3 hours ago, Tug said:

Jee wizz I live in California I don’t see any of that here,I’m living in the state with the fifth largest economy on the ENTIRE planet…..the wife and I go for our 3 mile hike every day sometimes in the canyon near our home ……no trash no illegals  no sewage….sometimes we decide to do the waterfront walk alongside the bay surrounded by millions of people industry and small craft of all kinds…..you would be hard pressed to find any trash or an oil slick you are mistaken California reeks of money and success.

 

Right. So why are so many businesses leaving then?

 

https://buildremote.co/companies/companies-leaving-california/ 

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

He didn't back out. The initial pledge was misreported by WSJ. 

 

They made up the pledge, Musk corrected them and then they claimed Musk had retracted what he had never promised in the first place. 😃

Well you can never take a toxic narcissist at his word.

 

 

3 hours ago, Tug said:

That’s Ron desantis napkin after he was snarfing down chocolate pudding with his paws lol and I’m extremely active I’m out and about all the time….you certainly can find those conditions on skid row of any big city in any country on the planet unfortunately.The fact remains California is extremely successful clean vibrant and creative but you do have to pull your weight no slackers or you fall out

 

No chit?

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8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So let's go back to the facts? Did she or did she not have an affair with the married Willie who was 30 years older than her, in a position of political power and then later promoted her? 

Brown's relationship with Harris gained renewed attention in early 2019 after she had become a U.S. senator and ran for president. Brown addressed the questions by publishing a piece in the San Francisco Chronicle titled "Sure, I dated Kamala Harris. So what?"

 

He wrote that he may have "influenced" her career by appointing her to boards and supporting her run for District Attorney, but added that he had also influenced the careers of other politicians. Brown noted that the difference between Harris and other politicians he had helped was that

 

"Harris is the only one who, after I helped her, sent word that I would be indicted if I 'so much as jaywalked' while she was D.A. That's politics for ya".

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Brown_(politician)

3 hours ago, Tug said:

I’m sure the felon rapist is a bit nervous she was a tough DA and AG a for real law and order gal not the law doesn’t apply to me like the felon

I'm thinking, tagging her as having smoked pot may gain votes among many. Especially younger voters who have supported decriminalizing pot in many states.

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

He didn't back out. The initial pledge was misreported by WSJ. 

 

They made up the pledge, Musk corrected them and then they claimed Musk had retracted what he had never promised in the first place. 😃

Faux news facts? Hahahaha.

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Ah yes, the prosecutor who said whe was "proud" of a rapist (Jacob Blake) who assaulted police officers. Who set up and promoted charities to pay the bail for violent rioters. Who jailed pot smokers and was a pot smoker herself.

 

You are right, it WILL be a nice debate.

Against a sex offender, felon, children charity fraud, fake university fraud, who hasn't paid countless people who did work for him.

Didn't want black people as renters, has a VP candidate who says Indigenous Americans are the enemy.

Probably forgot a couple of things, feel free to add. 

3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Missed out your claims of word salad. Check out her undoing Trump big time in her First  appearance. You go Girl

 

Ten minutes of thankyous to the Wisconsin Dems followed by the ususal anti-Trump mud-slinging.

 

No mention of high costs of living, inflation and immigration.

 

Useless as expected. 

15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/

 

He said he doesn’t subscribe to cult of personality. Ouch that hurt big time. 

How appropriate. 

 

9 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Brown's relationship with Harris gained renewed attention in early 2019 after she had become a U.S. senator and ran for president. Brown addressed the questions by publishing a piece in the San Francisco Chronicle titled "Sure, I dated Kamala Harris. So what?"

 

He wrote that he may have "influenced" her career by appointing her to boards and supporting her run for District Attorney, but added that he had also influenced the careers of other politicians.

 

Exactly.

 

She slept her way up the greasy political ladder. I wonder why she was so attracted to the married Willie, 30 years her senior and in a position of great political power who did indeed later (by his own admission) help her gain political positions. Must have been love at first sight. 

 

Classy stuff from Harris. Strong independent woman. There's more than a whiff of Markle about her. 

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here’s the truth Jonny.

 

Soon after the news of Harris running was announced I cautioned ‘brace for misogyny and racism’.

So any criticism of her is misogyny and racism.  That's really what you're saying?

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well you can never take a toxic narcissist at his word.

Unless it wasn't actually his word.

If you left Harris out of it, and simply stated "A young woman with political ambition sleeps with the decades-older political power broker in her state and subsequently is appointed to positions that further her political career" everyone would reasonably assume this unnamed woman did indeed use sex to promote herself.

 

The fact that he, in his scores of years in politics, appointed other people to positions and presumably didn't sleep with them, is NOT a persuasive argument.

 

On the "Did she sleep her way to the top?" issue, I think any reasonable person would say, of course she did, at least partially.

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

She's on the expected bounce. An upsurge is not unusual, but will it last? Plenty of time for the GOP to destroy her, based on her own actions, or in the case of the southern border, inaction.

 

IMO she is inherently unlikable, and incompetent, but will that be enough to make her lose? We will have to wait till November to know.

 

The main thing for me, is that she didn't win a primary in her POTUS bid- people just don't like her.

All true, but they HATE the other guy, so she's on solid ground.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Where is Joe by the way? Seems to have disappeared. Who is running the country? Has anyone seen him? 

 

Seems we have an AI POTUS and a DEI VP. 😄

 

AWOL. Probably hasn't been told that he has resigned yet.

 

Not to worry. Looks like his loyal fans from last week have forgotten him already. Who'd have thought it? 

16 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

On the "Did she sleep her way to the top?" issue, I think any reasonable person would say, of course she did, at least partially.

Prior to 2003 Harris held multiple appointed positions for which Willie Brown might have influenced.

 

But after 2003 all her 'top' positions -- San Francisco District Attorney, California Attorney General, and US Senator from California -- were elected positions, not appointments.

Edited July 24, 20242 yr by jerrymahoney

27 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

So any criticism of her is misogyny and racism.  That's really what you're saying?

No that is not what I am saying all.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Oh, poor Donald(pun intended). Musk just backed out of his $45 million a month pledge to the Trump campaign. I guess Musk can see the writing on the wall.

 

Pun? Oh and do link your Musk news.

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Pun? Oh and do link your Musk news.

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/

2 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

When an intelligent woman of color runs for President, please let us know.

 

Rhodes Scholar, were you? Ivy or Stanford? Let's meet next Alumni Weekend.

 

Felonistas are so funny. I'd say Harris' IQ is 30 points above any of you here, and certainly dwarfs the 'stable genius'.

23 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

If you left Harris out of it, and simply stated "A young woman with political ambition sleeps with the decades-older political power broker in her state and subsequently is appointed to positions that further her political career" everyone would reasonably assume this unnamed woman did indeed use sex to promote herself.

 

The fact that he, in his scores of years in politics, appointed other people to positions and presumably didn't sleep with them, is NOT a persuasive argument.

 

On the "Did she sleep her way to the top?" issue, I think any reasonable person would say, of course she did, at least partially.

If Trump wants to bring up ancient history regarding sexual misconduct, he will have "Stormy" days ahead....5555  

At least Harris has never been found to sexually abuse anyone, unlike a certain DJT. 

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Pun? Oh and do link your Musk news.

No point. Already linked by others. 

40 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Exactly.

 

She slept her way up the greasy political ladder. I wonder why she was so attracted to the married Willie, 30 years her senior and in a position of great political power who did indeed later (by his own admission) help her gain political positions. Must have been love at first sight. 

 

Classy stuff from Harris. Strong independent woman. There's more than a whiff of Markle about her. 

What about Trump's imported wifes, was that all true love?

1 minute ago, gargamon said:

No point. Already linked by others. 

No point. Useless.

4 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/

So Vance refers to Trump as Hitler and Musk confirms the cult.

 

The ‘left’ are very cunning with their criticism of Trump.

10 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Prior to 2003 Harris held multiple appointed positions for which Willie Brown might have influenced.

 

But after 2003 all her 'top' positions -- San Francisco District Attorney, California Attorney General, and US Senator from California -- were elected positions, not appointments.

But she was only competitive for those positions based on the foundation Willie, uh, laid for her.  Had she NOT been in a "relationship" with him, would she have gone anywhere politically?  Would her career have taken a different and much less successful path?  Would someone else have gotten those starting positions necessary to get one's foot in the door in local and state politics, and prospered instead of her?  All speculation, but it's reasonable to say "probably" to all of it.

 

If Trump's nasty sexual past (both the criminal and simply immoral) is fair game so is hers.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So Vance refers to Trump as Hitler and Musk confirms the cult.

 

The ‘left’ are very cunning with their criticism of Trump.

Any wonder where the "eating thier own" is applicable. 

4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

What about Trump's imported wifes, was that all true love?

Then we're agreed on both people.

 

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Oh, poor Donald(pun intended). Musk just backed out of his $45 million a month pledge to the Trump campaign. I guess Musk can see the writing on the wall.

you're supposed to provide links apparently.

Just now, ChicagoExpat said:

But she was only competitive for those positions based on the foundation Willie, uh, laid for her.  Had she NOT been in a "relationship" with him, would she have gone anywhere politically?  Would her career have taken a different and much less successful path?  Would someone else have gotten those starting positions necessary to get one's foot in the door in local and state politics, and prospered instead of her?  All speculation, but it's reasonable to say "probably" to all of it.

 

If Trump's nasty sexual past (both the criminal and simply immoral) is fair game so is hers.

Or so you assert and your evidence is a tired old misogynist trope.