90 Report Slip with date Not in Passport

[LivingNThailand]

Phuket immigration forgot to put the 90 day Report Slip in my passport on the last extension and I'm not sure when my next 90 day is due.  Here are the details.

1.  Did a 90 day on line February 20, 2024

2.  Renewed my extension on March 13, 2024.  Noticed that the 90 day report slip was not in the passport and asked the clerk for one.   She came back with a post-it note with the date May 20, 2024.

3.  After a few days I realized that May 20 was about 3 weeks earlier than 90 days from the March 13 renewal.  It was actually 90 days from my February 20 report date.

4.  Contacted the Phuket Volunteer group and they wrote back:  

But the 90 day reporting is independent of the extension date.

The 90 Day is counted from your last reporting or from your last entry into the country, Whichever comes first.

 

That didn't sit right with me.  I looked at my calendar for the past 2 years and it looks like the 90 days reports were 90 days from the annual extension.

 

So my question is, after my long detailed explanation, is when do I need to do the 90 day report?  I'd rather not have to drive to the immigration office and ask them if I don't have to.

Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

 

 

 

 

[DrJack54]

32 minutes ago, LivingNThailand said:

But the 90 day reporting is independent of the extension date.

This is correct.

[Bert got kinky]

 

After your long detailed explanation, I am confused at your post

Both the IO and the Phuket Volunteer group have correctly informed you that your extension does not automatically extend your 90 day report, yet you refuse to accept their advice.

 

As you made your last report online, you will receive an e-mail a couple of weeks before the next report date, telling you that the report is due.

 

[Gsxrnz]

It's 90 days from your last report, or your latest arrival in Thailand, whichever occurred last.

[federicoP]

I renewed my extension at Phuket Immigration on the 5th of March and they fixed in my passport a new 90 days report slip asking me to notify after 90 days starting from the 5th of March.

Same thing happened to me in the last ten years (always Phuket).

 

But a friend of mine, that renewed in the middle of March, had the same problem of Livingnthailand.
Maybe a recent change in Phuket Immigration policy ?

[LivingNThailand]

20 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

that your extension does not automatically extend your 90 day report, yet you refuse to accept their advice.

It's not that I am refusing to take anyone's advice, I have lived here long enough to realize that there are many "answers" to the same question.  Especially when it comes to immigration.  That was why I was asking this community for some additional advice.   Every year my 90 day was in June following the extension when I extended basically on the same day every year.     This year May. ?  I had questions.   If I get an email reminding me to do the 90 days then it will clear everything up.

Edited April 24 by LivingNThailand

[LivingNThailand]

4 minutes ago, federicoP said:

I renewed my extension at Phuket Immigration on the 5th of March and they fixed in my passport a new 90 days report slip asking me to notify after 90 days starting from the 5th of March.

Same thing happened to me in the last ten years (always Phuket).

 

But a friend of mine, that renewed in the middle of March, had the same problem of Livingnthailand.
Maybe a recent change in Phuket Immigration policy ?

They had a whole new staff at room 103 March 13.  There seemed to be a bit of disarray. (actually more than a bit)   I looked at my calendar for the past 3 years and it was always 90 days from extension, June for March extension.  I'm hoping I get an email reminding me to apply for the 90 on line.  I've only done on-line 2x.   

I was hoping for an easy answer.  😅  In my dreams.

Maybe a Phuket thing?

Edited April 24 by LivingNThailand

[saintdomingo]

8 minutes ago, LivingNThailand said:

They had a whole new staff at room 103 March 13.  There seemed to be a bit of disarray. (actually more than a bit)   I looked at my calendar for the past 3 years and it was always 90 days from extension, June for March extension.  I'm hoping I get an email reminding me to apply for the 90 on line.  I've only done on-line 2x.   

I was hoping for an easy answer.  😅  In my dreams.

Maybe a Phuket thing?

You've had the easy and correct answer enough times here. The date of the extension does not affect the report date.

[LivingNThailand]

9 minutes ago, saintdomingo said:

You've had the easy and correct answer enough times here. The date of the extension does not affect the report date

I guess you didn't read federicoP comment about his experience in Phuket 1 week before my experience and the 10 years of experience we both have had at Phuket Immigration on this subject.   The 90 days was, in the past, 90 days from the extension....IN Phuket.  It looks like it changed between March 5 and March 13??  

I don't know why I bother asking for help on this forum if people want to criticize my questions and comments.  

Edited April 24 by LivingNThailand

[Bert got kinky]

29 minutes ago, LivingNThailand said:

I guess you didn't read federicoP comment about his experience in Phuket 1 week before my experience and the 10 years of experience we both have had at Phuket Immigration on this subject.   The 90 days was, in the past, 90 days from the extension....IN Phuket.  It looks like it changed between March 5 and March 13??  

I don't know why I bother asking for help on this forum if people want to criticize my questions and comments.  

 

I don't know why I bother asking for help on this forum

And I don't know why you bother asking for help if all you are going to do is ignore the advice given and then rudely berate posters for trying to help you.

 

[dingdongrb]

"Phuket immigration forgot to put the 90 day Report Slip in my passport on the last extension......."

 

Duhhhhhh, your fault for not checking before leaving Immigration. Always check for accuracy and completion of forms and stamps BEFORE leaving Immigration.

 

I had them switch my 90 form for another person's. Yepper, looked at the 90 form they stapled in my passport as I was walking out the door and I noticed it wasn't my name on it.

 

I had another occurrence where my extension stamp wasn't initialized by the big boss. I noticed and questioned this before I left Immigration. I got a 'sorry', they took my passport back, and after waiting another 15 minutes it was returned to me with the stamp being initialed as required.

 

Just because they made mistakes doesn't mean that will be a useable excuse when you are found to be overstaying.

 

[0ffshore360]

I have had one of two different results when renewing extension. Some times regardless of when 90 day is due I have been given an updated 90 day form in passport along with new extension. Other times I have only received the extension and the 90 day is ignored .

If exiting and returning with re entry permit any previous possibly convenient coincidental dates get disrupted anyway by a restart of report span so I have formed to habit of making no assumptions with Immigration stamps and outcome for anything.

[LivingNThailand]

2 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

don't know why I bother asking for help on this forum

And I don't know why you bother asking for help if all you are going to do is ignore the advice given and then rudely berate posters for trying to help you.

Look, I shouldn't have said what I said, but there were a few snarky comments.  I was talking about Phuket specifically and someone mentioned that he had the same experience in Phuket that I have had in the past.   90 day report 90 days after extension, for 10 years.  

 

Then this guy below obviously didn't read my post.   Duhhhhhhh   really?   If he had read my post he would have seen that I DID check my passport and asked for a 90 day slip.   This is what I got. 

 

 

Not exactly professional or official.   Which is WHY I was asking for assistance in this forum, not to be made fun of.

 

Hey, I thought we were all here to help each other.   

 

 

1 hour ago, dingdongrb said:

Duhhhhhh, your fault for not checking before leaving Immigration. Always check for accuracy and completion of forms and stamps BEFORE leaving Immigration.

 Mr. Dingdong,please read my post and you will see I did look at my passport before I left immigraion.

 

Edited April 24 by LivingNThailand

[alien365]

If you did the 90 day online, did you not get the official slip sent to your email after it was approved? 

[LivingNThailand]

32 minutes ago, alien365 said:

If you did the 90 day online, did you not get the official slip sent to your email after it was approved? 

I did my extension on March 13.  NORMALLY, Phuket immigration puts a 90 day notice in the passport with the extension stamp.  And Normally, in the past, the 90 days is 90 days from the extension, at least in Phuket. Immigration has done this  Every year for 9 years. 

 

I Always check my passport before leaving immigration to make sure everything is ok before I leave.  This year there was no 90 day slip in my passport, and when I asked, I got this little hand written note on a post it.   (see photo on above post).

 

It was a bit dodgy so I was asking for some advice on this forum so I wouldn't have to go back to immigration and ask.   At this point I'm hoping they will send me an email reminder like last time.   If not I will drive back to immigration and ask them what to do.

 

I was asking for some assistance.  Thank you, but I will sort it out myself.  

 

 

[federicoP]

51 minutes ago, LivingNThailand said:

At this point I'm hoping they will send me an email reminder like last time. 

My friend that was exactly in your situation has received the email reminder and went directly to the drive-in where they put a new slip starting from that day.
 

Beyond useless discussions, I think we can conclude that in Phuket until recently the 90 days started from the last extension, now they start from the last notification.

 

A warning for those who have to make the extension to Phuket, and are used to the old system, check your 90 days slip  !!!

[alien365]

1 hour ago, LivingNThailand said:

Phuket immigration puts a 90 day notice in the passport with the extension stamp.  And Normally, in the past, the 90 days is 90 days from the extension, at least in Phuket. Immigration has done this  Every year for 9 years. 

 

I Always check my passport before leaving immigration to make sure everything is ok before I leave.  This year there was no 90 day slip in my passport, and when I asked, I got this little hand written note on a post it.   (see photo on above post).

I understand your situation a lot better now. Based on what she gave you, I'd be pretty confident that you'll get the email reminder in the first or second week of May. If you don't, then as you say a trip there seems in order. I'd take it easy for now though. Sabai sabai

[LivingNThailand]

26 minutes ago, federicoP said:

Beyond useless discussions, I think we can conclude that in Phuket until recently the 90 days started from the last extension, now they start from the last notification.

 

A warning for those who have to make the extension to Phuket, and are used to the old system, check your 90 days slip  !!!

Thank you for your assistance.  I guess the system has changed, and Phuket is now "modern". hahaha   I've only done the online reporting twice.   I went back and found the email that reminded me to do the 90 day reporting.  It was 14 days before the deadline.  I'll keep a lookout for that.   In the meantime, I will assume that I am on the "new" system.  Thanks again.

[LivingNThailand]

3 minutes ago, alien365 said:

I understand your situation a lot better now. Based on what she gave you, I'd be pretty confident that you'll get the email reminder in the first or second week of May. If you don't, then as you say a trip there seems in order. I'd take it easy for now though. Sabai sabai

Yeah, I think I got it all sorted in my head now.   The little orange post-it threw me for a loop...  The system seemed to change, and they didn't tell me in advance.  🤣  Keeping the brain cells functioning...😅 by keeping us on our toes.  All in a day in Thailand.  🤗

[newbee2022]

23 hours ago, LivingNThailand said:

Phuket immigration forgot to put the 90 day Report Slip in my passport on the last extension and I'm not sure when my next 90 day is due.  Here are the details.

1.  Did a 90 day on line February 20, 2024

2.  Renewed my extension on March 13, 2024.  Noticed that the 90 day report slip was not in the passport and asked the clerk for one.   She came back with a post-it note with the date May 20, 2024.

3.  After a few days I realized that May 20 was about 3 weeks earlier than 90 days from the March 13 renewal.  It was actually 90 days from my February 20 report date.

4.  Contacted the Phuket Volunteer group and they wrote back:  

But the 90 day reporting is independent of the extension date.

The 90 Day is counted from your last reporting or from your last entry into the country, Whichever comes first.

 

That didn't sit right with me.  I looked at my calendar for the past 2 years and it looks like the 90 days reports were 90 days from the annual extension.

 

So my question is, after my long detailed explanation, is when do I need to do the 90 day report?  I'd rather not have to drive to the immigration office and ask them if I don't have to.

Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

 

 

 

 

Check it out by internet when are your next 90 days.

And... I'm surprised that it's immigration's duty to clip the slip into your passport.😳

[LivingNThailand]

32 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Check it out by internet when are your next 90 days.

And... I'm surprised that it's immigration's duty to clip the slip into your passport.😳

1.  That would be great if I knew how to do it.  Would you please let me know how I can check on the internet when my next 90 days is due?  I went on  the online reporting website but couldn't find it.  Thanks.

 

2.  For the past 9+ years Phuket immigration has put a slip of paper at the back of the passport with the next 90 day due date.   The first time on the extension day. Then every 90 days I would go to the immigration office, or afterwards the drive thru and get a new piece of paper stabled in the back of my passport.  On the extension day it resets.   Maybe they only do it at the Phuket Immigration,  I don't know.   This year there was no paper, only a little post-it note when I asked.   Thus the confusion.   

 

Now I'm doing it online for the past 2 times, and it appears that their system has changed to be actually every 90 days with no reset on extension day.   At least that is what I am assuming at this point.   We will see.   

[newbee2022]

15 minutes ago, LivingNThailand said:

1.  That would be great if I knew how to do it.  Would you please let me know how I can check on the internet when my next 90 days is due?  I went on  the online reporting website but couldn't find it.  Thanks.

 

2.  For the past 9+ years Phuket immigration has put a slip of paper at the back of the passport with the next 90 day due date.   The first time on the extension day. Then every 90 days I would go to the immigration office, or afterwards the drive thru and get a new piece of paper stabled in the back of my passport.  On the extension day it resets.   Maybe they only do it at the Phuket Immigration,  I don't know.   This year there was no paper, only a little post-it note when I asked.   Thus the confusion.   

 

Now I'm doing it online for the past 2 times, and it appears that their system has changed to be actually every 90 days with no reset on extension day.   At least that is what I am assuming at this point.   We will see.   

https://tm47.immigration.go.th/tm47/#/login

 

Try, it works if you're registered.

However, I'm sure the immigration got all your records. And I'm also sure they can print out a copy. 

Good luck 🙏

[LivingNThailand]

26 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

 

Try, it works if you're registered.

However, I'm sure the immigration got all your records. And I'm also sure they can print out a copy. 

Good luck 🙏

Yeah, you use the check status button.  Brilliant.

 

My initial confusion was that they now do it differently in Phuket, which was confirmed yesterday by another person living in Phuket.  Then I got some snarky responses, which wasn't cool at all.  I just didn't know it was a different system now.  You kind of have to live here to understand the webs and flows of life in Phuket.   It's complicated.   

 

Thanks.  Now I know.  You were the first person to suggest that.  

Edited April 25 by LivingNThailand

[newbee2022]

46 minutes ago, LivingNThailand said:

Yeah, you use the check status button.  Brilliant.

 

My initial confusion was that they now do it differently in Phuket, which was confirmed yesterday by another person living in Phuket.  Then I got some snarky responses, which wasn't cool at all.  I just didn't know it was a different system now.  You kind of have to live here to understand the webs and flows of life in Phuket.   It's complicated.   

 

Thanks.  Now I know.  You were the first person to suggest that.  

On this forum many people are nasty, giving comments only making you feel miserable.

Obviously the only thing to make them happy.

I wish you a happier life🙏

[LivingNThailand]

14 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I wish you a happier life🙏

You too.  Thanks again for your help.

 

[Liquorice]

4 hours ago, LivingNThailand said:

Now I'm doing it online for the past 2 times, and it appears that their system has changed to be actually every 90 days with no reset on extension day.   At least that is what I am assuming at this point.   We will see.   

Very unprofessional to give you the report date on a post-it note.

You mentioned a change of staff, and therein may lie your issue.
Rotated staff will continue the practice from their previous office unless instructed differently.

 

90 day reports and extension renewal dates should be completely separate.

When we had a new senior IO, he changed the 90-day report dates to be reset from the extension issue date.

 

You can file online from 14 days before the due date up until the due date.
However, the online system is automated, and issues the next report date from the date of approval, not the date it was actually due.

 

Edited April 25 by Liquorice

[BigStar]

On 4/24/2024 at 9:01 AM, Bert got kinky said:

As you made your last report online, you will receive an e-mail a couple of weeks before the next report date, telling you that the report is due.

 

Unless you don't receive that email. Be safe and track it yourself as well.

[BigStar]

6 hours ago, LivingNThailand said:

This year there was no paper, only a little post-it note when I asked.   Thus the confusion.   

 

If Immigration put a charming ittle post-it note in your passport w/ the next reporting date, then that's your official notification for this time. Roll with it. 

 

6 hours ago, LivingNThailand said:

Now I'm doing it online for the past 2 times, and it appears that their system has changed to be actually every 90 days with no reset on extension day. 

 

Far as I know the 90-day reporting date has never reset on extension day. It resets 90 days from your last report. Farang have never understood the reasoning behind this and continually whinged about it, but it is what it is.

 

Online reporting has taken away most of the pain--when it works, which seems to be most of the time IF you fill out the online form correctly. But they may invite you in for an in-person check anyway, as they did for me last time. I think I should be good again going forward.

 

[LivingNThailand]

2 minutes ago, BigStar said:

Far as I know the 90-day reporting date has never reset on extension day. It resets 90 days from your last report.

I was talking about Phuket specifically.  From what I understand every office is different.  Phuket Immigration Office  used to reset the 90 day on extension date (for the past 9+ years for me)  But now it's every 90 days no matter what.   I think because of online reporting, but who knows.  

Online reporting is nice.  In Phuket there has been a drive thru window for about 5 years, very nice if you have to go to Phuket Town.  No parking and no waiting too long. 

have a great evening.

 

[khunPer]

On 4/24/2024 at 3:58 AM, DrJack54 said:

On 4/24/2024 at 3:24 AM, LivingNThailand said:

But the 90 day reporting is independent of the extension date.

This is correct.

It's however depending on the local immigration office. For example Surat Thani, Koh Samui, resets the 90-days report upon approving extension of stay, as address is reported when applying for extension of stay.