GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, scottiejohn said: If it is a real IBM you could not possibly have bought it in 1990 as they did not sell ANY laptops of any kind until 1992! Yes. I was just about to contact you to admit that it was 1992. Clinton was elected in 1992, NOT 1990. I purchased my first IBM laptop just before Clinton was elected president. My apologies to you, Sir! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Amazing how a request for help, turns out to be a bickering session on this forum between children of senior age. Anyway, OP, my suggestion is to never buy a computer without checking out it's CPU (Central Processing Unit) as it determines a lot about how fast it actually is. Just type in the processor into the search field on: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: I ain't lying, Babe! Since IBM and many other sites say that IBM did not sell a single laptop until October 1992 I declare you the LIAR! Sources and Further Information Atkinson, Paul. "Man in a Briefcase: The Social Construction of the Laptop Computer and the Emergence of a Type Form." Journal of Design History 18.2 (2005): 191–205. Christensen, Clayton M. "The Rigid Disk Drive Industry: A History of Commercial and Technological Turbulence." Business History Review 67.4 (1993):531–588. Leiner, Barry M. et al. "The Past and Future History of the Internet." Communications of the ACM 40.2 (1997): 103–108. History of laptops - Wikipedia The History of Laptop Computers (thoughtco.com) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 20 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: Here is my machine I purchased in 1990. Hope you enjoy the photo! More lies! The picture you posted is a NoteN51SX notebook and not a laptop and was not available in 1990! IBM PS/2 Note N51SX (walshcomptech.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 8 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Since IBM and many other sites say that IBM did not sell a single laptop until October 1992 I declare you the LIAR! Sources and Further Information Atkinson, Paul. "Man in a Briefcase: The Social Construction of the Laptop Computer and the Emergence of a Type Form." Journal of Design History 18.2 (2005): 191–205. Christensen, Clayton M. "The Rigid Disk Drive Industry: A History of Commercial and Technological Turbulence." Business History Review 67.4 (1993):531–588. Leiner, Barry M. et al. "The Past and Future History of the Internet." Communications of the ACM 40.2 (1997): 103–108. History of laptops - Wikipedia The History of Laptop Computers (thoughtco.com) YES! I am a liar! I lied about the date that Bill Clinton was elected. Anyway, concerning the ThinkPad..... As I recall it, the ThinkPad was supplied with several spare red rubber covers for the IBM keyboard klitoris. Do you remember? Those rubber clitoris covers would wear out quickly if one did too much fingering. Do you remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, scottiejohn said: More lies! The picture you posted is a NoteN51SX notebook and not a laptop and was not available in 1990! IBM PS/2 Note N51SX (walshcomptech.com) Yes. You are CORRECT, once more! Savour thou victory, while ye may! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 16 hours ago, Kinnock said: I have an Asus dual screen laptop, but it looks different to this 'Mistme' OEM laptop. Is this a Chinese copy? And why does the linked laptop not have the prominent ASUS logo under the screen in the accompanying blurb as every ASUS does nor reference the name ASUS even once in that lengthy info yet refers to Crelander X15? The introductory video shown in Lazada's video also calls it a Crelander X15, not an ASUS and it does not have the ASUS logo on the lid as all ASUS computers do. Perhaps it's not an ASUS! Edited February 17 by Liverpool Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 It was a very sad affair when IBM sold it's personal computing, including he TinkPad to China! I recall the controversy, as if it were yesterday. Still, if I were to buy a laptop, these days, then I would seriously consider buying a Chinese TinkPad... Or, as I now call it: The StinkPad. Any phones or laptops or routers coming out of China are just.... STINKY! Huawei is stinky, for example. So, I would say, the StinkPad might not be among my first choice, these days. At least, not until Xi steps down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said: As I stated... You are INCORRECT!, Sir! I know what I bought in 1990. I bought a ThinkPad. It had a red clitoris for a pointer. My memory of this is SOLID, Sir. 1990 was the date that I left the USA...for the last time. I would bet you any amount of money on this. You, Sir, are relying on what you read on the fing internet. I am relying on sales receipts, Sir! But, as everyone here knows.... Scots like you never give in. Or, maybe you are not from Scotland, either? IBM calls this the pointing stick, maybe... But, I call this the IBM clitoris. I had one before 1992, or...I thought I did. Perhaps, now that I recall it, I bought my first IBM laptop in 1990 without the clitoris. And then upgraded to an IBM laptop, with color monitor, WITH the clitoris. I will need to check my records. Also, I believe that I am mistaken, here. So, I apologize to you, Sir! (I purchased an IBM monochrome display laptop in 1990, just before leaving the USA. However, I do agree that it did not have a clitoris attached to it. So, then, I am wrong. You are right, as usual.) Do you get a kick out of typing the word "clitoris" so many times? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Do you get a kick out of typing the word "clitoris" so many times? No. Not unless I am thinking of the Chinese ThinkPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: And why does the linked laptop not have the prominent ASUS logo under the screen in the accompanying blurb as every ASUS does nor reference the name ASUS even once in that lengthy info yet refers to Crelander X15? The introductory video shown in Lazada's video also calls it a Crelander X15, not an ASUS and it does not have the ASUS logo on the lid as all ASUS computers do. Perhaps it's not an ASUS! The top photo is from the Crelander's web site and not from ASUS/the seller! Edited February 17 by scottiejohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: 38 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: And why does the linked laptop not have the prominent ASUS logo under the screen in the accompanying blurb as every ASUS does nor reference the name ASUS even once in that lengthy info yet refers to Crelander X15? The introductory video shown in Lazada's video also calls it a Crelander X15, not an ASUS and it does not have the ASUS logo on the lid as all ASUS computers do. Perhaps it's not an ASUS! Expand The top photo is from the Crelander's web site and not from ADUS/the seller! I'm well aware of where the photos came from! Obviously, ASUS is not the seller. nor the maker of the X15 laptop being advertised...neither is ADUS [sic], come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 20 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: It was a very sad affair when IBM sold it's personal computing, including he TinkPad to China! I recall the controversy, as if it were yesterday. Still, if I were to buy a laptop, these days, then I would seriously consider buying a Chinese TinkPad... Or, as I now call it: The StinkPad. Any phones or laptops or routers coming out of China are just.... STINKY! Huawei is stinky, for example. So, I would say, the StinkPad might not be among my first choice, these days. At least, not until Xi steps down. Yet again you are being either "economical with the truth" or misleading! Lenovo Group Limited, is a Chinese-American multinational technology company specializing in designing, manufacturing, and marketing consumer electronics, personal computers, software, business solutions, and related services. The majority of ThinkPad computers since the 2005 acquisition of the brand by Lenovo have been made in Mexico, Slovakia, India and China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 16 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Yet again you are being either "economical with the truth" or misleading! Lenovo Group Limited, is a Chinese-American multinational technology company specializing in designing, manufacturing, and marketing consumer electronics, personal computers, software, business solutions, and related services. The majority of ThinkPad computers since the 2005 acquisition of the brand by Lenovo have been made in Mexico, Slovakia, India and China. Thank you for being more diplomatic, this time around, Sir! And, as you say, Macau is a free state, too! Have you ever been there? All the casinos in Macau are privately owned, too! Once a cadre, always a cadre: One rarely reads such FLATTERY on Wikipedia, unless it is written by the cadres of the Chi-Coms.... Edited February 17 by GammaGlobulin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya420 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, CanadaSam said: Amazing how a request for help, turns out to be a bickering session on this forum between children of senior age. Anyway, OP, my suggestion is to never buy a computer without checking out it's CPU (Central Processing Unit) as it determines a lot about how fast it actually is. Just type in the processor into the search field on: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/ Yeh always do same with GPUs Thing is there is so many CPUs Will go through it. I asked here cuz sometimes you might get answers from ppl who know gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya420 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said: And why does the linked laptop not have the prominent ASUS logo under the screen in the accompanying blurb as every ASUS does nor reference the name ASUS even once in that lengthy info yet refers to Crelander X15? The introductory video shown in Lazada's video also calls it a Crelander X15, not an ASUS and it does not have the ASUS logo on the lid as all ASUS computers do. Perhaps it's not an ASUS! Yes I posted AliExpress link to them, and I saw this vid from Linus. Specs on paper are not the same as in laptop, so I pass. Will go real Asus or other brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya420 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said: It was a very sad affair when IBM sold it's personal computing, including he TinkPad to China! I recall the controversy, as if it were yesterday. Still, if I were to buy a laptop, these days, then I would seriously consider buying a Chinese TinkPad... Or, as I now call it: The StinkPad. Any phones or laptops or routers coming out of China are just.... STINKY! Huawei is stinky, for example. So, I would say, the StinkPad might not be among my first choice, these days. At least, not until Xi steps down. What is Chinese ThinkPads? Any links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 11 minutes ago, Pattaya420 said: What is Chinese ThinkPads? Any links? https://activity.lenovo.com.cn/smb/thinkxp-c.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: https://activity.lenovo.com.cn/smb/thinkxp-c.html Try this link! Best ThinkPad in February 2024: Which Lenovo business laptop is best? | Laptop Mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 18 minutes ago, Pattaya420 said: What is Chinese ThinkPads? Any links? try this; Best ThinkPad in February 2024: Which Lenovo business laptop is best? | Laptop Mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya420 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 13 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: https://activity.lenovo.com.cn/smb/thinkxp-c.html Thanks this Chinese looks better then the fake AliExpress Asus. Are this prices in THB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya420 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 13 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: try this; Best ThinkPad in February 2024: Which Lenovo business laptop is best? | Laptop Mag Cute but they 30-50k+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya420 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Some of this laptops I am browsing 8GB RAM that's 🗑️ My phone got 8GB and they expensive too 26k-30k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, Pattaya420 said: Thanks this Chinese looks better then the fake AliExpress Asus. Are this prices in THB? No. Actually, I have a Chinese friend who purchased a ThinkPad several years ago. At that time, he lived in Thailand. He purchased the ThinkPad in China, and then had it shipped to Thailand. He told me he saved much money. I think he even ordered his ThinkPad with 32GB of RAM, in fact. So then, if you can buy in China and have it shipped to Thailand, and if you can find some way to not pay import duty, then, at least according to him, you can save some money. Personally, I have no need for a computer which is portable. I already have an OLD Acer laptop which I rarely use. Therefore, before buying, you might try contacting a Chinese friend, one who often checks computer pricing in China, and one who can tell you how to save money buying a laptop in China, and also how to ship it, very cheaply, to Thailand. This is why I always say: Not only do I love my Chinese friends...but....also... We Chinese always help each other. This is the way it works in China. An Old China Friend/Old China Ham (lao-peng-you) is a friend for life. There is a huge trade of goods coming in from China, traded by recently arrived Chinese now living in Thailand. Note: I love my Chinese friends. But, sometimes, it's more difficult for me to get close to guys from Scotland, try as I might..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya420 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: No. Actually, I have a Chinese friend who purchased a ThinkPad several years ago. At that time, he lived in Thailand. He purchased the ThinkPad in China, and then had it shipped to Thailand. He told me he saved much money. I think he even ordered his ThinkPad with 32GB of RAM, in fact. So then, if you can buy in China and have it shipped to Thailand, and if you can find some way to not pay import duty, then, at least according to him, you can save some money. Personally, I have no need for a computer which is portable. I already have an OLD Acer laptop which I rarely use. Therefore, before buying, you might try contacting a Chinese friend, one who often checks computer pricing in China, and one who can tell you how to save money buying a laptop in China, and also how to ship it, very cheaply, to Thailand. This is why I always say: Not only do I love my Chinese friends...but....also... We Chinese always help each other. This is the way it works in China. An Old China Friend/Old China Ham (lao-peng-you) is a friend for life. There is a huge trade of goods coming in from China, traded by recently arrived Chinese now living in Thailand. Note: I love my Chinese friends. But, sometimes, it's more difficult for me to get close to guys from Scotland, try as I might..... I think duty fee on computers is lower then other thinks tho not sure 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 13 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: He purchased the ThinkPad in China, and then had it shipped to Thailand. He told me he saved much money. I think he even ordered his ThinkPad with 32GB of RAM, in fact. So then, if you can buy in China and have it shipped to Thailand, and if you can find some way to not pay import duty, then, at least according to him, you can save some money. What about warranty, licensing, repair etc if you do that and not buy locally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: What about warranty, licensing, repair etc if you do that and not buy locally? Not sure. You want me to ask my Chinese friend? Anyway, a laptop is useless unless it has a Global Warranty. Even Old China Hams know this to be true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 4 hours ago, scottiejohn said: If it is a real IBM you could not possibly have bought it in 1990 as they did not sell ANY laptops of any kind until 1992! You might want to check this. I suspect that 1992 date refers to made for US domestic market. https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=135090 Edited February 17 by lopburi3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Is Linux as secure as OsX ? Is it easy to install ? Can it be installed on Mac or only or a PC laptop ? Can one use Linux normally to browse, make digital payment etc...use it like any other normal operating system ? Sorry for the stupid questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GammaGlobulin Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: You might want to check this. https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=135090 Yes. Correct. I purchased a monochrome IBM laptop BEFORE Bill Clinton was elected. So....thank you.... Now you know...I was NOT lying. That was a very slow machine. Also, the monochrome display was not good. It ran on IBM-DOS, in fact. Thank you.... OCH Edited February 17 by GammaGlobulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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