I was thinking not wasting time to personal attacks but here we go. You're not making an argument. You're just doing the classic coward's pivot. When you can't refute the point you attack and invent a cartoon version of what I wrote. Nobody proposed "leveling the whole of Iran and killing millions." That's your fantasy, not the position. Straw-manning like that is what people do when they have nothing left. "Put on a uniform" is the oldest empty insult in the book. By that logic, no civilian is allowed to have an opinion on crime, taxation, borders, or foreign policy unless they've personally gone and done the job. That's not seriousness that's just a way to silence people you disagree with (or are unable to counter). You ask if I'm willing to "pay for a permanent US presence" and "send my children." The people who actually end up paying and sending their kids are the ones who get stuck in the forever wars that come from not dealing with threats when they're smaller. Weakness and hesitation have a body count too. History is full of it. Go study it. Talk is cheap? Correct. So is moral preening from the sidelines while pretending that every hard option is cartoonishly extreme. You didn't refute anything. You just have shown outrage and hoped it would substitute for an argument. If you have an actual counter on the strategic point, make it. The personal attacks and invented extremes just show you don't have one.