Chomper Higgot Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Slap and slap again: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/oct/20/byelections-live-tamworth-mid-bedfordshire-conservatives-tories-labour-liberal-democrats 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPGuy Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Biggest ever swing in By-Election? Nope. Not even close......... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_by-election_records 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 20, 2023 Author Share Posted October 20, 2023 5 hours ago, PPGuy said: Biggest ever swing in By-Election? Nope. Not even close......... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_by-election_records Thanks for the link: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 It's been quite clear for sometime there will be a change of the guard in parliament. Labour will likely win a majority. That will let them attempt to put their policies into action. The big hurdle is money. There isn't any. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungbing Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 That's usually the case when a Tory government takes over from a Labour one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I am now 66. In my time I have seen successive governments come and go. Both Tory and Labour . All I can assume from this is that if none of them had made a pigs ear of their time in office then they would have retained their office come election time. Either that or the expectations of the electorate are somewhat fickle and they just fancy a change in the belief that the other mob will in someway do more for them than those in the driving seat. And so , the never ending cycle of musical chairs continues. In the recent Thai elections, a breath of fresh air blew in and was quickly blown out. I can't help feeling that if the UK does not get a similar breath of fresh air then the countries downward slide will continue . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 10 hours ago, lungbing said: That's usually the case when a Tory government takes over from a Labour one. What 14 years ago? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stratocaster Posted October 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2023 The best two stories doing the rounds are the Tory supporters claiming it is just a by election blip. The other is that a faction within the far right Tory MP's are pushing for Nigel Farage to be the next leader of the party. Firstly he would need to find a safe Tory seat at the general election and those will be like hens teeth to find. Also the last time he stood for parliment he was beaten by a candidate dressed as a dolphin. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 hours ago, stratocaster said: The best two stories doing the rounds are the Tory supporters claiming it is just a by election blip. The other is that a faction within the far right Tory MP's are pushing for Nigel Farage to be the next leader of the party. Firstly he would need to find a safe Tory seat at the general election and those will be like hens teeth to find. Also the last time he stood for parliment he was beaten by a candidate dressed as a dolphin. Suella won't be happy. As I write she's probably looking for a reason to deport Nige. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 There is little doubt in my mind that Labour will win the next election, people will vote for them knowing illegal immigration will get much worse. Tony Blair and Jeremy Corbyn are waiting in the wing, these guys will decide policy, not Starmer IMHO The problems that people are tired of in the UK are being faced by most major European countries, cost of living, immigration, strikes, high interest rated and inflation 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Seppius said: There is little doubt in my mind that Labour will win the next election, people will vote for them knowing illegal immigration will get much worse. Tony Blair and Jeremy Corbyn are waiting in the wing, these guys will decide policy, not Starmer IMHO The problems that people are tired of in the UK are being faced by most major European countries, cost of living, immigration, strikes, high interest rated and inflation Hogwash. The main voter concerns are the cost of living crisis and the NHS crisis (which will get worse over the winter). The Tories have made ‘illegal’ immigration their central platform, together with promoting culture wars they talk of little else. Clearly the Tory focus on immigration failed, two absolute hammerings in these bye-elections ought to have driven that message home. Corbyn is not a member of the Labour Party Tony Blair is not coming back or deciding any policies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 Utterly tone deaf: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/20/rishi-sunak-considers-tax-cut-for-top-earners-after-byelection-defeats 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratocaster Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Be interesting to see the news from the UK on Wednesday, as the Tory party will reveal if 52 no confidence letters have been received in regards to Sunak. Rumor has it that 40 had been submitted before the last by-by elections. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, stratocaster said: Be interesting to see the news from the UK on Wednesday, as the Tory party will reveal if 52 no confidence letters have been received in regards to Sunak. Rumor has it that 40 had been submitted before the last by-by elections. Now that would be a laugh. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 2:22 PM, Chomper Higgot said: Hogwash. The main voter concerns are the cost of living crisis and the NHS crisis (which will get worse over the winter). The Tories have made ‘illegal’ immigration their central platform, together with promoting culture wars they talk of little else. Clearly the Tory focus on immigration failed, two absolute hammerings in these bye-elections ought to have driven that message home. Corbyn is not a member of the Labour Party Tony Blair is not coming back or deciding any policies. If you don't think Blair and Corbyn will not be heavily involved in a new Labour government, you will be in for a shock, immigration and left wing wokeness will be out of control, bad enough as it is 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Seppius said: If you don't think Blair and Corbyn will not be heavily involved in a new Labour government, you will be in for a shock, immigration and left wing wokeness will be out of control, bad enough as it is Let me know when you have some facts to discuss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Let me know when you have some facts to discuss. How is this for a start https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-tony-blair-advise-next-labour-government/ Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair wants to advise the next Labour government, he told the New Statesman in an interview excerpts of which were published Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Seppius said: How is this for a start https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-tony-blair-advise-next-labour-government/ Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair wants to advise the next Labour government, he told the New Statesman in an interview excerpts of which were published Thursday Tony Blair wants? Now how about Jeremy? I think voters are more worried about a return of Truss, or worse still any of the extremist loons lining up to take Sunak’s job at the first opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Seppius said: If you don't think Blair and Corbyn will not be heavily involved in a new Labour government, you will be in for a shock, immigration and left wing wokeness will be out of control, bad enough as it is Given that Corbyn will not be a Labour MP in the next Parliament, it's pretty certain that he will not be a member of any Labour government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RayC said: Given that Corbyn will not be a Labour MP in the next Parliament, it's pretty certain that he will not be a member of any Labour government. I never said he would be an MP, or in the government, neither will Blair, but won't stop either being highly influential in the running of the country Edited October 28, 2023 by Seppius missed an N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/28/2023 at 4:10 PM, Seppius said: I never said he would be an MP, or in the government, neither will Blair, but won't stop either being highly influential in the running of the country I can imagine that Blair may have some influence on Starmer if the latter becomes PM, as they appear to have similar views on many issues. Corbyn? Can you elaborate on how he might influence a PM Starmer. They don't appear to have much in common politically, and probably aren't drinking buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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