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Is paying the bar to take a girl out of the bar justified? Or just a scam?


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Posted
11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Because she's a scammer, trying to extort money.

Which gives the guy a good warning.

 

We can explain it to these newbies over and over ........ but we can't understand it for them .   Even after the first scam..... the next one is "different".

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Posted
2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

What was the barfine price for Eve back in the day?

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:


A piece of fresh fruit picked off a tree.

 

A simpler time.

And my giddy aunt, didn't it cause some trouble!

Posted
7 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:


Are you aware the world's oldest profession has been around since the beginning of man?  Shortly after Adam and Eve (Eve’s fault) were kicked out of the Garden of Eden. 

 

Or is this a new concept you’ve recently discovered?

 

Are you a “save the world “ and a “do gooder”    type online while participating when “no one’s watching “.?  More likely than not.

 

 

Murder, incest,  spousal and child abuse have also been around just as long.  Your logic holds that we should turn a blind eye to it  as well. A wrongful act is a wrongful act.

 

The beneficiaries of bar fines are pimps. They make their living from the sale of men women, boys and girls for sexual acts. they are parasites.  The practice leaves emotionally damaged people. That is why the discussion of whether or not pay a pimp is disgusting

 

Posted
17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

I have a “drinking friend” who lives in the UK who has found “true love” in the bar.

He is 58, divorced and seems fairly well off.

She is damn hot, 26 from Burirum province. Friendly, speaks good English, 8 year old daughter lives in Burirum.

He plans to come to Thailand 2-3 times per year. 
She claims to have about 40,000 in debts with crazy interest which is why she is working the bar.

He is going to pay these debts so she can go back to live with her kid in Burirum, and she can get a normal job and he will top up her salary if needed. 
Everyone happy.

 

Except now the bar is demanding 50,000 baht from him so she can go”retire” from the bar. 
And she is agreeing with the Mamasan. “Justified” because Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc

It is getting ugly.
He is refusing. Mamasan isn’t budging. 
 

Why can’t she just quit like at any other job? 
Interested to hear views from other bar owners.

Is this standard or are they taking the pi55?

 

 

 

Technically its human trafficking by the bar, prostitution by the girl, and paying for prostitution / to the pimp by the guy.

 

All breaking the law.

Posted
13 hours ago, Keeps said:

If you say the last three quickly, it sounds like somewhere I visited once in Scotland. 

 

Oak, Ai, Da, Noo... 

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Posted
9 hours ago, RAZZELL said:

I have a mate who owns a bar and they "ask" for about 10k...

 

It always used to be 10k, even in the most popular bars, 50k is absolutely taking the pi$$.

Posted
17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Has anyone ever heard of anyone paying this before?

The bar seems to think it is standard process.

 

 

 

different city, quite a while ago and less money involved... but yes.

barfine back then was 200thb, the farewell payment 8500thb.


The way I understand it: this is a mixture of things and dependencies.
On a business level, the bar loses an earner. For an hour or a night, it's a barfine. For a long holiday with a customer or a total checkout, it's a larger sum.
Often, the girls are very much integrated into a bar, almost like family, living, sleeping, eating there. Think of it as a kind of sin sot and "go with our blessing"—nobody will talk badly about the girl, and if things don't work out, the door will be open.

 

 

  

 

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