Social Media Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 China’s military has been on a surge of activity around Taiwan this week, sending dozens of warplanes past the median line of the Taiwan Strait and into the key regions of the island’s air defense identification zone (ADIZ). The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) activity has a range of implications, none of them positive for Taiwan or cross-strait stability, analysts say. According to figures from Taiwan’s Defense Ministry, 38 PLA aircraft were detected around the island in the 24 hours ending at 6 a.m. local time on Wednesday, 33 in the same period Thursday and 30 during the same period Friday. Over those 72 hours, 73 PLA aircraft either crossed the strait’s median line – an informal demarcation point that Beijing does not recognize but until recently largely respected – or entered the southeastern or southwestern parts of the island’s ADIZ. China’s ruling Communist Party claims the self-governing democracy of Taiwan as its territory despite never having controlled it, and has spent decades trying to isolate it diplomatically. Beijing has not ruled out using force to take control of the island. FULL ARTICLE 2
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 15, 2023 If China tries to take Taiwan like it did with Hong Kong then the mire will truly hit the fan 1 1 2
wombat Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 and the sabre rattling continues... meanwhile... China owns Taiwans infrastructure by proxy and can shut it down in hours. couple that with hypersonic missiles making naval warfare obsolete and there wont be any red white and blue fist rising from the ocean to save Taiwan when it happens
wombat Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: If China tries to take Taiwan like it did with Hong Kong then the mire will truly hit the fan the rules changed once they got it back and nothing happened...why would it be any different with Taiwan?
Popular Post orchidfan Posted July 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, hotchilli said: If China tries to take Taiwan like it did with Hong Kong then the mire will truly hit the fan I think you need to study the history of Hong Kong and especially the lease which was granted to Britain which expired in 1997. HK was handed back ,by Agreement, peacefully and graciously in 1997. As was Macau... Totally different scenarios to Taiwan. I lived and worked in HK for 20 years and still retain permanent Residence status here (I'm currently in HK as I write). 1 3
vandeventer Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 Biden keeps saying the USA will defend Taiwan but will he? He might not have enough Ammonsian left with most going to Ukraine.
Eleftheros Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 At least these incursions allow Taiwan's air defenses to fine-tune their systems. If China were to be dumb enough to invade, it would be the complete opposite of a surprise attack. 1
Popular Post Burma Bill Posted July 15, 2023 Popular Post Posted July 15, 2023 4 hours ago, hotchilli said: If China tries to take Taiwan like it did with Hong Kong then the mire will truly hit the fan With the greatest respect, the return of Hong Kong to China by the UK went very smoothly. Prince Charles and Governor Chris Patten were the senior UK Representatives. It was what happened after the PRC got control that caused all the grief with broken promises etc. Personally I do not trust the Chinese and, like what is happening in Thailand with boycotting businesses, I never knowingly buy Chinese products, unless made in Taiwan, like my ACER computer. Photo of handover ceremony in 1997. 2 2
Tug Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, vandeventer said: Biden keeps saying the USA will defend Taiwan but will he? He might not have enough Ammonsian left with most going to Ukraine. I agree the USA needs to ramp up production on ammo with this caveat any war to defend Taiwan will be more of an air / naval type,if the Chinese get ashore in numbers it will be more of a war against supply lines very different types of weapons hopefully it won’t happen 1
Eleftheros Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Burma Bill said: With the greatest respect, the return of Hong Kong to China by the UK went very smoothly With the greatest respect, it went very smoothly because it was a shabby sellout. Hong Kong's rights under the Basic Law were guaranteed to remain until 2047 at the earliest. Halfway there, those rights have been utterly shredded, as the British authorities knew all along would happen. 2
orchidfan Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Eleftheros said: With the greatest respect, it went very smoothly because it was a shabby sellout. Hong Kong's rights under the Basic Law were guaranteed to remain until 2047 at the earliest. Halfway there, those rights have been utterly shredded, as the British authorities knew all along would happen. With the greatest respect. Were you li Inc in Hong Kong during this period? It was not a "sellout"....their lease had run out, and I don't really think that they had much say in the matter! Although they tried to bargain for 50 year "good deal" for the local Hongkongers...it was probably never going to happen.. But Hong Kong and Macau (Macao) were always Chinese territories, but not so Taiwan.
orchidfan Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 # 2 minutes ago, orchidfan said: With the greatest respect. Were you li Inc in Hong Kong during this period? It was not a "sellout"....their lease had run out, and I don't really think that they had much say in the matter! Although they tried to bargain for 50 year "good deal" for the local Hongkongers...it was probably never going to happen.. But Hong Kong and Macau (Macao) were always Chinese territories, but not so Taiwan. #living in
novacova Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 The operation that china is conducting is to test the fortitude of the alliance and exploiting the blatant weakness of the US president. What most likely what there strategy is to create a skirmish scenario and blame a flared up conflict on Taiwan. Xi upmost imperative is to not look like a war monger to the masses, that would counteract all the BS he’s been decimating
heybruce Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 9 hours ago, vandeventer said: Biden keeps saying the USA will defend Taiwan but will he? He might not have enough Ammonsian left with most going to Ukraine. Your lack of faith in the US government and DoD is noted. The US has sent Ukraine as much support as it can without reducing its ability to keep other commitments around the world. 1
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