After the opening ceremony debacle now we have a big hairy arssed man beating up a lady in the boxing ring.

All you woke lefties on here please try your best to justify this.

Never seen a hairy broad before?

Yep, how does this DNA tested as XY chromosome get to box as a female (woman are XX, men XY)

 

Don't even need a DNA test, it's obviously a man

 

12 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

Yep, how does this DNA tested as XY chromosome get to box as a female (woman are XX, men XY)

 

Don't even need a DNA test, it's obviously a man

 

He is an ugly bloke so not much chance of kidding anyone otherwise.

I know it will never happen as too much training went into this but I wish every fighter just quits when the bell is rung. Would show the IOC what a farce this is as they hand him a gold medal with no fights.

 

Anyway, next fighter Hamori doesn't give a <deleted> it's a man. She told reporters: "I'm not scared. I don't care about the press story and social media. If she or he is a man, it will be a bigger victory for me if I win."

 

3 hours ago, Pattaya57 said:

Yep, how does this DNA tested as XY chromosome get to box as a female (woman are XX, men XY)

 

Don't even need a DNA test, it's obviously a man

 

You don't actually know if she's a man. 

If a woman looks manly, does that mean she's a man?

If a man looks feminine, does that mean he's a woman?

Mark Spitz was born with a perfect swimmer's body.

Should he have been excluded from competing?

I well understand the debate about trans people in sports.

This isn't that, is it?

My understanding is that the IOC has totally rejected the previous rejection of the two controversial athletes as bogus. 

Everyone wants fairness.

But you also need to be fair to all athletes too, including ones that don't look right to you.

 

Just now, Jingthing said:

You don't actually know if she's a man. 

If a woman looks manly, does that mean she's a man?

If a man looks feminine, does that mean he's a woman?

Mark Spitz was born with a perfect swimmer's body.

Should he have been excluded from competing?

I well understand the debate about trans people in sports.

This isn't that, is it?

"He" was DNA tested at last year's world championships and was disqualified because "he" had man XY Chromosomes. So yeah, I know "he" is a man

1 minute ago, Pattaya57 said:

"He" was DNA tested at last year's world championships and was disqualified because "he" had man XY Chromosomes. So yeah, I know "he" is a man

The IOC has rejected the validity of those tests.

So stop acting like this is a clear black and white situation.

It is not. 

Again by your logic Mark Spitz should have been disqualified because he was born with genetic advantages.

If the athletes were born females, they are females, right?

Or do you have a problem defining what is a woman?

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The IOC has rejected the validity of those tests.

So stop acting like this is a clear black and white situation.

It is not. 

The IOC said the only test they do to determine whether male or female is to check what their passport says. So IOC have no credibility whatsoever.

Just now, Pattaya57 said:

The IOC said the only test they do to determine whether male or female is to check what their passport says. So IOC have no credibility whatsoever.

Prove that with a source. 

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Prove that with a source. 

Mate it's stated in so many articles about the IOC response. Here's one example of so many saying passport is only check 

 

The organization added "with previous Olympic boxing competitions, the gender and age of the athletes are based on their passport," 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ioc-defends-olympic-boxers-gender-eligibility-controversy-amid-firestorm

 

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The IOC has rejected the validity of those tests.

So stop acting like this is a clear black and white situation.

It is not. 

Again by your logic Mark Spitz should have been disqualified because he was born with genetic advantages.

If the athletes were born females, they are females, right?

Or do you have a problem defining what is a woman?

 

so far no one here knows what is the facts, and it turns out to be a witch hunt. Easy to see how The Inquisition could take place or any other alike for something thats outside of the norm. 

 

Why do we have independent control organs preventing people from going over the top is understandable, and why we should be aware of the mechanisms which leads to prosecution of innnocent people. 

I would tend to give credibility to the IOC in matters related to athlete eligibility for the Olympics.

48 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I well understand the debate about trans people in sports.

This isn't that, is it?

 

it absolutely is. if youre born a he at birth you should not be in a she sport. end of argument

 

45 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If the athletes were born females, they are females, right?

Or do you have a problem defining what is a woman?

 

i thought we discussed that to the bone in my op about gender fluidity. ya can 'want' to be a man or a woman all ya want but you will only be what you are born to be and that is determined by what you are born between your legs at birth. if science didnt develop the scalpel there never would have been sex changes.

3 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

 

it absolutely is. if youre born a he at birth you should not be in a she sport. end of argument

 

 

i thought we discussed that to the bone in my op about gender fluidity. ya can 'want' to be a man or a woman all ya want but you will only be what you are born to be and that is determined by what you are born between your legs at birth. if science didnt develop the scalpel there never would have been sex changes.

I haven't read a single thing saying the two controversial looking too manly athletes are transgender. Have you?

If so, please post the proof

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I would tend to give credibility to the IOC in matters related to athlete eligibility for the Olympics.

So you stay supporting the IOC as is your right but it seems most of the rest of the social media world think it's a disgrace and has ruined boxing at this Olympics

 

1 minute ago, Pattaya57 said:

So you stay supporting the IOC as is your right. It seems most of the rest of the social media world think it's a disgrace

I want it to be looked at but I reject witch hunts based on superficial appearances.

I'm seeing this as different than about transgender athletes.

If it was proven they were transgender I would understand saying they shouldn't be allowed to compete.

But I've seen zero evidence that they are transgender.

Back to what I said about Mark Spitz.

Look at his body and if you know about swimming you know he had an "unfair" advantage.

So again just looking too manly is no grounds for disqualification. 

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I haven't read a single thing saying the two controversial looking too manly athletes are transgender. Have you?

If so, please post the proof

 

for now, the proof still remains well hidden. IMHO this story is too big and is upsetting the whole world that i believe some reporter, or acquaintance will reveal the truth soon enough. i will wait and see. but, looking at them it is undeniable they are men. wait and see

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I want it to be looked at but I reject witch hunts based on superficial appearances.

I'm seeing this as different than about transgender athletes.

If it was proven they were transgender I would understand saying they shouldn't be allowed to compete.

But I've seen zero evidence that they are transgender.

 

It's nothing to do with being transgender. Two "females" were disqualified last year because they had way too high testosterone and were DNA tested as men with XY chromosomes.

 

If someone has a Y chromosome they are a man. How can you defend that these same two "DNA tested as men" are now allowed to beat up women in the Olympic boxing ring?

 

Unsurprisingly the two "DNA tested as men" will now win gold medals in women's boxing. 

 

I think it's hilarious that the wierdos got all triggered because they thought the opening ceremonies were too gay.  😂

 

 

Waiting for this as the next IOC sanctioned fight

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/keHAZNN8iPpX6kFE/?mibextid=D5vuiz

 

 

I would vote Trump, but do people seriously think Algeria recognizes trans men.

 

Dumb thread, so maybe I'd vote Kamala

It is very clear the IOC is ideology driven as it has recently emphasized that boxing has reached "gender parity" with 124 boxers of male and female gender. However in the case of Khelif there are real doubts if she is a man or a woman, and they are not helped by the IOC keeping the gender tests SECRET. Nobody knows what was tested and how.

 

The Mark Spitz argument doesn't hold any water, since then you might as well enter a Cheetah in the 100 metres, oh it's not problem it it has a genetic advantage. You have male and female categories, and you have to decide if an athlete qualifies for one or the other competition.

9 minutes ago, Celsius said:

I would vote Trump, but do people seriously think Algeria recognizes trans men.

 

Dumb thread, so maybe I'd vote Kamala

Great point.

No way they would change the gender for a trans person.

Maybe she's a freak but she's a female freak.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It is very clear the IOC is ideology driven as it has recently emphasized that boxing has reached "gender parity" with 124 boxers of male and female gender. However in the case of Khelif there are real doubts if she is a man or a woman, and they are not helped by the IOC keeping the gender tests SECRET. Nobody knows what was tested and how.

 

The Mark Spitz argument doesn't hold any water, since then you might as well enter a Cheetah in the 100 metres, oh it's not problem it it has a genetic advantage. You have male and female categories, and you have to decide if an athlete qualifies for one or the other competition.

But you haven't proven they're males!!!!!

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

But you haven't proven they're males!!!!!

 

How does one proof if

 

21 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

the IOC keeping the gender tests SECRET. Nobody knows what was tested and how.

 

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Never seen a hairy broad before?

 

They are called men fantasising they are women

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

But you haven't proven they're males!!!!!

 

If they have a penis it's a male, not complicated

23 minutes ago, Celsius said:

I would vote Trump, but do people seriously think Algeria recognizes trans men.

 

Dumb thread, so maybe I'd vote Kamala

 

Since when do Canadians vote in the US elections? Troll much?