Some truth to consider before voting for Farage and 'Reform'

[TorquayFan]

As a Brit on summer sojourn, in a Pub before the football yesterday, I happened to meet a 'Reform' candidate.

 

Farage and Reform cut an interesting if not tempting picture sometimes - to the point that Polls show that Reform have a 1% higher rating for voting intent than the Tories atm.

 

The Pub was surprisingly quiet, maybe 20 Folks, and I heard this Guy say he was the local Candidate. He was at the Bar alone so I approached him for a chat to which he was pleasantly receptive. After the football he was due to address a Meeting at a local Church Hall.

 

I asked him about Reform's spending plans in the context of interest rates and current UK Govt borrowing, which stands at about £180K for each member of the population and £400K for each family unit, (can you believe that).

 

His response was to the effect that a Reform Govt. would just not pay it back when due and that the Bond holders would just have to stuff it - a brilliant economic policy making Liz Truss look like a genius of Einstein or John Maynard Keynes calibre.

 

I quietly asked what his background was and apparently, its nothing of note, except for the common cant of being broke after 14 years of Tory rule. I'm not suggesting this affable clown is typical of Reform candidates but I think this to be, a tale of caution.

 

Vote for these hastily assembled reform candidates and see who you get !

 

 

 

Edited June 21 by TorquayFan

[stratocaster]

The reform party is not registered as a political party but as a business whose majority share holder is N Farage. They are not subject to "normal" rules regarding donor discloses. How do you think at the last election illegal secret donations were able to bypass the election commission.

 

[roger buttmore]

Listening to a bloke in the pub is always the best way to garner the most reliable of information on any subject or topic.

 

Thanks for the letting us in on it.

 

[FruitPudding]

Still better than Labour 

[simon43]

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Vote for these hastily assembled reform candidates and see who you get !

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I would happily vote for any clown, stick-insect, rag-doll or even sex-doll, because ALL of them have more commonsense and honesty than the trash of the Tory and Labour parties....

[jas007]

I don’t follow UK politics, but the Farage guy is interesting.  Reform type candidates attract voters who are fed up with the system and aren’t going to take it any more. Someone comes along to buck the system and people listen.  Sometimes, it works. It’s understandable.
 

Look at what just happened in Argentina.  
 

Trump was elected, in part, because many people would vote for anyone but Hillary.  They were fed up. People weren’t voting for Trump. They were voting against Hillary. They were sending a message. And to this day, the Democrats still don’t get it. The message wasn’t received. And so we’re about to have round two.  The establishment vs. just about anyone else. In this case, it’ll be Trump again.  His popularity increases every time the justice system moves against him, every time some establishment clown opens their mouth in congress.

 

”The border is secure.”  As millions of people pour through.
 

“No one is above the law.”  Except for certain people…..

[riclag]

Populist’s, It aint my country but globalism has reshaped cultures of  

western civilization ,IN PARTICULAR by allowing mass migration of immigrants from disadvantaged countries , into communities of the west.

Here below is a negative article on Populism  !Do you see how it transcends into scaremongering .

 

“If we are concerned about populism, it is because of the possibility of its collapse into authoritarianism”

 

Nigel & reform from what I can see, desperately want to hold  traditional values up in the UK, while the other parties want to hold up 

EU  socialist  globalists agenda.

 

Elites & Politicians establishment vs Traditional values nationalism 

 

methinks

 

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/is-the-uk-facing-a-populist-takeover-or-just-politics-as-usual/

[riclag]

On 6/24/2024 at 10:17 PM, simon43 said:

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Vote for these hastily assembled reform candidates and see who you get !

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I would happily vote for any clown, stick-insect, rag-doll or even sex-doll, because ALL of them have more commonsense and honesty than the trash of the Tory and Labour parties....

Lovely  prose, Simon .

cheers

[jas007]

The open borders issue is critical, right?  Millions of people show up in wealthy countries from poorer parts of the world. And those people require food, shelter, medical care, and other necessities.  And yet those resources are not free.

 

Milton Friedman once commented that “you can have a welfare state or you can have open borders, but you can’t have both.”  Something like that. And it’s true. There are now eight billion people in the world.  And most of those people don’t have much of an income.  Of course they will come to Europe or to America.  Why not?  Those showing up in the U.S. seem to get the royal treatment.  Free housing, free money, authorization to work, mobile phones, etc.  The government could stop that, but it refuses.  Perhaps they’re counting on many new democratic voters and they don’t care about the consequences. Or, maybe it’s part of a larger more sinister plan to destroy what’s left of America? 
 

My guess is that it’ll all backfire. Whatever the plan, the nonsense will stop, one way or another. 
 

As it now stands, the middle class is being eroded. The average person can no longer afford to buy a house. Eating basic food is becoming a luxury. A lot of people don’t realize what’s happening or why.  What they do know is that there’s a problem and, from what they hear from the propaganda channels, it’s transitory.  Or it’s Donald Trump’s fault.  Or it’s the Russians.  Or, maybe they’re being told that everything is great. After all, the stock market is hitting new highs.