The effects Israel's aggressive war against Iran will have on you

[Cameroni]

For a start, oil prices are already going up, so it will cost more to fill the tank in your car. If Iran closes the straight of Hormuz, 20% of the world's daily oil will be held up, which would have repercussions for the world economy as manufacturers depend on oil to this day, thus prices will go up. 

 

Obviously the war will further drive prices up, as it makes supply chains even more precarious. Even tourist travel is affected, as Thai airlines now cannot fly over the middle eastern areas affected. The result are considerable delays in air travel.

 

Israelis will most likely be affected as more nations will prohibit the entry of Israelis, or Israelis who served in the IDF.

 

The dollar will most likely be affected and go up, as it usually does during war times, which in turn will bring down other currencies worldwide.

 

Iran will most likely accelerate its nuclear weapon acquisition which Israel will be unable to prevent, as Iran has thousands of nuclear scientists and will just hide nuclear sites going forward. Pakistan has already said it will attack Israel if Israel unleashes a nuclear weapon on Iran. So the risk of nuclear war has gone up dramatically.

 

In what other ways will Israel's aggressive war affect you and the wider world?

[hotsun]

Im concerned about how i will get my matzah ball soup and hebrew national hot dogs after this

[TedG]

Israel won't nuke Iran; they control the airspace over Iran.   

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, TedG said:

Israel won't nuke Iran; they control the airspace over Iran.   

 

I don't think so either, though, it will depend on how things progress in the conflict. The Iranians have hit Israel surprisingly easily despite the "Iron" dome, which is clearly more of a nylon mesh dome.

 

At the moment Israel would not use a nuclear device. However, it looks like Iran is sending tons of old missiles Israel's way to deplete Israel's reserves and the intention is to strike later with the more powerful newer rockets.

 

If Iran does close the straight of Hormuz and the US get involved it could quickly become existential for Iran, who could then do some really reckless things. Which could prompt Israel to become reckless in turn. Well, even more reckless.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I don't think so either, though, it will depend on how things progress in the conflict. The Iranians have hit Israel surprisingly easily despite the "Iron" dome, which is clearly more of a nylon mesh dome.

 

At the moment Israel would not use a nuclear device. However, it looks like Iran is sending tons of old missiles Israel's way to deplete Israel's reserves and the intention is to strike later with the more powerful newer rockets.

 

If Iran does close the straight of Hormuz and the US get involved it could quickly become existential for Iran, who could then do some really reckless things. Which could prompt Israel to become reckless in turn. Well, even more reckless.

 

   Israel will target Iran's missile launch sites and Iran will lose the battle

[Cameroni]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel will target Iran's missile launch sites and Iran will lose the battle

 

I'm sure they will, but even if Israel hits some missile launch sites, as regards nuclear missiles, the Iranians will simply hide their facitilies deep in the mountains going foward and keep them hidden. Iran has thousands of nuclear scientists. This attack on Iran has surely driven home to the Iranians that they need a nuclear weapon now, no matter what. 

 

So even if Israel wins this battle initially, in the long run Israel will lose the war. The Israeli army is not strong enough to occupy all of Iran. 

 

This initial attack was a little bit like Pearl Harbour for the Japanese, who celebrated and thought they had already won, only to find out later down the line, it was not the case. Israel will be in a similar position, it will just take a little longer.

 

I can see the logic from Israel's perspective, Iran had been the financier of all the enemies of Israel, so it's little wonder that Israel want to take out Iran. However, they do not have the capability to do so in the long run.

[Cameroni]

Even now, Nantaz's underground enrichment halls have not been damaged.

 

Iran's second uranium enrichment facility at Fordo cannot be destroyed by any Israeli weapons, except nuclear weapons. The US has so far said the bunker buster bomb is not going to be provided to Israel.

 

So whilst Israel has hit a few targets, they have not acomplished the main mission, to take out the uranium enrichment facilities.

 

https://apnews.com/article/bunker-buster-bomb-israel-iran-fordo-fordow-b2-nuclear-8a612cbf16aa0f99bd9992334ffc93d7

[MalcolmB]

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel will target Iran's missile launch sites and Iran will lose the battle

The Israelis have attacked a civilian hospital in Iran despite saying they are only sending precision strikes to military areas.

Iran have got a few bombs into Israeli citizen areas which are starting to resemble Gaza now.

 

[MalcolmB]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So whilst Israel has hit a few targets, they have not acomplished the main mission, to take out the uranium enrichment facilities.

It won’t be long before they start trotting out the “human shield” narrative for the woman and child deaths.

[MalcolmB]

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

can see the logic from Israel's perspective, Iran had been the financier of all the enemies of Israel, so it's little wonder that Israel want to take out Iran. However, they do not have the capability to do so in the long run.

This will go on for hundreds more years.

There can be only one.

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

It won’t be long before they start trotting out the “human shield” narrative for the woman and child deaths.

 

It was just reported on the news that the majority of Iranian casulaties are women and children. Very tragic for Iranian families.

[NickyLouie]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

It was just reported on the news that the majority of Iranian casulaties are women and children. Very tragic for Iranian families.

 

 

Blah blah BLAH , go cry in Gaza - go make something of yourself ....

 

[Cameroni]

Just now, MalcolmB said:

This will go on for hundreds more years.

There can be only one.

 

Israel may win the initial battles now, but for sure Iran will regroup, rebuild its nuclear program and get the nuclear bomb. It is an existential issue for Iran now, given that Israel has nuclear weapons.

 

The Israeli army is too small numerically to occupy Iran. It could never happen. To take out the nuclear enrichment facilities the IDF has to use a nuclear weapon, or get the US bunker buster bomb or perhaps mount a major commando operation. But then what? Iran can just rebuild them. They built them before. They can build them again.

 

 

[Patong2021]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It was just reported on the news that the majority of Iranian casulaties are women and children. Very tragic for Iranian families.

 

It was just reported that you are shaking with delight and squealing with glee as you announce the future destruction of Israel and the triumph of Iran. Like you, I can not provide credible sources for that information, and there is a strong likelihood, my report was fabricated.  Your thread is filled with unsubstantiated claims and  disinformation.

[Cameroni]

The rise in the price of oil will fill Russia's war coffers, and enable it to hit Ukraine harder and potentially win the war in Ukraine sooner.

 

When oil prices rise, the cost of production also goes up. This is eventually passed on to consumers, especially for energy-intensive goods like food, clothing and chemicals.

Oil-importing countries around the world could experience higher inflation and slower economic growth if the conflict persists.

Looking ahead, analysts warned that central banks would face reduced policy flexibility in trying to control rising prices.

 

Wall Street has taken a hit. On Friday, the S&P 500 and Nasdaq Composite indices shed 1.1 and 1.3 percent, respectively. In the Middle East, Egypt’s benchmark EGX 30 index fell 7.7 percent on Sunday while the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange 35 Index dropped 1.5 percent.

 

In the US, share prices of military suppliers, including Lockheed, Northrop Grumman and RTX, also rose.

Elsewhere, oil companies BP and Shell gained in value with the former closing nearly 2 percent higher and the latter closing at just more than 1 percent higher.

The price of gold was also trading about 1 percent higher on Friday at $3,426 an ounce, close to the record high of $3,500 it hit in April.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2025/6/16/what-would-an-israel-iran-war-mean-for-the-global-economy

[ronnie50]

Provides good cover for Israel to continue the ethnic cleansing and bulldozing of Gaza though doesn't it. Aid agencies say 51 people were killed at a food distribution center - after IDF shelling. Israeli 'Defense' Force. Yeah right.

[riclag]

Ive been watching the show for some time now!  I’m cheering for the planet’s

number one oppressed people since the existence of time!

 

I love to see Israel obtain  a bunker buster GBU 57 , maybe Massad can send a special ops team to steal some!

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Provides good cover for Israel to continue the ethnic cleansing and bulldozing of Gaza though doesn't it. Aid agencies say 51 people were killed at a food distribution center - after IDF shelling. Israeli 'Defense' Force. Yeah right.

 

That was particularly shocking, Israel using food distribution as bait to hit people queuing for food. It can't get any lower, one would say, but then you're talking about Israel.

[Cameroni]

Just now, riclag said:

Ive been watching the show for some time now!  I’m cheering for the planet’s

number one oppressed people since the existence of time!

 

I love to see Israel obtain  a bunker buster GBU 57 , maybe Massad can send a special ops team to steal some!

 

Trump has already said, indirectly, he does not want to give Israel the bunker buster bomb.

 

Israel could use a nuclear weapon or use a commando operation.

 

Unless Trump changes his mind of course.

[MalcolmB]

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Israel may win the initial battles now, but for sure Iran will regroup, rebuild its nuclear program and get the nuclear bomb. It is an existential issue for Iran now, given that Israel has nuclear weapons.

 

The Israeli army is too small numerically to occupy Iran. It could never happen. To take out the nuclear enrichment facilities the IDF has to use a nuclear weapon, or get the US bunker buster bomb or perhaps mount a major commando operation. But then what? Iran can just rebuild them. They built them before. They can build them again.

 

 

The Israelis will push it too far have too many enemies eventually and it will be similar to what happened to them during WW2. 
But some will survive, they will re-group and it will all happen again like it has been happening for 100s of years.

Rinse and repeat.

[TedG]

Iran’s air defense failure sends shockwaves to Russia

 

https://defence-blog.com/irans-air-defense-failure-sends-shockwaves-to-russia/

 

 

Israel’s high-tempo aerial campaign against Iran is triggering concern among Russian defense analysts and military circles, as parallels emerge between the exposed vulnerabilities of Tehran’s air defense systems and Moscow’s own troubled record in Ukraine.

 

Following Israeli strikes that penetrated deep into Iranian territory and destroyed key air defense assets with minimal resistance, Russian military observers have begun openly questioning the reliability of their own systems.

 

According to Russian-language military forums and unofficial commentary shared across pro-Kremlin channels, the Israeli operation has amplified existing doubts about Russia’s capacity to withstand a coordinated assault from a technologically advanced adversary such as NATO. As one commentator said, “Everyone here understands this is exactly what would happen to Russia if any NATO country decided to act.”

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Russian hardware fails when encountering the First World Hardware.   

 

 

 

[riclag]

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Trump has already said, indirectly, he does not want to give Israel the bunker buster bomb.

 

Israel could use a nuclear weapon or use a commando operation.

 

Unless Trump changes his mind of course.

Yup i know , thats why I mentioned massad.

[MalcolmB]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

number one oppressed people since the existence of time!

Why do so many countries feel the need to oppress the Jews?

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

The Israelis will push it too far have too many enemies eventually and it will be similar to what happened to them during WW2. 

 

Funny you mention that, it is actually remarkably similar to WW2, when Germany's initial war against Poland was a just war, a war to re-constitute German territorial integrity after Poland had annexed German lands in the aftermath of WW1. But then Hitler got greedy and mounted an all out Imperial war, which soon made his war unjust. Karma followed.

 

Israel is in a similar position now, pursuing Greater Israel ("HaShlema"), which is undoubtedly an imperial and unjust war. Karma will follow inevitably.

 

 

[hotsun]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Funny you mention that, it is actually remarkably similar to WW2, when Germany's initial war against Poland was a just war, a war to re-constitute German territorial integrity after Poland had annexed German lands in the aftermath of WW1. But then Hitler got greedy and mounted an all out Imperial war, which soon made his war unjust. Karma followed.

 

Israel is in a similar position now, pursuing Greater Israel ("HaShlema"), which is undoubtedly an imperial and unjust war. Karma will follow inevitably.

 

 

Hitler seeking expansion and israel hoping to prevent people who want to nuke them from getting nukes? Interesting logic

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Israel is in a similar position now, pursuing Greater Israel ("HaShlema"), which is undoubtedly an imperial and unjust war. Karma will follow inevitably.

Surely, and they don’t have the numbers.

There is only so much American weapons of mass destruction can do.

They couldn’t win against Vietnam, Afghanistan etc 

Israel is setting themselves up for another big fall within 100 years of the Holocaust 

They will never learn.

[MalcolmB]

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

Hitler seeking expansion and israel hoping to prevent people who want to nuke them from getting nukes? Interesting logic

Israel is always about expanding.

That is their problem.

[TedG]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Funny you mention that, it is actually remarkably similar to WW2, when Germany's initial war against Poland was a just war, a war to re-constitute German territorial integrity after Poland had annexed German lands in the aftermath of WW1. But then Hitler got greedy and mounted an all out Imperial war, which soon made his war unjust. Karma followed.

 

Israel is in a similar position now, pursuing Greater Israel ("HaShlema"), which is undoubtedly an imperial and unjust war. Karma will follow inevitably.

 

Sounds like Putin in Ukraine.     Anyway, Israel is doing a service to the world.   Israel has done severe damage to Hamas and Hezbollah.   Now Iran is next. 

[Cameroni]

5 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Hitler seeking expansion and israel hoping to prevent people who want to nuke them from getting nukes? Interesting logic

 

Israel too is seeking to expand. They want all of Gaza, parts of Egypt, Syria, and a lot more. Just look up Greater Israel.

 

https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/

 

The WMD narrative is just a tried and tested red herring, the real cause of Israel 's attack on Iran is that Iran had been the source of funding for nearly all of Israel's enemies. That's why Israel is hitting Iran.

[ronnie50]

Israeli passport holders should become 'persona non grata' (PNG) worldwide - at least in the EU, UK, Australia, Canada, etc.

Of course so many of them have US and South African passports, they'd just use those - particularly the worst of them - the 'settlers'

In any case, it's time for all Israelis to feel the pinch, even those that are opponents of the Netanyahu evil regime. So everyone, after all, if you want to make an omelette you need to break a few eggs, if you see what I mean..