HKexpat Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 If I have overseas rental income but I do not bring the income into Thailand but instead leave it in my home country to accumulate and pay tax there. Do I then still need to file a tax return to declare overseas rental income in Thailand assuming I don’t intend to bring the income here in the tax year it was earned? I have no other income source in Thailand aside from a small amount of local bank interest. Can I then opt not to file a tax return even though I have a tax ID in Thailand? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombie nights Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) No need file Thai tax return. Edited March 13, 2023 by zombie nights 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKexpat Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, zombie nights said: No need file Thai tax return. Thank you for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak sa_ngop Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 I have just received a letter from the Tax people with forms to fill in.....all in Thai of course. My name and address is on the front page. Lots of boxes to be filled in. Is there a legal obligation to return these forms filled in if one does not have an income in Thailand (apart from some small bank interest payments)? In the case of the UK if you have income below the taxable income level there is no need to make a tax return, except in the case when the tax office actually sends you the forms to fill in. Can anybody explain the true situation? Saying 'No need to file Tax return' is not very helpful if one is actually sent the forms with ones name to fill in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungbing Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 I have never hears of a farang receiving a tax form How did you come to their attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, lungbing said: I have never hears of a farang receiving a tax form How did you come to their attention? Some people work. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
userabcd Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, rak sa_ngop said: I have just received a letter from the Tax people with forms to fill in.....all in Thai of course. My name and address is on the front page. Lots of boxes to be filled in. Is there a legal obligation to return these forms filled in if one does not have an income in Thailand (apart from some small bank interest payments)? In the case of the UK if you have income below the taxable income level there is no need to make a tax return, except in the case when the tax office actually sends you the forms to fill in. Can anybody explain the true situation? Saying 'No need to file Tax return' is not very helpful if one is actually sent the forms with ones name to fill in. Do you meet the following criteria? WHO HAS TO FILE ภ.ง.ด.90? The following persons/entities are subject to personal income tax in Thailand: 1. An individual 2. A non-registered ordinary partnership 3. A non-juristic body of persons/group of persons 4. A deceased 5. An undivided estate 6. A Community Enterprise group of persons which is a non-registered ordinary partnership or a non- juristic body of persons registered under Community Enterprise Promotion Act B.E.2548 Additionally, taxpayers can be categorized as “residents of Thailand” and “non-residents of Thailand” for tax purposes as follows: 1. Residents of Thailand If you stay in Thailand for the total of at least 180 days in the tax year, you are considered a “resident of Thailand” for tax purposes. You have to file a return on the income that you received if you meet one of the following conditions: (1) Your total income exceeded 60,000 baht in the tax year. (2) You were married and your income combined with that of your spouse exceeded 120,000 baht in the tax year. (3) You are a Community Enterprise, which is a non-registered ordinary partnership or a non-juristic body of persons registered and received a Certificate of Registration from the Department of Agricultural Extension, with the total income exceeding 1,800,000 baht in the tax year, or with the total income exceeding 60,000 baht in the tax year, but not more than 1,800,000 baht with an exemption from income tax under rules and conditions prescribed by the Director-General. 2. Non-residents of Thailand If you stayed in Thailand for less than 180 days in the tax year, you were a non-resident of Thailand for tax purposes. If you derived any income which is subject to Thai personal income tax and you meet the conditions stated in 1., you are required to file this form. No. 3 item 6. If you receive one or more of the following incomes, specify the type of incomes you received and enter the sum on line “Others”. ▪ bonus you received as a shareholder or partner of a company or juristic partnership ▪ a decrease of capital holdings in a company or juristic partnership for the amount not exceeding profits and reserves ▪ an increase of capital holdings in a company or juristic partnership for the amount determined from profits and reserves ▪ a benefit for the amount which exceeds capital received from amalgamation, acquisition or dissolution of a company or juristic partnership ▪ gains received from transfer of partnership holdings investment units or shares, debentures, bonds, or bills or debt instruments issued by a company or juristic partnership or by any other juristic person ▪ Share of profits or dividends, after withholding tax, paid out under the law governing petroleum income tax ▪ Share of profits or other similar benefits received from holding or possessing digital tokens Edited March 20, 2023 by userabcd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, userabcd said: WHO HAS TO FILE ภ.ง.ด.90? The following persons/entities are subject to personal income tax in Thailand: 1. An individual A bit "all embracing" is it not? Are we not all "individuals"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
userabcd Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Personal Income Tax (PIT) Personal Income Tax (PIT) is a direct tax levied on income of a person. A person means an individual, an ordinary partnership, a non-juristic body of person and an undivided estate. In general, a person liable to PIT has to compute his tax liability, file tax return and pay tax, if any, accordingly on a calendar year basis. 1.Taxable Person Taxpayers are classified into “resident” and “non-resident”. “Resident” means any person residing in Thailand for a period or periods aggregating more than 180 days in any tax (calendar) year. A resident of Thailand is liable to pay tax on income from sources in Thailand as well as on the portion of income from foreign sources that is brought into Thailand. A non-resident is, however, subject to tax only on income from sources in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelforbes Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, lungbing said: I have never hears of a farang receiving a tax form How did you come to their attention? If you have ever reclaimed tax paid on savings interest, you will have filed a tax return. Once you've filed, they send the forms every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 11 hours ago, nigelforbes said: If you have ever reclaimed tax paid on savings interest, you will have filed a tax return. Once you've filed, they send the forms every year. I have reclaimed withholding tax, successfully, in the past and never received any annual forms! I have not claimed for the last few years as the interest/tax is so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelforbes Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: I have reclaimed withholding tax, successfully, in the past and never received any annual forms! I have not claimed for the last few years as the interest/tax is so low. I haven't reclaimed tax on bank interest for a few years but I continue to recieve the tax forms from the Revenue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persimmon Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 In " Who has to file " - no. 4 " A deceased " ....that could be difficult to enforce ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 9:27 AM, rak sa_ngop said: I have just received a letter from the Tax people with forms to fill in.....all in Thai of course. My name and address is on the front page. Lots of boxes to be filled in. Is there a legal obligation to return these forms filled in if one does not have an income in Thailand (apart from some small bank interest payments)? In the case of the UK if you have income below the taxable income level there is no need to make a tax return, except in the case when the tax office actually sends you the forms to fill in. Can anybody explain the true situation? Saying 'No need to file Tax return' is not very helpful if one is actually sent the forms with ones name to fill in. I used to receive these forms when I was reclaiming tax on interest as others have said. When I queried it a few years ago I was told I could just ignore them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 7:29 PM, lungbing said: I have never hears of a farang receiving a tax form How did you come to their attention? People who work here get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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