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No rooster, it's not OK.

I've seen numerous examples of moderators scolding posters about saying exactly, verbatim, what you did in your first sentence.

Yeah, petty I know, but there you have it. I'm never quite understand the negative nature of such a peccadillo (word chosen specifically for your delight).

I thought I would give him another go. I wish I didn't and won't bother again. Both boring and mind boggling.

It was a good tip.

I would just add that when trying to make that sound for the first time, to slow down your speech so that you can then isolate the ng sound more easily.

Then later, change the English words to use different vowels with the ng sound: nga, ngi, ngo, etc.  

He forgot ngoo, a snake.

 

A Ngo is also a rambutan, same word as idiot.

Comes across as a very nice bloke, just shows how deceptive text can sometimes be in giving the wrong impression. Mrs is a Thai language teacher, not so many students these days, free lessons on YT don't help.

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He forgot ngoo, a snake.

 

A Ngo is also a rambutan, same word as idiot.

1. No, he didn't. He didn't have it on his card but he mentioned it at 1m20s. 

2. No, it isn't. It's a different word with different spelling: different vowel, different vowel length and a different tone. The only thing that is the same is the consonant ngo ngoo. 

28 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

A Ngo is also a rambutan, same word as idiot.

The words for rambutan and idiot are nothing alike. 

 

Different tones, different vowels, different vowel lengths. 

 

The danger transliteration. 

 

It's like in English, maybe:

 

Cough and Rough look like the same vowel sound but one is 'off' and one is 'uff'.

 

In fact, you can pronounce 'ough' 9 ways. 

 

You saying ngo is like ngaw is like a Thai saying 

 

A ruff, duff-faced pluffman strode thruff the streets of Scarbruff after falling in a sluff, he cuffed and hiccuffed. 

 

 

 

A rough, dough-faced, thoughtful ploughman strode through the streets of Scarborough; after falling into a slough, he coughed and hiccoughed.

 

Edited March 27, 20233 yr by Neeranam

I used to teach people to  say 'song ooo' like you taught with  'coming Ern'

 

'song oo' then take away 'so', then you have ngoo, snake.

Well done Rooster... wish I had you teaching me when I lived there.  Thanks. 

My excuse is 50% hearing loss.  I cannot make out the tones.  I took one year of Spanish.  I am a dunce when it comes to languages.  If I could 'see' the tones perhaps I'd do better.

The tones don't make any difference.  It is the IQ of the listener.  If you talk a slum dweller, they won't understand a word.  If you talk to a student from Mahidol, they will understand you perfectly in Thai.

 

Me:  Ao cappuccino ron.

Slum person:  Alai na?

Me:  Ao cappuccino ron.

Slum person:  Alai na?

Me:  Ao gaffae ron.

Slum person:  Alai na?

 

Me:  Ao cappuccino ron.

Cafe Amazon:  Sure do you want to have it here or take away?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pom Loong tan, or I am lost, I have used in the past, and well as ngong.

 When I seen a staggering drunk European tourist one time I said farang ngoo, or stupid farang.

  Anyway I quit learning Thai when my Thai wife kept correcting me all the time when

I tried to speak Thai language. I am so thankful that so many of my Thai relatives and friends

speak English, much easier for this old senior. I still like to eat kanoom croc, and roti for my desserts.

Great for my diet.

Cheers.