Rwanda Deportation Scheme: £50 Million Spent on Flights That Never Took Off

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, transam said:

Of course, you don't, and of course Labour are dealing with it.........😂

 

3,000,000 signatures say different, chap...............🤔

Well 3,000,000 online post code entries.

They’re not actual signatures and could be by anyone.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, The Cyclist said:

 

You thought wrong

 

 

You would probably think it was offensive, if I said, if he had not overstayed his visa, he would not have been on the train and would not have been shot in the head.

 

A fact, probably not a nice fact, but a fact nonetheless.

Didn’t you just completely contradict yourself?

 

Yes you did.

[The Cyclist]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Its not a precedent at all, as it was a one off mistake .

 

It was a one of mistake for JCdM, 600 Brazilians just repatriated suggest it is not a one off, by a long shot.

 

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

There have been clampdowns of  fasle education visas and marriage visas and its been made difficult for illegal people to remain in the U.K.

 

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well 3,000,000 online post code entries.

They’re not actual signatures and could be by anyone.

 

And so the lefty excuses begin..........................🤣

[The Cyclist]

1 hour ago, The Cyclist said:

will ask you again, in what weird world of academia is 649 repatriations against 20,000 illegal arrivals a positive improvement ?
 

A net increase of some 19, 341 is neither dealing with the problem or making positive improvements.

 

C'mon Professor @Chomper Higgot stop throwing chaff, and give us the benefit of those amazing academic institutions that you attended.

[Nick Carter icp]

6 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

It was a one of mistake for JCdM, 600 Brazilians just repatriated suggest it is not a one off, by a long shot.

 

 

Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better.

 

   The Police shooting of Charles De Menezes didn't set a precedent , because it was a one off that didn't happen again  .

   Brazilians getting deported and Brazilians getting killed by the UK Police are two very different things .

    They have indeed been clampdowns on illegal people in the UK .

Read all about it here :

 

 

"The policy has been cited as one of the harshest immigration policies in the history of the United Kingdom, and has been widely criticised as inhumane, ineffective, and unlawful"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Office_hostile_environment_policy

 

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

"More than 600 Brazilians deported by Home Office on three secret flights

Record number of deportees includes children who may have spent most of their lives in the UK"

Easy targets. Nobody in the UK is bothered about Brazillian overstayers. 

If Labour start returning the thousands of young men of a certain faith who come over in boats, then it'll be time to praise them. 

[The Cyclist]

Just now, CG1 Blue said:

Easy targets. Nobody in the UK is bothered about Brazillian overstayers. 

If Labour start returning the thousands of young men of a certain faith who come over in boats, then it'll be time to praise them. 

 

Exactly

[The Cyclist]

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 The Police shooting of Charles De Menezes didn't set a precedent , because it was a one off that didn't happen again  .

   Brazilians getting deported and Brazilians getting killed by the UK Police are two very different things .

 

I didn't say or suggest otherwise. I did say very specifically a high profile precedent had occured with regards to Brazilian overstayers.

 

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

"The policy has been cited as one of the harshest immigration policies in the history of the United Kingdom, and has been widely criticised as inhumane, ineffective, and unlawful"

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Office_hostile_environment_policy

 

Sorry. Wiki does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling as being a true and accurate source of information.

 

20,000 illegal arrivals since July does not suggest a hostile environment.

 

Putting them up in hotels at a cost estimated to be IRO £15 million a day does not suggest a hostile environment.

 

The Tories can take the blame, Labour can take the blame for not only continuing with it, but for opening up even more hotels, which will increase the pulling power of trying to get to the UK.

Edited 16 hours ago by The Cyclist

[novacova]

20 minutes ago, transam said:

And so the lefty excuses begin..........................🤣

🥱.................Boring, you and others are really into your 'left' thingy.........😃

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

I didn't say or suggest otherwise. I did say very specifically a high profile precedent had occured with regards to Brazilian overstayers.

 

 

 

   Charles De Menezes was shot dead by Police in 2006.

That episode had absolutely nothing to do with deportations in 2024.

The UK Police didn't even think that he was Brazilian and its just a coincidence that CDM and the latests deported people are from the same Country 

 

   Precedent means :

 

*an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances.*

[transam]

4 minutes ago, novacova said:

🥱.................Boring, you and others are really into your 'left' thingy.........😃

Chummy, the UK  Government, Labour Party is the Lefty Party, didn't you know that..................😂

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

.20,000 illegal arrivals since July does not suggest a hostile environment.

 

Putting them up in hotels at a cost estimated to be IRO £15 million a day does not suggest a hostile environment.

 

   Those are Asylum seekers who wouldn't be in the U.K illegally .

The Government policies of making life difficult for illegal immigrants is aimed at people in the UK illegally , rather than legal Asylum seekers .

   You are getting overstayers /illegal immigrants and asylum seekers mixed up 

 

[novacova]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Chummy, the UK  Government, Labour Party is the Lefty Party, didn't you know that..................😂

Yes dear chummy I knew that as with most westerners 👍

[The Cyclist]

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Those are Asylum seekers who wouldn't be in the U.K illegally .

 

Of course they are Asylum seekers.

 

Now if they were woman and children I would probably agree with you. When the majority of them are fighting age males, the asylum claim washes right over my head.

[transam]

Just now, novacova said:

Yes dear chummy I knew that as with most westerners 👍

Then why the boring lefty thing, it is a fact, that the Labour Party gets into power then balls things up.

 

Just in a couple of weeks 3,000,000 have signed up to get rid of the Corbynite, IRA defender, that should tell you something......

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Of course they are Asylum seekers.

 

Now if they were woman and children I would probably agree with you. When the majority of them are fighting age males, the asylum claim washes right over my head.

 

   I am talking about people in the UK illegally .

You are talking about people in the UK legally .

We are talking about two different things 

[The Cyclist]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You are talking about people in the UK legally .

 

You lost me. Who am I talking about being in the UK legally ?
 

Are you referring to the fake Asylum seekers flocking across the channel ?
 

Yes, I believe that at least 95% of them are in the UK illegally, as they are not Asylum seekers, they are economic migrants, who would not qualify for. visa if they tried to come legally, so fake asylum claims it is.

 

When there is a handful of men, assisting 1000's and 1000's of woman and children across the channel, then I may just change mind, until then, no chance.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

You lost me. Who am I talking about being in the UK legally ?
 

Are you referring to the fake Asylum seekers flocking across the channel ?
 

Yes, I believe that at least 95% of them are in the UK illegally, as they are not Asylum seekers, they are economic migrants, who would not qualify for. visa if they tried to come legally, so fake asylum claims it is.

 

When there is a handful of men, assisting 1000's and 1000's of woman and children across the channel, then I may just change mind, until then, no chance.

 

   Yes, the people who come across in dinghies claim asylum and are then in the UK legally whilst their application for asylum is processed and then if the are not granted asylum and they remain in the UK , it would be THEN that they become illegal in the UK

[CG1 Blue]

7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, the people who come across in dinghies claim asylum and are then in the UK legally whilst their application for asylum is processed and then if the are not granted asylum and they remain in the UK , it would be THEN that they become illegal in the UK

It doesn't really matter how you frame it. 

 

What most people in the UK want is an end to the thousands of young fighting age men of a certain faith coming over in boats to milk the UK asylum system. Call them legal , call them illegal, call them whatever you like. It needs to stop. 

 

Ireland have managed to start sending them back to the UK. 

 

What have Labour done so far about those economic migrants? Cancelled the only plan that may have discouraged the channel crossings. Unsurprisingly the numbers coming over are rising again. 

[Nick Carter icp]

22 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

It doesn't really matter how you frame it. 

 

What most people in the UK want is an end to the thousands of young fighting age men of a certain faith coming over in boats to milk the UK asylum system. Call them legal , call them illegal, call them whatever you like. It needs to stop. 

 

Ireland have managed to start sending them back to the UK. 

 

What have Labour done so far about those economic migrants? Cancelled the only plan that may have discouraged the channel crossings. Unsurprisingly the numbers coming over are rising again. 

 

   You can say *Muslim* if you want to , its not a banned word 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

It doesn't really matter how you frame it. 

 

What most people in the UK want is an end to the thousands of young fighting age men of a certain faith coming over in boats to milk the UK asylum system. Call them legal , call them illegal, call them whatever you like. It needs to stop. 

 

Ireland have managed to start sending them back to the UK. 

 

What have Labour done so far about those economic migrants? Cancelled the only plan that may have discouraged the channel crossings. Unsurprisingly the numbers coming over are rising again. 

Links have been provided above on the hundreds of migrants Labour have deported.

 

The Rwanda plan was not working, although those I receipt of the vast sums of public money it dispersed to Government chums for doing nothing at all will disagree.

[Red Forever]

16 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

 

You thought wrong

 

 

You would probably think it was offensive, if I said, if he had not overstayed his visa, he would not have been on the train and would not have been shot in the head.

 

A fact, probably not a nice fact, but a fact nonetheless.

Please tell me Cyclist. Are these Brazilians in the room with you at the moment?