Angela Rayner "fair share" of asylum seekers" For Every UK Borough

[JonnyF]

21 hours ago, RayC said:

It's therefore fortunate that the majority immigrants to the UK don't have those attributes.

 

Got any links to prove that?

[RayC]

8 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

"There is no differentiation there between legal (economic) immigrants and asylum seekers."

 

But as you said: You have no idea🙏

 

Ok I now know what you are referring to. And your point is?

[RayC]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Got any links to prove that?

 

You are the one claiming that "...we don't need more unskilled people (immigrants) bringing with them anti-semitic, misogynistic, intolerant belief systems."

 

In the first instance, it is up to you to provide evidence to support that contention not to me to disprove it.

[newbee2022]

50 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

Ok I now know what you are referring to. And your point is?

If you haven't the clue what are the differences between migrants, immigrants and asylum seekers....then I give up

[RayC]

19 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

If you haven't the clue what are the differences between migrants, immigrants and asylum seekers....then I give up

 

I understand the terms.

 

What I (still) don't know is what point you are trying to make.

[herfiehandbag]

Should go down well in Clacton!

[newbee2022]

39 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

I understand the terms.

 

What I (still) don't know is what point you are trying to make.

Asylum seekers got a right to stay and according to Genever convention you have to let them in. How to reduce the numbers? By create livable conditions in their home countries.

Immigrants you can chose according to skills. And migrants it's hard to deny entry if they got a job.

Now you again: where to start to reduce the numbers? I wonder how you wanna do it🤗

[RayC]

8 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Asylum seekers got a right to stay and according to Genever convention you have to let them in. How to reduce the numbers? By create livable conditions in their home countries.

 

I agree (+ try to ensure that they are free from persecution)

 

8 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Immigrants you can chose according to skills. And migrants it's hard to deny entry if they got a job.

Now you again: where to start to reduce the numbers? I wonder how you wanna do it🤗

 

A licence is required in order to employ overseas nationals. I doubt that this presents much of a problem for multinationals, but it is probably a different story for SMEs. However, that is an aside.

 

Rather than pander to calls to cut immigration to some arbitrary number, I would like to see immigration numbers based on the UK's estimated future needs. Of course for this to happen, it would the government to develop an integrated industrial strategy. Given that, such a policy would have to be medium/ long term in nature and political parties cannot see further than the next election, I'm not hopeful.

[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, RayC said:

 

I agree (+ try to ensure that they are free from persecution)

 

 

A licence is required in order to employ overseas nationals. I doubt that this presents much of a problem for multinationals, but it is probably a different story for SMEs. However, that is an aside.

 

Rather than pander to calls to cut immigration to some arbitrary number, I would like to see immigration numbers based on the UK's estimated future needs. Of course for this to happen, it would the government to develop an integrated industrial strategy. Given that, such a policy would have to be medium/ long term in nature and political parties cannot see further than the next election, I'm not hopeful.

I agree. I don't see any country to tackle this problem. 

Maybe one country got the right way to walk. Denmark.

They grant only to those support who passed the "asylum test". 

In Denmark then you'll have to learn the language and to work. So it's a win-win situation. Denmark get skilled workers and the subsidies at the beginning (school aso) are paid later back to the community (income tax aso).

If you look into Germany you'll see how it shouldn't work (same in UK). 2015 (Syria, Afghanistan )1.5 million, and 2022 1 million (Ukraine). = No education, no work permission ,(except Ukranian doctors, nurses, IT-specialists, engineers)

( The last international study about climate change shows that we'll have a climate in London similar to that in Florence. Time to plant palm trees. However, .....in 2080.🤗)

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