The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) Thai policeman friend has lost his wedding savings of 950,000 baht. Money transferred from his <bank name redacted - please PM poster> Bank account to a bank account in Cambodia. Thai police unable to proceed. <bank name redacted - please PM poster> Bank say nothing can be done. Edited March 11, 2023 by Crossy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Very sad, but if the Bank say nothing can be done, and the Thai police are unable to proceed (although you don’t say why) I don’t know why you think anyone on this forum can help. I suggest he engages the services of a lawyer that specialises in fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 If police can't help one of their own, what's the hope for the rest of the population... As for posting bank name... twice... beware Thailand's strict defamation laws. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Very sad, but if the Bank say nothing can be done, and the Thai police are unable to proceed (although you don’t say why) I don’t know why you think anyone on this forum can help. I suggest he engages the services of a lawyer that specialises in fraud. I posted as a warning to others and because I feel sorry for the guy who is engaged to a nurse at our local hospital and daughter of a friend of my Mrs. As Cambodia is outside RTP's jurisdiction I assume that is the reason. My experience albeit with UK banks is that the onus is on the customer to prove that they didn't make the transfer. Going to a solicitor would result in a huge bill with no guarantee of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, tomazbodner said: If police can't help one of their own, what's the hope for the rest of the population... As for posting bank name... twice... beware Thailand's strict defamation laws. Unacceptable is the word. My Mrs says she's moved her money from her SCB to her Bangkok Bank account. I say withdraw it and keep it under the mattress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchpotato Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Fugitive said: I posted as a warning to others and because I feel sorry for the guy who is engaged to a nurse at our local hospital and daughter of a friend of my Mrs. As Cambodia is outside RTP's jurisdiction I assume that is the reason. My experience albeit with UK banks is that the onus is on the customer to prove that they didn't make the transfer. Going to a solicitor would result in a huge bill with no guarantee of success. Bit of a useless post really. Who are you trying to warn. These things can't be predicted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Fugitive said: I posted as a warning to others and because I feel sorry for the guy who is engaged to a nurse at our local hospital and daughter of a friend of my Mrs. As Cambodia is outside RTP's jurisdiction I assume that is the reason. My experience albeit with UK banks is that the onus is on the customer to prove that they didn't make the transfer. Going to a solicitor would result in a huge bill with no guarantee of success. It would of course be interesting to know how the account was accessed to transfer out the funds. I have several accounts but those for which I have mobile apps, I only transfer any money into them when bills need to be paid, else there's really nothing in them. The accounts that do have money in, require OTP to login, add any additional accounts, make any transfers, account changes, and have a daily and transaction limits set. I have no mobile app for those. I was surprised when dealing with one of the banks (for unrelated issue) a few weeks back, when I got asked just before the end of the call, unexpectedly, whether I have requested my ATM card PIN change a few weeks ago. I've never used that ATM card. I now make sure that account has less than 100 baht in it, except when making transfer, which is limited to funds in and out within 3-5 minutes. Sadly, many people have no awareness of threats they are exposed to, especially on outdated mobile phones with side loaded applications, and computers accessing questionable websites, loaded with cracked applications installed from torrents. With convenience demanded by users, there's a limit to what banks can do to. But most people think this can't happen to them, until it does. Edited March 11, 2023 by tomazbodner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Celsius Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 Banking here is very scary here, I don't care that some of you have "great confidence in Thai banks." My wife finally sold her condo yesterday and after all the paperwork at the land office she was issued a cashiers check from a big bank. When she went to deposit it (at the same bank) she was told too bad the system won't allow it. After spending 2 hours at the branch and contacting the person who issued a check, she was finally "allowed" to deposit it. Imagine this happening to a rose colored glasses Farang. He wouldn't even know where to start. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, couchpotato said: Bit of a useless post really. Who are you trying to warn. These things can't be predicted. Accept that these things happen and don't worry about it? 950,000 baht is a huge amount to a Thai. The problem is that you can't prove something that you didn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Yeah ^^^. Dicey putting the name of the bank so I've removed it. I'm sure our OP will enlighten anyone who asks via PM. How was the transfer initiated? That must surely be the starting point, maybe try further up the bank food-chain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Crossy said: Yeah ^^^. Dicey putting the name of the bank so I've removed it. I'm sure our OP will enlighten anyone who asks via PM. How was the transfer initiated? That must surely be the starting point, maybe try further up the bank food-chain? Thanks for that Crossy! I don't know how the transfer was made. I would hope that RTP have some sort of 'federation' that provides advice and legal assistance free of charge to their officers? Last year I was 'hacked'. Unsure whether it was via my mobile or laptop. Goods were ordered, paid for using my credit card saved in an online shopping site and delivered to an address in Moldova. Also, someone telephoned my UK bank and set up a voice password. To do that they must have known my Customer Number and Password. I only knew because my bank sent an email asking if I'd set up the voice password. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, The Fugitive said: Thai policeman friend has lost his wedding savings of 950,000 baht. Money transferred from his <bank Has he asked you for a loan yet. On the upside actually getting married in Thailand is Free., But most seem to want a big big party to impress all and sundery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, tomazbodner said: As for posting bank name... twice... beware Thailand's strict defamation laws. Notwithstanding that the post has been edited, mentioning nothing more than the name of the bank, which was not accused of any wrongdoing, was not defamation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, brianthainess said: Has he asked you for a loan yet. On the upside actually getting married in Thailand is Free., But most seem to want a big big party to impress all and sundery. Not yet! It did cross my mind that the money could have been lost in gambling or on one of those investment scams e.g. 'double your money in XXXX amount of time'. We visited his fiancee's house and she and her Mum were most upset. Which proves nothing of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Fugitive said: We visited his fiancee's house and she and her Mum were most upset. Which proves nothing of course. Well of course they would be upset. Loss of face, no big party, to impress and no Sin Sod Edited March 11, 2023 by brianthainess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 You hear similar stories on a daily basis and it's gut wrenching to see how innocent people falls to scams and heartless crimeless and that in most case nothing much can be done and that is why we all need to be very vigil with what is going around with our monies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 A misleading scaremongering post has been removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, brianthainess said: Well of course they would be upset. Loss of face, no big party, to impress and no Sin Sod in case anybody is confused about Sin Sod it's an amount of money paid to the mother by the groom. for her daughter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, The Fugitive said: My experience albeit with UK banks is that the onus is on the customer to prove that they didn't make the transfer. How was the transfer done? Did anybody go to the bank and fill out some form? Or online on the WWW? Or with a banking app? Money is not just transferred from one account to another, especially an account in another country, without someone doing something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adumbration Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 Care factor zero. Anything to do with the RTP here is abhorent to me. Where did a plod on 15K a month get 950K? That is a retorical question by the way. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: How was the transfer done? Did anybody go to the bank and fill out some form? Or online on the WWW? Or with a banking app? Money is not just transferred from one account to another, especially an account in another country, without someone doing something. Agreed. I don't know by what method. You're thinking that if in a bank branch there would be CCTV? Like most of us I'm told he has many apps on his 'phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, The Fugitive said: lost his wedding savings Well he likely dodged a bullet, marriage was not supposed to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 what about cambodian consulate/trade delegation in bangkok asking for help? or travelling to phnom penh, visiting that bank, a national body regulating banks, also asking thai consulate? also tracing address of account owner, visiting him with help of local authorities? That might be a bogus account, but transfer can be traced to the end account 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted March 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2023 10 hours ago, The Fugitive said: Unacceptable is the word. My Mrs says she's moved her money from her SCB to her Bangkok Bank account. I say withdraw it and keep it under the mattress! The world banks are on the verge of collapse, like in 2008. Bitcoin is the only way to go 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 hours ago, internationalism said: what about cambodian consulate/trade delegation in bangkok asking for help? or travelling to phnom penh, visiting that bank, a national body regulating banks, also asking thai consulate? also tracing address of account owner, visiting him with help of local authorities? That might be a bogus account, but transfer can be traced to the end account Good suggestions thank you. I'll mention these options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 cambodia is a hub of scammers ...see recent tv prog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CartagenaWarlock Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 hours ago, The Fugitive said: Thai policeman friend has lost his wedding savings of 950,000 baht. Money transferred from his <bank name redacted - please PM poster> Bank account to a bank account in Cambodia. Thai police unable to proceed. <bank name redacted - please PM poster> Bank say nothing can be done. What is the point of posting this in this forum? When Thai police man has lost, how do you think a farang can him? Are you out of your mind due to smoking too much weed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: The world banks are on the verge of collapse, like in 2008. Bitcoin is the only way to go Yeah I just bought a new mattress as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said: cambodia is a hub of scammers ...see recent tv prog Thanks for that. Could be the case that police know who and where they are but the scammers can afford better I.T. so they can't be 'got at'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said: What is the point of posting this in this forum? When Thai police man has lost, how do you think a farang can him? Are you out of your mind due to smoking too much weed? Have you ever been scammed on-line or hacked? Maybe had your email address hijacked for bulk spamming purposes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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