Trump’s Threats Push Greenlanders Closer to Denmark

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President Trump has frequently said that he covets Greenland, a self-ruled part of the Danish kingdom, for its strategic position in the warming Arctic and largely untapped natural resources. In this pursuit, the White House had hoped to capitalize on the resentment that many Greenlanders feel about Denmark’s colonial legacy...

But for now, at least, this pressure from Washington has had an opposite effect on the 56,600 Greenlanders, most of whom are indigenous Inuit people who jealously guard their culture. In recent weeks, Greenland and Denmark have moved closer together as officials in Nuuk and Copenhagen sought to reinvigorate their relationship and to look with fresh eyes at outstanding problems.

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[Will B Good]

The problem is, with only 56,600 Greenlanders, the US could pay them all off (or 51% of them?)........are they going to refuse a million dollars a piece?

[blaze master]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

The problem is, with only 56,600 Greenlanders, the US could pay them all off (or 51% of them?)........are they going to refuse a million dollars a piece?

 

A lot of people would take the money let's be realistic right. 

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

 

A lot of people would take the money let's be realistic right. 

 

Exactly.....I would for sure.

[JAG]

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

The problem is, with only 56,600 Greenlanders, the US could pay them all off (or 51% of them?)........are they going to refuse a million dollars a piece?

The United State's record with keeping promises to  and paying off/compensating indigenous peoples is not particularly good historically.

 

57 million dollars is not, in the big picture, such a large amount; however if promised would it ever materialise?

[blaze master]

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Exactly.....I would for sure.

 

I'll become American for a million bucks. 

 

Fore score and seven blunts ago....

[MicroB]

9 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

A lot of people would take the money let's be realistic right. 

 

$1m is about what it took for the British to get Benedict Arnold to become a traitor. Ames took $2.5m to become a traitor. By the sounds of it, most Americans, at least those living in Thailand, would quite happily become a Mao suit wearing, little red booking waving member of the Red Army for price of an apartment in London. They must need the money it seems. How much do they want to perform in a donkey show? $20 should cover it. They won't be the donkey.

 

Greenland since 2009 has Home Rule. They voted to have legislation where they retain full voting rights in the Danish Parliament. For independance, they need to hold a referendum, securing 66% of the vote, AND secure the support of the Danish Parliament. The Referendum will not be a Yes/No question, because the choices are 4-fold; stay with Denmark with voting rights, become an independent state with full voting rights, become a vassal state of the US with no voting rights (aka unincorporated territory) or become a state with full voting rights.  Not only that, you have the issue of overcoming the 1917 Treaty between the US and Denmark, where it was agreed to give the United Kingdom the right of first refusal if the question of sovereignty ever came up.

 

So you have to come up with a number for 66% of Greenlanders to go to the grave as traitors. Everyone has a price. For Americans, the price to become a raging member of the Red Hoard is $1m. Plus you have to bribe the Danish Parliamnet. then bribe the UK.

 

Someone in the forum thinks $1000,000x56,000= $56,000,000. Not really.  $56 billion not $56 million. And thats not including getting anything out of the ground. And then you find out the consultants bigged up the numbers.

 

The global market for rare earths is about $4 billion. Its going to rise to about $8 billion in 10 years time. This is what Amazon spends on its Cloud computing services. The 2035 Rare Earths market in 10 years time will be worth about the same as the combined angle grinder and door bell market.

 

Rare earth metals are not rare.

 

This illustrates the sheer financial idiocy of those suggesting paying Greenlanders $1million.

 

They are so much smitten with American Lebensraum, they forget America is a capitalist nation with corporations. They forget that Greenland sells mining licences. They forget that its public British and American mining companies who hold these licences. They forget that companies acquire other companies all the time.

[MicroB]

7 hours ago, JAG said:

The United State's record with keeping promises to  and paying off/compensating indigenous peoples is not particularly good historically.

 

57 million dollars is not, in the big picture, such a large amount; however if promised would it ever materialise?

 

Someone going to tell JAG? I think you meant 57 million baht or HK $.

[MicroB]

8 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Exactly.....I would for sure.

 

Would you sell your mother?

 

[blaze master]

24 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

$1m is about what it took for the British to get Benedict Arnold to become a traitor. Ames took $2.5m to become a traitor. By the sounds of it, most Americans, at least those living in Thailand, would quite happily become a Mao suit wearing, little red booking waving member of the Red Army for price of an apartment in London. They must need the money it seems. How much do they want to perform in a donkey show? $20 should cover it. They won't be the donkey.

 

Greenland since 2009 has Home Rule. They voted to have legislation where they retain full voting rights in the Danish Parliament. For independance, they need to hold a referendum, securing 66% of the vote, AND secure the support of the Danish Parliament. The Referendum will not be a Yes/No question, because the choices are 4-fold; stay with Denmark with voting rights, become an independent state with full voting rights, become a vassal state of the US with no voting rights (aka unincorporated territory) or become a state with full voting rights.  Not only that, you have the issue of overcoming the 1917 Treaty between the US and Denmark, where it was agreed to give the United Kingdom the right of first refusal if the question of sovereignty ever came up.

 

So you have to come up with a number for 66% of Greenlanders to go to the grave as traitors. Everyone has a price. For Americans, the price to become a raging member of the Red Hoard is $1m. Plus you have to bribe the Danish Parliamnet. then bribe the UK.

 

Someone in the forum thinks $1000,000x56,000= $56,000,000. Not really.  $56 billion not $56 million. And thats not including getting anything out of the ground. And then you find out the consultants bigged up the numbers.

 

The global market for rare earths is about $4 billion. Its going to rise to about $8 billion in 10 years time. This is what Amazon spends on its Cloud computing services. The 2035 Rare Earths market in 10 years time will be worth about the same as the combined angle grinder and door bell market.

 

Rare earth metals are not rare.

 

This illustrates the sheer financial idiocy of those suggesting paying Greenlanders $1million.

 

They are so much smitten with American Lebensraum, they forget America is a capitalist nation with corporations. They forget that Greenland sells mining licences. They forget that its public British and American mining companies who hold these licences. They forget that companies acquire other companies all the time.

 

Put a briefcase with cash in front of the Greenland people one by one. Most would sell out.