20 minutes ago, gargamon said:

More trump lies. Nice sunny day. The general next to him didn't seem to be having problems.

Did you see he couldn't hold a glass of water in one hand without shaking so much he was spilling it? Needed two hands. 

 

Not of the VDO so no.

More charges coming I expect. Georgia all over agin in a different state. New mug shot, more donations.

 

Recordings reportedly show Trump pressuring Michigan canvassers to not certify 2020 vote: Detroit News

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4372940-recordings-reportedly-show-trump-pressuring-michigan-canvassers-not-certify-2020-vote/

On 12/21/2023 at 4:18 AM, Joebuzzz said:

His age is not as dominant as his 50 year record of complete incompetence.  His voting record literally proves he has never done anything for the American taxpayer but take their money away.  Unfortunately, too many people read the main stream media liars and believe them.  They only recently started showing the illegal alien invasion even though it's been on Fox, Newsmax, OANN, Brietbart, for as long as Bidens been in office.  They knew about Hunters laptop before the 2021 election, but wouldn't report on it.  Months later 17% of voters said had they known they WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR BIDEN.  If you're fed by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, WaPo, NBC, NPR, BBC, etc, you're not getting all the real news and half the time you're getting lied to.  Now, Lachlan Murdock, a total liberal, has taken control of FOX, so yeah, they're headed that way too.  Want to know what's up with Taylor Swift?  Watch FOX.

Yes, all Pres Biden has done is preside over the greatest job market in US history, has the economy growing faster than any other OECD country, rebuilt NATO and unified it behind a common cause, dealt with the massive inflation trump caused by running up new National Debt equivalent to $24,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, got a bipartisan infrastructure bill passed, and has the US producing more energy than ever and more oil and gas than any country in the world.

 

As for the migrant issue, Border Patrol and Homeland Security say they are understaffed. Do you know why? Because the repub-led House slashed the budget for Border Patrol.

 

In any event, I'd take a woman who walked 600 miles with her kids hoping to work in the US before I would want all the Red State losers on Social Security Disability Insurance, who are a drag on the Fed budget. The largest "Employer" in several Red States, like KY, TN and WV is SSDI.

 

Immigrants are the lifeblood of the US. 

On 12/21/2023 at 4:53 AM, Joebuzzz said:

I don't actually believe it's going to be over.  Dominion machines were just kicked out of one country and others are beginning to realize how easy it is to feed them lies when they're connected to the internet.  So, I don't think this issue is over.  It's just that getting the evidence is almost impossible.  Kinda like finding Jimmie Hoffa. Maybe he's not dead.  Who really killed JFK?  Jury still out on that.  Was 9/11 false flag?  Well, the FBI building fell down on itself without getting hit.  It's a crooked world we live in.  Trump kicked off Colorado ballot?  He'll be back on.  That's what you get with activist liberal judges and politicians.  Lawyers are just liars and the best become judges.

There is reality, and then there is what you believe.

 

The election was in Nov 2020. It's now Dec 2023, in case you've forgotten. ZERO evidence. None.

 

Oh, and Hugo Chavez is still dead and did not program an Italian satellite that changed votes in Dominion machines. trump's batshoot crazy lawyer admitted she made that up.

On 12/21/2023 at 11:18 AM, Joebuzzz said:

His age is not as dominant as his 50 year record of complete incompetence.  His voting record literally proves he has never done anything for the American taxpayer but take their money away.  Unfortunately, too many people read the main stream media liars and believe them.  They only recently started showing the illegal alien invasion even though it's been on Fox, Newsmax, OANN, Brietbart, for as long as Bidens been in office.  They knew about Hunters laptop before the 2021 election, but wouldn't report on it.  Months later 17% of voters said had they known they WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR BIDEN.  If you're fed by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, WaPo, NBC, NPR, BBC, etc, you're not getting all the real news and half the time you're getting lied to.  Now, Lachlan Murdock, a total liberal, has taken control of FOX, so yeah, they're headed that way too.  Want to know what's up with Taylor Swift?  Watch FOX.

 

Lachlan Murdoch is a liberal now? Where did you get that idea?

 

 

Lachlan Murdoch Is 'More Conservative' than Dad Rupert, Says Source: 'Could Go All Out for Trump'

A plugged-in political source tells PEOPLE that Lachlan, as the new CEO, likely won't make any "major changes."

“If he does make some changes, I don’t think they will be good ones,” the source continues.

https://people.com/lachlan-murdoch-more-conservative-than-rupert-source-says-7973718

 

I love that new song by Taylor Swift about Trump. "You'll stare at the sun but you won't look in the mirror".

The Bloated Orange Traitor, aka, the convicted sex offender, convicted charity fraudster, convicted corrupt business owner and the guy facing 91 felony indictments, is now trying to claim he has immunity for what crimes he committed while POTUS.

 

He really ought to be careful what he wishes for, as if the Supreme Court rules a sitting President is immune, Biden could task SEAL Team 6 with doing an Osama bin Laden on trump. Double tap, and then "Pardon Me, I'm immune."

 

As it is, trump is going to have lots of trouble when the NY judge takes away his NYC properties owing to his years of bank and insurance fraud. trump still owes billions to Russian oligarchs, who funneled money through SIVs set up by Deutsche Bank. trump's evil spawn Uday and Qusay Eric and Donny, jr. have both stated in the past that "We get all the funding we need from Russia". They were referring to the off balance sheet SIVs DB set up.

 

Those oligarchs do not take kindly to being stiffed. A couple of Secret Service guys on GS-14 salaries are not going to be able to stop some Wagner Group guys hired by the oligarchs to take a pound of flesh from trump.

14 hours ago, Joebuzzz said:

Not pulled, refused to allow is more like it.

Canada Elections Department Announces It Refuses To Use Dominion Voting Systems

 

November 18, 2020 at 2:44pm

 

Canada’s elections management body announced Tuesday that it does not use Dominion Voting Systems election software, a heavily scrutinized voting software that has been the subject of many conspiracy theories surrounding the 2020 U.S. presidential election.

Elections Canada wanted to assure Canadian voters that they should not have the same concerns Americans have regarding election integrity.

“Elections Canada does not use Dominion Voting Systems. We use paper ballots counted by hand in front of scrutineers and have never used voting machines or electronic tabulators to count votes in our 100-year history,” Elections Canada tweeted Monday.

Old news, and right when the trump lies were peaking. Canada didn't want to use any voting machines, Dominion or otherwise. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Dominion, as Fox found out with its lies.

 

Of course, trumpers cried about paper ballots, too, claiming the 'found' bamboo in some ballots, suggesting the ballots were made in China. Of course, there was no bamboo, and no ballots from China. It was just another silly lie from trumpistan and Goober Central. trumpers are the world's biggest snowflakes, whining about everything, and always wrong.

 

Rudy lied about 'suitcases' and 'thumb drives' in GA (You know Georgia; that's where trump tried to pressure the GA SecState to "just find me 11,780 votes") Rudy was convicted of harming the two poll workers via his lies, and the aggrieved parties were awarded $148 million, leading to the drunk Rudy to declare bankruptcy.

 

As for trump and his pressuring of Raffensperger, trump faces charges including RICO violations, which carry a mandatory 5 year jail sentence.

17 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Yes, all Pres Biden has done is preside over the greatest job market in US history, has the economy growing faster than any other OECD country, rebuilt NATO and unified it behind a common cause, dealt with the massive inflation trump caused by running up new National Debt equivalent to $24,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, got a bipartisan infrastructure bill passed, and has the US producing more energy than ever and more oil and gas than any country in the world.

 

As for the migrant issue, Border Patrol and Homeland Security say they are understaffed. Do you know why? Because the repub-led House slashed the budget for Border Patrol.

 

In any event, I'd take a woman who walked 600 miles with her kids hoping to work in the US before I would want all the Red State losers on Social Security Disability Insurance, who are a drag on the Fed budget. The largest "Employer" in several Red States, like KY, TN and WV is SSDI.

 

Immigrants are the lifeblood of the US. 

 

Reality... down the hall, then left, then right and then just keep going......

16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Reality... down the hall, then left, then right and then just keep going......

As usual, you've got nothing.

I just scanned this topic.  Has anyone tried to refute that Trump engaged in insurrection?  You know, the topic of the topic?  If so, I didn't see it.

On 12/22/2023 at 1:00 PM, Danderman123 said:

Do you believe that Trump really weighs 215 lbs?

Not having weighed him, how would I know what he weighs? Are you claiming you do?

8 hours ago, heybruce said:

I just scanned this topic.  Has anyone tried to refute that Trump engaged in insurrection?  You know, the topic of the topic?  If so, I didn't see it.

The answer is: he may have, but has not been convicted yet.

Let me try to explain it this way:

 

the Constitution does not require that a president be convicted by a court of law as a requirement for impeachment. Therefore, Congress doesn't need a reason to impeach a president, it just comes down to votes. This quirk has recently shown to be easily abused.

 

Likewise, the Constitution does not require conviction for sedition before removal from the ballot. Therefore, its possible to remove candidates from the ballot simply because the votes to do so are there.

 

 

6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you think Trump weighs 215 lbs, as he claims?

 

Since you asked me to prove you are a cult follower of the Orange Jesus, one simple proof is your inability to answer a very simple question.

As it is a deflection, and as such off topic, I am not required to play that silly game.

No proof provided, so what does that make you?

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World is likely a safer place with the insurrectionist\con-man rather than the neo-con in the oval office now.

3 minutes ago, pegman said:

World is likely a safer place with the insurrectionist\con-man rather than the neo-con in the oval office now.

Looking at Ukraine and his lack of opposition to China you couldn't be more wrong.

On 12/22/2023 at 8:36 PM, ozimoron said:

More charges coming I expect. Georgia all over agin in a different state. New mug shot, more donations.

 

Recordings reportedly show Trump pressuring Michigan canvassers to not certify 2020 vote: Detroit News

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4372940-recordings-reportedly-show-trump-pressuring-michigan-canvassers-not-certify-2020-vote/

More charges, as in what charges are you expecting?  Phone charges maybe? Why don't you tell us what is illegal about calling people and asking, requesting, demanding this, that or the other thing. Do explain what laws have been violated by these "calls". 

 

Unless/until you do, you got NOTHING. No surprise. 

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

More charges, as in what charges are you expecting?  Phone charges maybe? Why don't you tell us what is illegal about calling people and asking, requesting, demanding this, that or the other thing. Do explain what laws have been violated by these "calls". 

 

Unless/until you do, you got NOTHING. No surprise. 

 

Actually, now that you mention it, not only has he committed bribery which is a felony but wire fraud as well through the use of the telephone. Offering a thing of value (expensive legal representation) in exchange for committing an unlawful act = a crime.

Just now, illisdean said:

Georgia all over agin in a different state.

The Supremes ruling on Smith presidential immunity certiorari  has just thrown chaos on DC trial and this will include GA fulton case as well due to it's federal aspects. If DC and fulton do in fact make it to trial it will be in 2025 likely but more prone to die a slow death and fall by the democratic failed attempt wayside to get Trump which might just nearing it's end as the dem losers are running out of ways to destroy democracy.

3 minutes ago, illisdean said:

The Supremes ruling on Smith presidential immunity certiorari  has just thrown chaos on DC trial and this will include GA fulton case as well due to it's federal aspects. If DC and fulton do in fact make it to trial it will be in 2025 likely but more prone to die a slow death and fall by the democratic failed attempt wayside to get Trump which might just nearing it's end as the dem losers are running out of ways to destroy democracy.

 

The SC did not rule on anything.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Actually, now that you mention it, not only has he committed bribery which is a felony but wire fraud as well through the use of the telephone. Offering a thing of value (expensive legal representation) in exchange for committing an unlawful act = a crime.

lol...fraud, wire fraud ....but what if the phone had no wire, as in a wireless phone? LOL....you not only got NOTHING ...you got nothing intelligent to say. The article in reference you provide makes no mention of your fantasy wire fraud by wireless device, lol or bribery. Why are you making things up. It's too early to be drunk.

Just now, ozimoron said:

 

The SC did not rule on anything.

breath deep and try to envision how SCOUTS just told jack to go away.

1 minute ago, illisdean said:

breath deep and try to envision how SCOUTS just told jack to go away.

 

By refusing to hear the case. That automatically sends it back to the lower appeals court.

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

By refusing to hear the case. That automatically sends it back to the lower appeals court.

and then ....guess what happens next, after Chutkan puts DC trial on "hold" pending appeals. This Fanny willis and her RICO case against the same POTUS that DC appeals are going to make their ruling...on guess...whats your best guess and guess when...? Sometime next year when MAL case and Judge Cannon get thru discovery, 12M docs or so and if this goes to trial later next year, wow ,,,the trials that manage to survive may occur in 2025 or later but likely not at all, do you know why there will be no trials? LOL. I doubt you'd answer honestly if you knew and had a clue  with what exactly is going on.

Edited December 24, 20232 yr by illisdean

On 12/22/2023 at 8:36 PM, ozimoron said:

More charges coming I expect. Georgia all over agin in a different state. New mug shot, more donations.

 

Recordings reportedly show Trump pressuring Michigan canvassers to not certify 2020 vote: Detroit News

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4372940-recordings-reportedly-show-trump-pressuring-michigan-canvassers-not-certify-2020-vote/

LOL...this is your "Trump gotcha" fantasy playing out live on the AN platform. Lame.

2 minutes ago, illisdean said:

LOL...this is your "Trump gotcha" fantasy playing out live on the AN platform. Lame.

 

My "fantasy" or just a quote from a media source?

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Looking at Ukraine and his lack of opposition to China you couldn't be more wrong.

No idea what "looking at Ukraine" means. It's only a victory for Biden if Russia loses and that's looking less likely with every month of stalemate. Zelensky is short half a million men ( according to another thread ) and the US isn't providing enough munitions now. The GOP cut the funding, I believe.

It's not looking good for Ukraine any way it's looked at.

7 minutes ago, illisdean said:

and then ....guess what happens next, after Chutkan puts DC trial on "hold" pending appeals. This Fanny willis and her RICO case against the same POTUS that DC appeals are going to make their ruling...on guess...whats your best guess and guess when...? Sometime next year when MAL case and Judge Cannon get thru discovery, 12M docs or so and if this goes to trial later next year, wow ,,,the trials that manage to survive may occur in 2025 or later but likely not at all, do you know why there will be no trials? LOL. I doubt you'd answer honestly if you knew and had a clue  with what exactly is going on.

 

Te appeal will be heard and decided in January. The the SC will hear the following appeal unless they can't find evidence of procedural error in which case they will again refuse to hear it.

31 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No idea what "looking at Ukraine" means. It's only a victory for Biden if Russia loses and that's looking less likely with every month of stalemate. Zelensky is short half a million men ( according to another thread ) and the US isn't providing enough munitions now. The GOP cut the funding, I believe.

It's not looking good for Ukraine any way it's looked at.

N

My comment has nothing to do with victory for Biden or not but with actions taken.