Sadiq ???

 

How did England fail so badly ???

I'm sure Trump would find it difficult and a total waste of time to give even a small, tiny, miniscule F$## about Khan.

Edited November 16, 20241 yr by youreavinalaff

1 hour ago, NickyLouie said:

Sadiq ???

 

How did England fail so badly ???

Please explain.

On 11/15/2024 at 9:04 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I do accept you probably have no idea at about the centuries of diversity which has defined the city of London and the whole of ‘British’ history.

 

Nonsense, the few thousand Huguenots aside, who were fellow christians, London has been almost entirely white indigenous until after WW2. There has been many lies recently in books by lying black activists and the BBC to claim Britain has always been diverse, it has all been debunked. The pathetic arguments about 'black' African Roman troops and a few ancient black burials have all been disproven. Sad that people are so desperate that they have to hijack others history.

36 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Nonsense, the few thousand Huguenots aside, who were fellow christians, London has been almost entirely white indigenous until after WW2. There has been many lies recently in books by lying black activists and the BBC to claim Britain has always been diverse, it has all been debunked. The pathetic arguments about 'black' African Roman troops and a few ancient black burials have all been disproven. Sad that people are so desperate that they have to hijack others history.

Ah, somebody else keen to display their ignorance on the matter of the diverse and multicultural history of London.

 

 

The World has gone to <deleted>.   

42 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Ah, somebody else keen to display their ignorance on the matter of the diverse and multicultural history of London.

 

 

 

There is not a history of a diverse London pre WW2, it's a lefty myth.

 

 

Edited November 16, 20241 yr by proton

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

It's fine until you venture into the ghettos, places like Tower Hamlets. You wouldn't want to be white and walking alone around that sh hole.

The Bangladeshi 'community' there gave me a very warm welcome about 15 years ago when I was walking back to my Isle of Dogs room alone. 6 kind young men relieved me of all my possessions at knifepoint. 

 

Maybe Khan can take Trump for a wander around Tower Hamlets after 9pm. 

 

I'm sorry that you got mugged but, unfortunately, it happens. However, it certainly doesn't prove that London as a whole is some crime-infested cesspit as some posters have suggested, or that London is a worse place to live than it was 40 years ago.

 

The demographics change. Imo most of South London is a much healthy and wealthier place to live compared with 40 years ago. Some areas (e.g. Tower Hamlets?) may be worse.

11 hours ago, RayC said:

 

I'm sorry that you got mugged but, unfortunately, it happens. However, it certainly doesn't prove that London as a whole is some crime-infested cesspit as some posters have suggested, or that London is a worse place to live than it was 40 years ago.

 

The demographics change. Imo most of South London is a much healthy and wealthier place to live compared with 40 years ago. Some areas (e.g. Tower Hamlets?) may be worse.

 

I lived in Woolwich and Eltham in the 90s and it was far safer than it is now. My local pub was 50 metres from where the Muslim guy practically beheaded Lee Rigby in broad daylight a few years ago.  

 

Couldn't pay me to live there now. Most of my friends have moved out to nearby counties. Hampstead is still OK. 

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Ah, somebody else keen to display their ignorance on the matter of the diverse and multicultural history of London.

 

Come, then. Demonstrate that 'ignorance' with some facts, rather than empty comment.

 

You know, things like -

• Catholics weren't allowed to live in London or hold public office until the The Catholic Relief Act of 1791.
• All Jews were booted out of England in 1290 through the Edict of Expulsion and were not allowed to return until 1656.
• The 1596 Elizabethan edict that authorised the Lord Mayor of London, amongst others, to “take up…Blackamoores here in this Realm and to transport them into Spain and Portugal" - although this also required the "consent of their masters”, which was invariably not forthcoming.

 

13 hours ago, proton said:

Nonsense, the few thousand Huguenots aside, who were fellow christians, London has been almost entirely white indigenous until after WW2. There has been many lies recently in books by lying black activists and the BBC to claim Britain has always been diverse, it has all been debunked. The pathetic arguments about 'black' African Roman troops and a few ancient black burials have all been disproven. Sad that people are so desperate that they have to hijack others history.

 

Yes, 'alternate history' is all the rage. Take that nonsensical faux-Regency series 'Bridgerton' as a classic example. It's ironic, of course, that if the Left narrative is one of historic racial oppression of ethnic minorities by the white majority, how does that square with a series that depicts said minorities as influential and respected equals in Regency England? Especially since I suspect many younger viewers will take it as fact. 

 

 

 

46 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I lived in Woolwich and Eltham in the 90s and it was far safer than it is now. My local pub was 50 metres from where the Muslim guy practically beheaded Lee Rigby in broad daylight a few years ago.  

 

Couldn't pay me to live there now. Most of my friends have moved out to nearby counties. Hampstead is still OK. 

 

Stating the obvious, London is a big place and there are many areas which I know very little about (especially NE London), and which might have deteriorated. However, the areas with which I am most familiar (Inner South London, Westminster, the City and parts of West London) are imo, on the whole, much better places to live/ work today compared with 40 years ago.

1 hour ago, BKKBike09 said:

• Catholics weren't allowed to live in London or hold public office until the The Catholic Relief Act of 1791.
• All Jews were booted out of England in 1290 through the Edict of Expulsion and were not allowed to return until 1656.
• The 1596 Elizabethan edict that authorised the Lord Mayor of London, amongst others, to “take up…Blackamoores here in this Realm and to transport them into Spain and Portugal" - although this also required the "consent of their masters”, which was invariably not forthcoming.

Thank you for providing the demonstration of facts you asked for.

 

The enactment of discriminatory laws against these cultural/religious/racial groups demonstrates their existence within British society at the time.

 

The ‘consent of masters’ being ‘invariably not given’ suggests opposition to bigoted laws is nothing new.

 

 

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Chomper Higgot

17 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

Sadiq ???

 

How did England fail so badly ???

 

45 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Thank you for providing the demonstration of facts you asked for.

 

The enactment of discriminatory laws against these cultural/religious/racial groups demonstrates their existence within British society at the time.

 

The ‘consent of masters’ being ‘invariably not given’ suggests opposition to bigoted laws is nothing new.

 

 

In what numbers though, as what percentage of the population? There is a huge difference between natural cosmopolitanism and top down enforced multiculturalism.

 

 

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by mokwit

I moved from East London to Islington in the eighties. These are different worlds.

15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Ah, somebody else keen to display their ignorance on the matter of the diverse and multicultural history of London.

London's history is not diverse and multicultural, that is just BS propaganda of the left.

here is a huge difference between natural cosmopolitanism and top down enforced multiculturalism.

 

On 11/15/2024 at 9:42 PM, AnnaBanana said:

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Should be writing him a 'plane ticket to somewhere more suited to his personality.

Remember the call for unity by Biden followed by four years of persecution? You don't accept the fake olive branch from the Left, you go after them and hunt them down (within the law). People who are pro mass unselective immigration should have their noses rubbed in it every time an immigrant commits a crime.

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by mokwit

On 11/15/2024 at 9:04 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I do accept you probably have no idea at about the centuries of diversity which has defined the city of London and the whole of ‘British’ history.

No we don't because it is a fabrication. London has always had a certain cosmopolitanism due to the geographic and thus ethnic diversity of the Empire and through being a major trading and cultural centre, but it was overwhelmingly White British. It was not "diverse" as that word is used by the Left.

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by mokwit

20 minutes ago, mokwit said:

It was not "diverse" as that word is used by the Left.

And yet here I am on the left using that word ‘diverse’.

 

What was it being scrawled on the walls in White Chappell during the ripper killings. 
 

That too is part of London’s history that persists.

 

 

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Chomper Higgot

16 hours ago, proton said:

 

Nonsense, the few thousand Huguenots aside, who were fellow christians, London has been almost entirely white indigenous until after WW2. There has been many lies recently in books by lying black activists and the BBC to claim Britain has always been diverse, it has all been debunked. The pathetic arguments about 'black' African Roman troops and a few ancient black burials have all been disproven. Sad that people are so desperate that they have to hijack others history.

Bangladeshis settled in Whitechapel (now Tower Hamlets) and Caribbean people in West London and SW areas wasn't until the late 1940's/50's. I lived in E11 in the '80's which was being deliberately turned into a Pakistani Muslim area from white working class. Finsbury Park wasn't the Turkish area, etc etc.

 

Prior to WW2 you might well see an African for example wandering around the Inns of Court, and if you enquired you might find he was a barrister in training being trained in London to go back and practice in his native country. Ghandi was born in India, trained in London and practiced in S Africa. The British empire was not as the Left describes it.

50 minutes ago, mokwit said:

I lived in E11 in the '80's which was being deliberately turned into a Pakistani Muslim area from white working class.

Deliberately?

 

 

On 11/17/2024 at 10:54 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Thank you for providing the demonstration of facts you asked for.

 

The enactment of discriminatory laws against these cultural/religious/racial groups demonstrates their existence within British society at the time.

 

The ‘consent of masters’ being ‘invariably not given’ suggests opposition to bigoted laws is nothing new.

 

Good. At least now you recognise that London's historical diversity and multiculturalism was not particularly diverse from an ethnic perspective.

 

Also, "The ‘consent of masters’ being ‘invariably not given’ suggests opposition to bigoted laws is nothing new" suggests nothing of the sort; people who had coloured servants just didn't want to give them up. 

 

4 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

 

Good. At least now you recognise that London's historical diversity and multiculturalism was not particularly diverse from an ethnic perspective.

 

Also, "The ‘consent of masters’ being ‘invariably not given’ suggests opposition to bigoted laws is nothing new" suggests nothing of the sort; people who had coloured servants just didn't want to give them up. 

 

When did I agree London was not diverse from an ethnic perspective?