Why do so many people like K-Pop ?

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, MrPancake said:

 

My point was that it's not enough to divert me from the sh$tty nature of that type of music.

I don't blame them to be asian.

I've never been attracted to women with large mammaries ( HUGE turn off ), so I was ecstatic when I discovered Nana. A BSM is quite large enough.

[Sigmund]

Rather go and rinse my eyes at the Hooters bar...far more cleavage at a crashed price.

[jerrymahoney]

13 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

This question is easy! Sex & money sells.

 

This is why every Kpop group member goes through extensive plastic surgery, are forced to dress and act in certain ways, and most of them are not allowed to have boyfriends or girlfriends. 

Edited November 11, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[Captain Monday]

No idea. The sounds of Asian pop music seems to change little over past 35 years other than addition of hip hop influences.

 

A form of entertainment consisting entirely of celebrity models dancing.

 

Whatever singing is accomplished in a studio, not on stage. That is where the musicians are, in a studio. They could be 50 year old fat men nobody would be interested in watching.

 

 

 

[VinnieK]

Most ppl are dumbfux

Also... saturate the airwaves with anything, they will follow suit.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

32 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

A form of entertainment consisting entirely of celebrity models dancing.

Certainly more interesting to me visually than Mick Jagger, a man so ugly likely no woman in her right mind would bonk without having the greatest aphrodisiac known to human kind- lots and lots of lovely money.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 minutes ago, VinnieK said:

Most ppl are dumbfux

Also... saturate the airwaves with anything, they will follow suit.

 

That explains why rap is popular.

[MrPancake]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No wonder so many millions of western men have flocked to Thailand in the past 30 years.

 

So true.

Unfortunately.

[sirineou]

On 11/10/2023 at 3:25 PM, sirineou said:

 

As an amature mussisian I will tell you this, "There is no such thing as bad music!!

 

After someone commenting at my post, I re-read it and the flowing thought occured to me, 

Of course I would have to say that, since most people say that as an Amature musisian I make a prety good carpender. 

Of and Thank you for not saying it first

[Walker88]

I sort of get it.

 

That doesn't mean I like it.

 

This type of thing all began with Boy Bands in the US, like New Kids on the Block. It was aimed at Teeny Boppers who had access to Mom's purse.

 

Japan took it one step forward, using cutesy girls instead of boys. Pink Lady was a start. Decades later Morning Musume followed. J-Pop had two targets: Teeny Boppers and middle aged men who fantasized about schtupping schoolgirls. The music was all flash...the girls made to be sexually stimulating, their voices corrected in the studio to something less than cat-in-heat screams, and a fancy technical production.

 

Korea copied Japan and went after the same two target markets: Teeny Boppers and middle aged perverts. None of the women can sing worth a lick, and that doesn't matter. Can they be cute? Can clever editing make it look like they can actually dance? (Cyd Charisse they ain't) Can they be sexually stimulating to the older target market?

 

It all comes with a price. The "artists" actually think they are talented, but as soon as their cutesy-ness morphs into adulthood, they are tossed aside and new pubescent girls are promoted as the next best thing. So many of these K-Pop singers and actors end up taking their own life by their late 20s.

 

As for the music itself, the whole idea is to have a catch and then work it to death in the studio to make the voices a meaningless part of the whole. In the age of TikTok, where those without talent produce content for those without taste, it's a recipe for success, as the bar is set quite low. Cutesy is good enough. More power to them. Lisa Blackpink's recent $37 million contract says there is appeal, at least for now. Ideally she will survive her 20s and end up Mayor of Buriram.

Edited November 12, 2023 by Walker88

[MrPancake]

8 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I sort of get it.

 

That doesn't mean I like it.

 

This type of thing all began with Boy Bands in the US, like New Kids on the Block. It was aimed at Teeny Boppers who had access to Mom's purse.

 

Japan took it one step forward, using cutesy girls instead of boys. Pink Lady was a start. Decades later Morning Musume followed. J-Pop had two targets: Teeny Boppers and middle aged men who fantasized about schtupping schoolgirls. The music was all flash...the girls made to be sexually stimulating, their voices corrected in the studio to something less than cat-in-heat screams, and a fancy technical production.

 

Korea copied Japan and went after the same two target markets: Teeny Boppers and middle aged perverts. None of the women can sing worth a lick, and that doesn't matter. Can they be cute? Can clever editing make it look like they can actually dance? (Cyd Charisse they ain't) Can they be sexually stimulating to the older target market?

 

It all comes with a price. The "artists" actually think they are talented, but as soon as their cutesy-ness morphs into adulthood, they are tossed aside and new pubescent girls are promoted as the next best thing. So many of these K-Pop singers and actors end up taking their own life by their late 20s.

 

As for the music itself, the whole idea is to have a catch and then work it to death in the studio to make the voices a meaningless part of the whole. In the age of TikTok, where those without talent produce content for those without taste, it's a recipe for success, as the bar is set quite low. Cutesy is good enough. More power to them. Lisa Blackpink's recent $37 million contract says there is appeal, at least for now. Ideally she will survive her 20s and end up Mayor of Buriram.

 

Interesting historical perspective.

Whats going on ?

I'm learning stuff on the forum now... :))

[Fat is a type of crazy]

48 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I sort of get it.

 

That doesn't mean I like it.

 

This type of thing all began with Boy Bands in the US, like New Kids on the Block. It was aimed at Teeny Boppers who had access to Mom's purse.

 

Japan took it one step forward, using cutesy girls instead of boys. Pink Lady was a start. Decades later Morning Musume followed. J-Pop had two targets: Teeny Boppers and middle aged men who fantasized about schtupping schoolgirls. The music was all flash...the girls made to be sexually stimulating, their voices corrected in the studio to something less than cat-in-heat screams, and a fancy technical production.

 

Korea copied Japan and went after the same two target markets: Teeny Boppers and middle aged perverts. None of the women can sing worth a lick, and that doesn't matter. Can they be cute? Can clever editing make it look like they can actually dance? (Cyd Charisse they ain't) Can they be sexually stimulating to the older target market?

 

It all comes with a price. The "artists" actually think they are talented, but as soon as their cutesy-ness morphs into adulthood, they are tossed aside and new pubescent girls are promoted as the next best thing. So many of these K-Pop singers and actors end up taking their own life by their late 20s.

 

As for the music itself, the whole idea is to have a catch and then work it to death in the studio to make the voices a meaningless part of the whole. In the age of TikTok, where those without talent produce content for those without taste, it's a recipe for success, as the bar is set quite low. Cutesy is good enough. More power to them. Lisa Blackpink's recent $37 million contract says there is appeal, at least for now. Ideally she will survive her 20s and end up Mayor of Buriram.

Some truth in there but much of what you describe has happened since the Monkees and before, in all pop markets, though they do take it to a new level. Many of them are clever and talented. I doubt a large part of the market in terms of $ is older people and I certainly take umbrage if it is suggested older people who have a bit of fun with KPop have to include an element of perversion to enjoy it. 

[Walker88]

3 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Some truth in there but much of what you describe has happened since the Monkees and before, in all pop markets, though they do take it to a new level. Many of them are clever and talented. I doubt a large part of the market in terms of $ is older people and I certainly take umbrage if it is suggested older people who have a bit of fun with KPop have to include an element of perversion to enjoy it. 

The Monkees were a manufactured group, but they were already adults. Morning Musume and what has come after were mid-teens.

 

I was living in Japan when that whole J-Pop thing began. I knew a guy in that business, and I know part of the goal was to attract middle age guys who fantasized about schtupping girls that age. It was building on the Super Loose Socks porn theme popular at that time.

 

I don't know for a fact Korea had the same goal, but I suspect it did.

 

As for talent, I don't think any of them are selected because of their voice or dance moves. It's all cutesy, and whatever they lack is corrected with Autotune and 2-second editing of video. There is a massive difference between the dance skills of, say Fred and Ginger, or Gene and Cyd, who did many of their dance scenes in a one or two camera takes. Today's 'dancers' only need to learn one move, do it, then it gets spliced in two-second cuts into a 3 minute video. (Look at "Moses Supposes" from Singin in the Rain...three camera takes in a 2+ minute dance, or Fred Astaire and Eleanor Powell dancing to Begin the Beguine...two camera takes in a three minute routine). None of today's 'stars' can pull that sort of thing off. They don't have to to be considered stars.