Pensioners can transition and be transgender, even if they have lived their entire life as one gender, according to new guidance provided to care homes. The advice, offered by researchers from the University of Kent, is part of a guide titled "Trans & Non-Binary Inclusion," which seeks to ensure that care homes are more inclusive towards older LGBTQ+ individuals.

 

The guide encourages care home staff to recognize the possibility of elderly people identifying as transgender later in life. It urges workers to familiarize themselves with what it means to be trans or non-binary and to respect people's pronouns and chosen names, regardless of what legal documentation might state.

 

However, this guidance, released in August 2024 in collaboration with the University of Surrey and the University of Hertfordshire, has sparked some criticism. A care worker from Somerset, speaking anonymously, expressed concerns about how the guidelines might clash with the beliefs of other residents, their families, or even the staff. "What about other residents or their families, or even care staff, that might have gender-critical beliefs?" the care worker questioned. “We know that those are protected under the Equality Act, so therefore nobody could be ‘made’ to use preferred pronouns.

 

We also have to consider single-sex provisions. A female resident might be sharing some facilities with a trans-identifying male. This could compromise her right to dignity and privacy, but most of all her safety.” The guide has also been criticized for ignoring certain challenges that transgender care home residents face, particularly those with dementia. A 2019 study by the University of Ottawa revealed that transgender people with dementia might forget they had transitioned and revert to identifying with their birth gender.

 

Helen Joyce, the director of advocacy at human rights charity Sex Matters, has voiced her opposition to the guide, stating: “This guidance for care homes is a shocking example of the way trans activism harms the most vulnerable in society. By imposing the fictions of gender identity ideology on gender-confused elderly people, it goes against the best interests of residents and staff.”

 

She highlighted concerns about the distress experienced by dementia patients, saying, "The evidence of people with dementia being distressed by changes to their body that they no longer understand, such as breast implants, is deeply upsetting. Rather than offering practical, compassionate advice on how to provide care in these difficult situations, this guide treats vulnerable residents as props in a fantasy of gender affirmation."

 

Despite the criticism, the University of Kent defends its work, explaining that the guide was created with input from older LGBTQ+ individuals and care providers. The university's larger research project, CIRCLE, which received funding from the National Institute for Health and Care Research, aims to address the unique challenges faced by older LGBTQ+ individuals in social care.

 

Dr. Jolie Keemink, who contributed to the guide, emphasized that “research shows that the older LGBTQ+ population is expected to rely more heavily on social care than their cis-gender, heterosexual counterparts because they are less likely to have children and more likely to experience a lack of social support."

 

The guide, which includes a poster to indicate a care home’s commitment to LGBTQ+ inclusion, will be available online and distributed at the Care Show, the UK's largest social care event, held in Birmingham in October. Dr. Keemink added, “There is an urgent need for improvements with regards to LGBTQ+ inclusion within care homes, and we hope that this guide can play a useful role in this.”

 

Credit: Daily Telegraph 2024-09-23

 

 

 

As if being in a care home until your impending demise wasn't bad enough...

Unlike ( apparently ) the people involved in this farce, I know people that work in care homes

1/ they are too busy to be worrying about which pronoun a resident may wish to be addressed as.

2/ they are too busy to be worrying about which pronoun a resident may wish to be addressed as.

3/ they are too busy to be worrying about which pronoun a resident may wish to be addressed as.

 

Not many are desperate enough to work in care homes given the work load and the pitiful wages. The ones that do don't need PC wish lists imposed on them making their job even harder.

 

The care workers are the ones that have contact with the inmates, as there might only be a single registered nurse to do the drugs etc.

 

If such a policy were introduced, the care homes will need to increase staff and have more than a basic level of training, which will increase costs for all inmates.

They need to be in care homes called mental asylums to keep them away from the normal elderly population.

Care Homes Urged to Embrace Transgender Identities in Elderly Care. 

 

What next hey, the nurses have  a difficult job as it is now .

Why complicate things with the Wanabees . More work. Extra Bathrooms to keep them separated  new rules and regulations  etc.

9 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Why complicate things with the Wanabees .

 

It makes them feel "special", and might even provide a route into the women's changing rooms. 

Once again, the Thais have this sorted simply.

Ladyboys are considered the “third gender” not women.

Put them in together, not with the men or the women. 
 

common bloody sense, no need for endless debates and university studies.

farangs are stupid

Edited September 23, 20241 yr by MalcolmB

16 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Once again, the Thais have this sorted simply.

Ladyboys are considered the “third gender” not women.

Put them in together, not with the men or the women. 

 

Yes it's a fairly obvious, common sense solution.

 

16 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

common bloody sense, no need for endless debates and university studies.

farangs are stupid

 

Not farangs. Liberals. Thailand is blessed to be mainly devoid of Liberals in the western (now hijacked) sense of the word, except in the expat population and they are smart enough to ignore those. 

Harmless mental disorder in some. 

The way I see it, if someone has had a lifetime of feeling trapped in the wrong gender, why not allow them, if they so desire, the peace of experiencing their final years as the gender they feel they should have been their whole lives. 

 

This is a very different argument to the one about juveniles - these are mature, experienced people who have had long to reflect on their circumstances. If it impacts nobody else, why not let them finally breathe freely? 

This will cause the gammons apoplexy.

I've got this vision of a couple of activist trans caretakers trying to push their ideology on an entire wing of their facility.

 

 

oh my god, even at old age people are forced this madness upon them

 

I always wonder if this is with tax payer's money or own pockets...

Guess it's not completely off topic.  Just noticed this while researching a vitamin supplement.  RDI / RDA for supplement.

 

Too funny.  Though I think I would have went with PwP & PwV (People with Penis or Vagina).  Save a letter.

 

 

To be in the medical field ...  guess you need to tread lightly when dealing with the alphabet folks 

On 9/23/2024 at 11:29 PM, RuamRudy said:

The way I see it, if someone has had a lifetime of feeling trapped in the wrong gender, why not allow them, if they so desire, the peace of experiencing their final years as the gender they feel they should have been their whole lives. 

 

This is a very different argument to the one about juveniles - these are mature, experienced people who have had long to reflect on their circumstances. If it impacts nobody else, why not let them finally breathe freely? 

No one is arguing against that. What is a problem is when other people are expected to play along with their IMO delusion.

If a resident wishes to wear a dress instead of pants that fine, just as long as the staff are not expected to do their make up and hairdo's.

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No one is arguing against that. What is a problem is when other people are expected to play along with their IMO delusion.

If a resident wishes to wear a dress instead of pants that fine, just as long as the staff are not expected to do their make up and hairdo's.

Oh. 
 

So you want these old folk to live lives based on your opinion.

 

If the staff’s duties include helping their clients with their makeup and hair why does it bother you which of the clients receive such help?

 

It’s a very odd thing to be bothered by given the other very much less pleasant duties cares in old folks homes have to deal with.

 

Edited October 4, 20241 yr by Chomper Higgot

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh. 
 

So you want these old folk to live lives based on your opinion.

 

If the staff’s duties include helping their clients with their make and hair why does it bother you which of the clients receive such help?

 

 

 

I wonder if they'll get hormone treatment as well, so that they can grow a cervix?

 

I thought that was impossible, but fortunately David Lammy has corrected me. Thanks David. Our country is in safe hands. 

 

 

care home or mental hospital?

12 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I wonder if they'll get hormone treatment as well, so that they can grow a cervix?

 

I thought that was impossible, but fortunately David Lammy has corrected me. Thanks David. Our country is in safe hands. 

 

 

On 9/23/2024 at 9:52 AM, proton said:

They need to be in care homes called mental asylums to keep them away from the normal elderly population.

So very true proton. These mentally ill people used to be housed in insane asylums until the Democrats wanted them released into the streets.

42 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Oh. 
 

So you want these old folk to live lives based on your opinion.

 

If the staff’s duties include helping their clients with their makeup and hair why does it bother you which of the clients receive such help?

 

It’s a very odd thing to be bothered by given the other very much less pleasant duties cares in old folks homes have to deal with.

 

Staff in care homes are badly paid and there are not enough of them to be spending time with any single patient. Of course you could volunteer to go and do makeup for any trans residents.

 

Secondly, it's likely that the staff don't agree with the transgender fad and while they will do what they have to, they will not want to do any more than they have to. I was lucky that such was never a problem for me, such never happened when I was in that job, and even I had to do time in the geriatric ward while in training to know that. All this trans stuff is quite recent and those that are that way tend to keep a low profile.

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Staff in care homes are badly paid and there are not enough of them to be spending time with any single patient. Of course you could volunteer to go and do makeup for any trans residents.

 

Secondly, it's likely that the staff don't agree with the transgender fad and while they will do what they have to, they will not want to do any more than they have to. I was lucky that such was never a problem for me, such never happened when I was in that job, and even I had to do time in the geriatric ward while in training to know that. All this trans stuff is quite recent and those that are that way tend to keep a low profile.

What bit of “If the staff’s duties include helping their clients with their makeup and hair” do you not understand?

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

I wonder if they'll get hormone treatment as well, so that they can grow a cervix?

 

I thought that was impossible, but fortunately David Lammy has corrected me. Thanks David. Our country is in safe hands. 

 

 

 

Why would you wonder that? Why is it even remotely relevant to you what other private individuals choose to legally do with their bodies? 

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What bit of “If the staff’s duties include helping their clients with their makeup and hair” do you not understand?

It's not the staff's job so it would not be included unless their job description was amended, and it was that that I was referencing, in case the management tried to include it.

 

I wonder how many care home staff you know personally? I know some and it 's an unappreciated job, hard work and very poorly paid.

On 9/23/2024 at 3:02 PM, MalcolmB said:

Once again, the Thais have this sorted simply.

Ladyboys are considered the “third gender” not women.

Put them in together, not with the men or the women. 
 

common bloody sense, no need for endless debates and university studies.

farangs are stupid

 

Do you have any pictures of the ladyboy wing in a Thai prison?

 

Do you have a scrap of evidence that Thai care homes have separate wings for ladyboys?

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's not the staff's job so it would not be included unless their job description was amended, and it was that that I was referencing, in case the management tried to include it.

 

I wonder how many care home staff you know personally? I know some and it 's an unappreciated job, hard work and very poorly paid.

So you dreaming up a grievance in somebody else’s behalf.

 

I’m sure you do know some carers.

 

I’ve expressed my opinion on the work vital work carers do and the under appreciation of their contribution elsewhere in the forum.

 

 

1 hour ago, bigt3116 said:

 

Do you have any pictures of the ladyboy wing in a Thai prison?

 

Do you have a scrap of evidence that Thai care homes have separate wings for ladyboys?

I don’t know why you would want photos but a search on line for news on the subject might help you out:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna713741

2 hours ago, bigt3116 said:

Do you have a scrap of evidence that Thai care homes have separate wings for ladyboys?

Unlikely that the need would arise in Thailand at this point in time as most would be unable to afford it.

 

https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/thailand/publication/caring-for-thailand-s-aging-population

Most in need of elder care continue to depend on family and community care as the institutional long-term care costs are high and most Thais cannot can afford it without government support.

2 hours ago, bigt3116 said:

 

Do you have any pictures of the ladyboy wing in a Thai prison?

 

Do you have a scrap of evidence that Thai care homes have separate wings for ladyboys?

 

Asked and answered 🙂

 

8 hours ago, bigt3116 said:

Do you have a scrap of evidence that Thai care homes have separate wings for ladyboys?

Yeah why?
 

https://thestandard.co/lgbtqia-elderly-welfare-deteriorates/