the ones who will try to fix the mistakes made by your generation. 

 

your comment also kind of makes my point. 

"the forgotten generation.".... and your comment kind of makes my point. They are forgotten for good reasons.

[stoner]

1 minute ago, HuskerDo2 said:

"the forgotten generation.".... and your comment kind of makes my point.

its not my saying...have a read you may learn something new. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesagencycouncil/2018/11/14/the-forgotten-generation-lets-talk-about-generation-x/?sh=726a010b76d5

 

https://www.ki.com/insights/blog/generation-x-the-forgotten-generation/

 

 

[HuskerDo2]

Just now, stoner said:

its not my saying...have a read you may learn something new. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesagencycouncil/2018/11/14/the-forgotten-generation-lets-talk-about-generation-x/?sh=726a010b76d5

 

https://www.ki.com/insights/blog/generation-x-the-forgotten-generation/

 

 

Enjoy your day. I've tired of trying to communicate with a rock.

[stoner]

6 minutes ago, HuskerDo2 said:

"the forgotten generation.".... and your comment kind of makes my point. They are forgotten for good reasons.

pretty much every comment you make needs to include a little jib eh. fill me in on these good reasons please i would love to hear about some of them.

[nigelforbes]

9 minutes ago, stoner said:

so because someone may be older that automatically requires respect is given ? give me a break.

 

also im not a millennial know it all. i would be considered generation x. the forgotten generation. you know the ones who have taken care of themselves and never complained. the ones who will try to fix the mistakes made by your generation. 

 

your comment also kind of makes my point. 

Aren't you leaving things rather late, shouldn't you get a move on and start doing something?

[save the frogs]

11 minutes ago, stoner said:

so because someone may be older that automatically requires respect is given ?

no it doesnt.

[HuskerDo2]

"so because someone may be older that automatically requires respect is given ?"..... in Asia the answer is YES.

 

However, I never said how old I am. Making assumptions isn't good.

 

You speak like a know-it-all farang that wants to dictate how everyone thinks, even in Asia.

 

Best of luck to you in life. You have already shown you will fail at it. 

[stoner]

22 minutes ago, nigelforbes said:

Aren't you leaving things rather late, shouldn't you get a move on and start doing something?

i am.

[stoner]

11 minutes ago, HuskerDo2 said:

You have already shown you will fail at it. 

just cant resist can you.

 

to set the record straight if things continue along my plan i will be a millionaire in less than 3 years.

then ill start to build for long term future to make some real changes and give help where needed. 

 

 

[save the frogs]

36 minutes ago, stoner said:

the ones who will try to fix the mistakes made by your generation. 

this generational war is silly.

the powers that be pretty much set the agenda.

and we all need to follow it to survive in society.