Question about drying before decarboxylation

[JackGats]

If I get it right you must first dry your stuff before decarboxylating. You can't put fresh non-dried buds into the oven at 110°C, otherwise they would kind of stew in their own water.

 

The recommendation is to hang the harvested autoflower bush to dry for weeks on end at room temperature. Why so long? I own a kitchen dehydrator like the ones for drying mushrooms, vegetable and herbs. Couldn't it be just the ticket to dry my buds? For herbs they recommend drying for 4 to 6 hours at 40°C. Would that do the trick for weed?

[NedR69]

NO!!!

 

Just order an Ardent FX and take the guess work out of decarbing and infusing.

 

Plug in play.  I have a 220volt for Thailand and a 110 volt for the US.

 

The oven method is not reliable and is not precise.  The Ardent FX is electronic controlled and extremely precise and to achieve results anything greater than this is gonna be crazy expensive commercial equipment.

 

An Ardent FX results in activating 97% to 100% decarb - you will NEVER get that with some home method.  The temp must be maintain precisely and residential ovens and thermometers can't achieve that level of precise activation.

 

No need to dry store bought weed, no need to grind it either.  Just dump it in the Ardent, press A1 for THC and wait for the light to turn green.  About 2 hours total to heat up, activate, then cool back down.  

 

AFter that, you can consume the weed or add your fav infusion and press the infuse button.  Same process, heat up, infuse, cool down.  I use the silicone sleeve when infusing, and without the sleeve when decarbing.  

 

I use virgin organic coconut oil for my infusions, but butter works great too if you're baking with it.  I get my coconut oil from Big C

 

https://ardentcannabis.com   My two FX models cost about $300 USD / 10k THB.  Worth every bit of money it costs.

Dishwasher safe, and I've put my US FX thru the dishwasher many times.  But if you use the silicone sleeve for infusing, I don't wash the FX, only the sleeve.  I've had the 110 volt FX for almost 4 years, and the 220 volt about 2 years.  

 

If you're a smoker, and really wanna get too high...ingest some infused oil, wait for the effect about 1/2 to 1 hour, then take your hits for a really stoned high.  If you've ever tried RSO, and used a little too much you'll know the feeling.  Too high for me, and I haven't took a puff in over a year.  Nothing but infused coconut oil.  I haven't made gummies in two years since moving to Thailand.  

 

I laugh at the stupid/uneducated that believe they can consume raw cannabis bud or leaf and get a buzz or any effect at alll.  BS, it's all in your head cause raw cannabis hasn't been activated.  Enjoy your oven method and the under or over activation results.  555555

[RSD1]

1 hour ago, NedR69 said:

NO!!!

 

Just order an Ardent FX and take the guess work out of decarbing and infusing.

 

Plug in play.  I have a 220volt for Thailand and a 110 volt for the US.

 

The oven method is not reliable and is not precise.  The Ardent FX is electronic controlled and extremely precise and to achieve results anything greater than this is gonna be crazy expensive commercial equipment.

 

An Ardent FX results in activating 97% to 100% decarb - you will NEVER get that with some home method.  The temp must be maintain precisely and residential ovens and thermometers can't achieve that level of precise activation.

 

No need to dry store bought weed, no need to grind it either.  Just dump it in the Ardent, press A1 for THC and wait for the light to turn green.  About 2 hours total to heat up, activate, then cool back down.  

 

AFter that, you can consume the weed or add your fav infusion and press the infuse button.  Same process, heat up, infuse, cool down.  I use the silicone sleeve when infusing, and without the sleeve when decarbing.  

 

I use virgin organic coconut oil for my infusions, but butter works great too if you're baking with it.  I get my coconut oil from Big C

 

https://ardentcannabis.com   My two FX models cost about $300 USD / 10k THB.  Worth every bit of money it costs.

Dishwasher safe, and I've put my US FX thru the dishwasher many times.  But if you use the silicone sleeve for infusing, I don't wash the FX, only the sleeve.  I've had the 110 volt FX for almost 4 years, and the 220 volt about 2 years.  

 

If you're a smoker, and really wanna get too high...ingest some infused oil, wait for the effect about 1/2 to 1 hour, then take your hits for a really stoned high.  If you've ever tried RSO, and used a little too much you'll know the feeling.  Too high for me, and I haven't took a puff in over a year.  Nothing but infused coconut oil.  I haven't made gummies in two years since moving to Thailand.  

 

I laugh at the stupid/uneducated that believe they can consume raw cannabis bud or leaf and get a buzz or any effect at alll.  BS, it's all in your head cause raw cannabis hasn't been activated.  Enjoy your oven method and the under or over activation results.  555555

LOL, OMG, you completely got that wrong. You didn't answer his question. He wasn't asking how to decarb. He was asking how to dry the weed before decarbing. He wants to dry out his harvest. 😂🤦🏻‍♂️👌🏼

[JackGats]

6 hours ago, NedR69 said:

NO!!!

 

Just order an Ardent FX and take the guess work out of decarbing and infusing.

 

Plug in play.  I have a 220volt for Thailand and a 110 volt for the US.

 

The oven method is not reliable and is not precise.  The Ardent FX is electronic controlled and extremely precise and to achieve results anything greater than this is gonna be crazy expensive commercial equipment.

 

An Ardent FX results in activating 97% to 100% decarb - you will NEVER get that with some home method.  The temp must be maintain precisely and residential ovens and thermometers can't achieve that level of precise activation.

 

No need to dry store bought weed, no need to grind it either.  Just dump it in the Ardent, press A1 for THC and wait for the light to turn green.  About 2 hours total to heat up, activate, then cool back down.  

 

AFter that, you can consume the weed or add your fav infusion and press the infuse button.  Same process, heat up, infuse, cool down.  I use the silicone sleeve when infusing, and without the sleeve when decarbing.  

 

I use virgin organic coconut oil for my infusions, but butter works great too if you're baking with it.  I get my coconut oil from Big C

 

https://ardentcannabis.com   My two FX models cost about $300 USD / 10k THB.  Worth every bit of money it costs.

Dishwasher safe, and I've put my US FX thru the dishwasher many times.  But if you use the silicone sleeve for infusing, I don't wash the FX, only the sleeve.  I've had the 110 volt FX for almost 4 years, and the 220 volt about 2 years.  

 

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Not what I was asking but thanks for pointing me to decarboxylators. I didn't know there existed dedicated contraptions to decarboxylate herbs.

[cheskakim]

Yeah, you're spot on about drying before decarbing. Fresh buds can definitely end up stewing if you toss them straight in the oven. Using a dehydrator can be a great way to speed up the drying process, but just keep an eye on the temperature. For weed, a lower temp around 40°C for a few hours should work, but it might not be as effective as air drying for longer periods. You want to preserve those terps! If you can, try hanging them for a few days to a week for the best flavor and potency. 

[JackGats]

I have another related query: can I skip the curing stage if the buds are destined for decarboxylation at high temperature? I mean dry then decarboxylate, instead of dry, cure and only then decarboxylate.

 

The curing stage looks to me like some kind of pre-decarboxylation anyway.

[ElwoodP]

8 minutes ago, JackGats said:

I have another related query: can I skip the curing stage if the buds are destined for decarboxylation at high temperature? I mean dry then decarboxylate, instead of dry, cure and only then decarboxylate.

 

The curing stage looks to me like some kind of pre-decarboxylation anyway.

Cannabis goes mouldy very quickly if not dried correctly, so no.

[blaze master]

3 minutes ago, ElwoodP said:

Cannabis goes mouldy very quickly if not dried correctly, so no.

 

So no what ? 

 

After the flower is dried (if done correctly) curing is irrelevant. 

[SamuiGrower]

2 hours ago, JackGats said:

The curing stage looks to me like some kind of pre-decarboxylation anyway.

Decarboxylation, conversion from THCa to THC, the psychoactive form, begins after harvest, from drying onwards. Drying and curing (without heat) is a slow, natural, linear process of decrboxylation.

 

It is not necessary to cure your flower for extraction. Curing, furthers decarboxylation but should be considered more for flavor development by degradation/conversion of chlorophyll, sugars and starches.

 

What is critical though, is thorough drying of your flower before decarboxylation for efficient conversion. A good friable, milled flower should be your starting point.

Edited November 2 by SamuiGrower