Bangkokians Dub State Efforts to Combat PM2.5 as Ineffective: Poll

[CLW]

On 2/3/2025 at 12:57 PM, superal said:

Why do you ask , what is the relevance ?

The reason I'm asking if he's ever seen the traffic in Thailand. And secondly if he knows of the widespread nepotism in Thai society? Do you really think all the owners of businesses and shopping malls in Bangkok downtown would welcome a massive restriction of cars coming in ?

[Will B Good]

Bangkokians Dub State Efforts to Combat PM2.5 as Ineffective

 

How totally unappreciative of the sterling efforts being made.....masks, rooms with filtered air, work from home, free public transport......you just cannot please some people.

 

I see flights are now being diverted as the smoke is so thick it is not safe to attempt a landing at Don Mueang.

[superal]

4 hours ago, CLW said:

The reason I'm asking if he's ever seen the traffic in Thailand. And secondly if he knows of the widespread nepotism in Thai society? Do you really think all the owners of businesses and shopping malls in Bangkok downtown would welcome a massive restriction of cars coming in ?

I do not live in Bangkok but I have been there many times and been stuck in traffic jams often . Nepotism and corruption will have to take a back seat if there is to be a remedy of air pollution and too many vehicles . Parking is also an issue and even large shopping mall car parks can be full . There must be businesses that suffer because of the lack of parking . There is no doubt that Bangkok is a toxic city at a dangerous level . The authorities are aware of the vehicles spewing out black smoke but do nothing about it . Electric buses and taxis use to be promoted and a levy on other vehicles wanting to enter the city . 

ULEZ does work , as proven in many countries and various cities in the UK .

[CLW]

14 hours ago, superal said:

Nepotism and corruption will have to take a back seat if there is to be a remedy of air pollution and too many vehicles

Almost spit out my coffee 🤣🤣🤣

[bamnutsak]

On 2/3/2025 at 7:16 AM, Red Forever said:

Free public transport in order to reduce car usage and emissions.

That’s a positive step.

 

For five (5) days.

 

With a price tag of 140 million baht (planned), with some (DoT minister) saying it was closer to 190 million baht.

 

 

I think it was a good experiment but probably not sustainable. A bit like using boat propellers to repel floods, or rainmaking to eliminate air pollution.

 

 

[superal]

17 hours ago, superal said:

I do not live in Bangkok but I have been there many times and been stuck in traffic jams often . Nepotism and corruption will have to take a back seat if there is to be a remedy of air pollution and too many vehicles . Parking is also an issue and even large shopping mall car parks can be full . There must be businesses that suffer because of the lack of parking . There is no doubt that Bangkok is a toxic city at a dangerous level . The authorities are aware of the vehicles spewing out black smoke but do nothing about it . Electric buses and taxis use to be promoted and a levy on other vehicles wanting to enter the city . 

ULEZ does work , as proven in many countries and various cities in the UK .

Further more , most private cars in Bangkok carry the driver only but to be generous lets say 2 passengers .

 A Bangkok bus can take 60 to 120 passengers . So 90 on an average .  Given 2 passengers to a car that would take 45 cars off the road .  Bangkok runs 3000 buses . Of course there would have to be " Park & Ride facilities " .

[Will B Good]

3 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

 

For five (5) days.

 

With a price tag of 140 million baht (planned), with some (DoT minister) saying it was closer to 190 million baht.

 

 

I think it was a good experiment but probably not sustainable. A bit like using boat propellers to repel floods, or rainmaking to eliminate air pollution.

 

 

 

Maybe they should have dropped the price to a level where the expected increase in travellers times the lower price at least came to the something like the same level of revenue........but that would never compete with 'free' travel I suppose.