11 hours ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

A salted buttery?

 

They call them rowies in Aberdeen.

 

Maybe the sandwich contained roast beef from Texas so Ms. Pirro could declare the venue and trial to be Amarillo, TX rather than a DC Judge and DC jury

 

-- the same DC judges who had their JAN6 convictions go POOF! Jan 20, 2025.

From the criminal complaint:

 

 

AI Quickie:  In federal law, "forcibly assault" in the context of 18 U.S.C. § 111 refers to an intentional act of violence or threat of violence against a federal officer or employee engaged in official duties, or someone who formerly served in such capacity, motivated by their official actions. This can include physical assault, using a weapon, or even threats that reasonably cause fear of bodily harm. 

 

Threats: Verbal threats or actions that create a reasonable fear of bodily harm in the officer. 

 

An update:

20 officers came to arrest man charged with throwing sandwich at a police officer in DC, his lawyer says

A man who worked for the Department of Justice was charged after allegedly throwing a sandwich at a federal law enforcement officer in Washington, DC, amid President Donald Trump’s takeover of the city’s police and increase in federal law enforcement presence.

The man, Sean Charles Dunn, appeared in court for an initial hearing Thursday after 20 officers were sent to arrest him, his defense attorney told a judge.

...

Attorney General Pam Bondi announced on social media Thursday that Dunn has been fired. He was an international affairs specialist in the Criminal Division of the Office of International Affairs, according to a source.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/13/politics/man-sandwich-dc-felony-charged

 

The job title "international affairs specialist" probably means he was some sort of administrative assistant.

Attorney General Pam Bondi announced on social media Thursday that Dunn has been fired. ❤️

Vid @ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3wn9zwjyyeo 

 

Dunn, 37, of Washington, was an international affairs specialist in the Justice Department’s criminal division ... 

 

 

 

While Mr. Dunn was heretofore a non descript federal employee, he may become a Washington DC cause célèbre especially if -- given the verbal of Ms. Bondi and Ms. Pirro -- whoever " ... forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes" with a federal officer, the charges are thrown out.

4 hours ago, Thailand said:

These ICE guys seem to be Trump's private army and growing rapidly is that correct?

18 hours ago, Airalee said:

I blame Subway.

Isn't it protected by the Constitution that sandwiches are a right?

Frankly, the incident reminds me of a story told by Woody Allen:

 

Years ago, my mother gave me a bullet...a bullet, and I put it in my breast pocket. Two years after that, I was walking down the street, when a berserk evangelist heaved a Gideon bible out a hotel room window, hitting me in the chest. Bible would have gone through my heart if it wasn't for the bullet

14 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

On a serious note, police can't always know what is about to be thrown at them.  Is it a sandwich or something dangerous?  It's extremely stupid for an individual to provoke armed police in that fashion.

 

The point that most people miss.

 

Sandwich or a small jar of acid, or something worse.

Pretty hefty sandwiches from Subway.

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

From the criminal complaint:

 

I posted this earlier from the actual federal criminal complaint. This is from the govinfo.gov website:

 

 

You will notice the 118 USC 111 (a)(1) citation in the complaint leaves out the word FORCIBLY

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9 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

The point that most people miss.

 

Sandwich or a small jar of acid, or something worse.

 

I agree.....it is unacceptable to throw anything at someone carrying out their duty........ regardless of what is thrown ......sandwich, shoe, water balloon......there has to be consequences to deter people.

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

Isn't it protected by the Constitution that sandwiches are a right?

Now that they are being used to assault people, they should be banned.
 

Unless open face of course.

On 8/14/2025 at 12:54 PM, CatCage said:

Man who hurled sandwich at law enforcement in D.C. charged with felony

AI quickie:

 

Yes, generally, being charged with a federal felony requires a grand jury indictment. The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution mandates the use of a grand jury for all capital and infamous crimes, which includes most federal felonies.

 

This means that before a federal prosecutor can formally charge someone with a felony, they must present evidence to a grand jury, and the grand jury must vote to indict. 

 

Watch for a laugh

19 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Attorney General Pam Bondi announced on social media Thursday that Dunn has been fired. ❤️

Vid @ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3wn9zwjyyeo 

 

Dunn, 37, of Washington, was an international affairs specialist in the Justice Department’s criminal division ... 

 

 

 

 

After a quiet start, the AG has been pretty high profile on mainstream and social media lately, sometimes on matters that wouldn't normally deserve any comment from Justice. I wonder what's brought about this bout of, "Hey, look at me, over here"?

2 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

AI quickie:

 

Yes, generally, being charged with a federal felony requires a grand jury indictment. The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution mandates the use of a grand jury for all capital and infamous crimes, which includes most federal felonies.

 

This means that before a federal prosecutor can formally charge someone with a felony, they must present evidence to a grand jury, and the grand jury must vote to indict. 

 

Note the word "generally" which suggests to me that the grand jury option, although Constitutionally mandated, isn't a universal criteria. Or maybe just not in AG Bondi's, "Hey! Look at me, over here" universe?

17 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

I agree.....it is unacceptable to throw anything at someone carrying out their duty........ regardless of what is thrown ......sandwich, shoe, water balloon......there has to be consequences to deter people.

 

I would have thought that the average cost of a sandwich in NYC, recently quoted at 27 bucks, would be deterrent enough.

 

Is there a federal statute on wasting your own money?

37 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Note the word "generally" which suggests to me that the grand jury option, although Constitutionally mandated, isn't a universal criteria. 

 

That's true.  A written complaint can be used in some Federal cases to obtain an arrest warrant.  If the defendant agrees to waive his right to a grand jury indictment, the case can then proceed without a grand jury indictment.  That generally happens when the evidence against the defendant is overwhelming and the defendant's attorney will attempt a plea bargain to which the defendant is willing to plead guilty.  .

That's what appears to have happened in the sandwich tossing case.

 

What’s the Difference Between a Criminal Indictment, a Criminal Information, and a Criminal Complaint?

https://www.mololamken.com/knowledge-Whats-the-Difference-Between-a-Criminal-Indictment-a-Criminal-Information-and-a-Criminal-Complaint

41 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Note the word "generally" which suggests to me that the grand jury option, although Constitutionally mandated, isn't a universal criteria. Or maybe just not in AG Bondi's, "Hey! Look at me, over here" universe?

And the main 'general' exception is when the accused waives his right to a federal grand jury indictment.

 

But as noted above the charge in the criminal complaint (a)(1) is a misdemeanor -- the felony assault is (a)(2)

A fascist state has been born, Trump's latest child.

20 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

That's what appears to have happened in the sandwich tossing case.

(CBS News 15 AUG 2025) He is charged with one count of assaulting federal law enforcement. No plea has been entered in the case, nor has a hearing been scheduled, as of Thursday afternoon. CBS News has reached out to his attorney. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-dept-fires-charges-staffer-threw-sandwich-federal-agent-in-d-c/

 

And as noted by a DC area criminal defense attorney, 118CFR Sec 111(a)(1) is a misdemeanor, not a felony. Also note in citing the statute they have left out the word 'forcibly' which is in the official govinfo.gov version as posted above. 

On 8/14/2025 at 5:10 AM, LosLobo said:

I’ve heard of ambitious prosecutors indicting a ham sandwich [ . . ]

I think that is only in Saudi and the Gulf States.

 

 

Comedy of errors  , so now a ham sandwich is an offensive weapon , in

the hands of the Democrats it is , MAGA can throw anything Like on 

Jan 6 Th and get a pardon ,what a crazy World we are now living in 

My question is did the officer eat it ?

 

regards worgeordie

10 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

CBS News 15 AUG 2025) He is charged with one count of assaulting federal law enforcement. No plea has been entered in the case, nor has a hearing been scheduled, as of Thursday afternoon. CBS News has reached out to his attorney. 

 

I was referring to the case proceeding on the basis of a written complaint, not saying that a plea had already been entered.  I included the  link to the complaint in a post I made earlier.

 

On 8/14/2025 at 11:34 AM, Evil Penevil said:

Here's the link to the court filing in which the man is charged with a felony:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.283707/gov.uscourts.dcd.283707.1.1.pdf

 

If physical contact occurs, it becomes a class D felony.

See?  DT was right!  Where else but in a crime-ridden hell hole would such things be happening?

 

 

18 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

I was referring to the case proceeding on the basis of a written complaint, not saying that a plea had already been entered.  I included the  link to the complaint in a post I made earlier.

 

 

If physical contact occurs, it becomes a class D felony.

 Simple federal assault is a Class A misdemeanor punishable by up to 1 year in jail and fines up to $100,000.

 

I am not a lawyer. But when reading these comments from AG Bondi:

 

In a post on X Thursday, Bondi wrote she had "just learned that this defendant worked at the Department of Justice — NO LONGER. Not only is he FIRED, he has been charged with a felony."

 

"This is an example of the Deep State we have been up against for seven months as we work to refocus DOJ," Bondi continued. 

 

-- Deep state? With that comment it seems she and Ms. Pirro may be loading up on this guy as your proto-typical deep state actor.

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

I would have thought that the average cost of a sandwich in NYC, recently quoted at 27 bucks, would be deterrent enough.

 

Is there a federal statute on wasting your own money?

 

 

$27...you cannot be serious!!!!

20 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

$27...you cannot be serious!!!!

 

My bad. It's 29 bucks, actually.

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11970623/A-simple-HAM-SANDWICH-New-York-City-deli-cost-29.html