Well, Vlad supporters and Z guys strongly disagree with you that Ukraine is winning. Because Vladimir Putin said that "All the tasks of the SMO will certainly be solved".

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Without oil money Putin is toast.

The US and Europe are still doing billions of dollars’ worth of business with Russia despite years of war

Fertilizer: The US imported $927 million worth of fertilizer in the first half of this year, US Census Bureau data shows. Last year, fertilizer imports from Russia totaled more than $1 billion. The US particularly relies on Russia for imports of three types of chemical fertilizers: urea, urea ammonium nitrate (UAN) and potassium chloride muriate of potash, also called potash.

Palladium: Although palladium imports from Russia have reduced significantly since 2021, data shows that the US still imported $878 million worth of the metal in 2024 and $594 million worth in 2025, through June.

Uranium and plutonium: The US has imported $755 million worth of uranium and plutonium from Russia so far this year, according to Census data through June

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/14/europe/us-europe-trade-business-with-russia-intl

Is it just me or does this place seem to have undergone some sort of Glastnost - it feels very good. 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, zmisha said:

Well, Vlad supporters and Z guys strongly disagree with you that Ukraine is winning. Because Vladimir Putin said that "All the tasks of the SMO will certainly be solved".

Who cares what that genocidal war criminal dictator says? He lies almost as much as Trump and his word can never be trusted.

4 hours ago, JackGats said:

The EU is host to 600 thousand Ukrainian deserters. Imagine how strong Ukraine would be if these deserters were instead serving in the Ukrainian forces. Ukraine would occupy Moscow by now.

 

Not that I in a position to blame the deserters for deserting. 

Russian draft dodgers I love.

Ukrainian draft dodgers not so much.

Their nation has been invaded and occupied by a force that uses terrorism daily to intentionally target civilian targets.

Anyone who takes five minutes of research will understand that Putin is open about his goal to completely erase everything about Ukrainian culture and identity.

9 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

can see the day where deals are made to exploit Russia's vast resources.

Definetely

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Also the promise of Flamingos and not having hands tied by Putin loving Trump.

Sorry, I don't understand.???

Flamingos?

Not having hands tied?

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Who cares what that genocidal war criminal dictator says? He lies almost as much as Trump and his word can never be trusted.

For two years now, Europe has been talking about sending troops into Ukraine and attacking Russia with long-range missiles. And Vlad says that this should never be done. And who does the American president listen to? Which of these two is he rolling out the red carpet for? His actions speak for themselves.
 

Leaders like Vlad, as well as his friend from Democratic Korea and also former Russian President Medvedev - they all love it when their nuclear speeches are taken seriously. And every time we see a very serious reaction from the American president -
 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/02/europe/russia-donald-trump-nuclear-threat-latam-intl

30 minutes ago, zmisha said:

For two years now, Europe has been talking about sending troops into Ukraine and attacking Russia with long-range missiles. And Vlad says that this should never be done. And who does the American president listen to? Which of these two is he rolling out the red carpet for? His actions speak for themselves.
 

Leaders like Vlad, as well as his friend from Democratic Korea and also former Russian President Medvedev - they all love it when their nuclear speeches are taken seriously. And every time we see a very serious reaction from the American president -
 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/02/europe/russia-donald-trump-nuclear-threat-latam-intl

Ridiculous tripe.

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Sorry, I don't understand.???

Flamingos?

Not having hands tied?

Flamingo (missile) - Wikipedia

With Flamingos which are made in Ukraine they don't have to listen to Putin's poodle Trump about where and when they can send their weapons.

Trump has not made peace. He's extended this war by failing to understand the basic reality of this war that a typical toddler by now understands. To get Putin to step down from his rigid maximalist (genocidal) goals you need to greatly increase the pressure on Russia both economically and militarily. The disgraceful American president has done the opposite. 

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Flamingo (missile) - Wikipedia

With Flamingos which are made in Ukraine they don't have to listen to Putin's poodle Trump about where and when they can send their weapons.

Trump has not made peace. He's extended this war by failing to understand the basic reality of this war that a typical toddler by now understands. To get Putin to step down from his rigid maximalist (genocidal) goals you need to greatly increase the pressure on Russia both economically and militarily. The disgraceful American president has done the opposite. 

Thank you. I didn't know about the birds🤗. 

Question; How to put pressure onto Putin to stop the Ukraine war.....and in addition to give up plans concerning Georgia and Moldova?

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Thank you. I didn't know about the birds🤗. 

Question; How to put pressure onto Putin to stop the Ukraine war.....and in addition to give up plans concerning Georgia and Moldova?

Bone crushing secondary sanctions on nations buying Russian oil.

Increased military aid with no dictating where to use them (as long as military targets of course).

Trump isn't sending ANY military aid now.

He's only SELLING arms now which is better than nothing, but still very shabby.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Bone crushing secondary sanctions on nations buying Russian oil.

Increased military aid with no dictating where to use them (as long as military targets of course).

Trump isn't sending ANY military aid now.

He's only SELLING arms now which is better than nothing, but still very shabby.

Agreed, but with the sanctions it's getting difficult.

Russia got too much what other countries are in need of.

Example; As I said yesterday you can't control all 500 of Putin's Ships carrying oil or gas into the world.

They pump the oil from one ship to another in the ocean and immediately it's not Russian oil but oil from Ghana or Gabun or Liberia.

The "West" is not able to stop that. Too different interests.

 

Just now, newbee2022 said:

Agreed, but with the sanctions it's getting difficult.

Russia got too much what other countries are in need of.

Example; As I said yesterday you can't control all 500 of Putin's Ships carrying oil or gas into the world.

They pump the oil from one ship to another in the ocean and immediately it's not Russian oil but oil from Ghana or Gabun or Liberia.

The "West" is not able to stop that. Too different interests.

 

Can't stop all of that but there are things that can be done to stop some of it.

Nothing will be 100 percent.

Ukraine has now taken out 17 percent of Russia's oil refining capacity.

The results are already dramatic.

Get to 50 percent and you have potential to force Putin into getting more realistic.

Right now he still thinks he can get away with anything and is just waiting this out assured that that corrupt grifter in the white house will ever even try to stop him.

 

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Can't stop all of that but there are things that can be done to stop some of it.

Nothing will be 100 percent.

Ukraine has now taken out 17 percent of Russia's oil refining capacity.

The results are already dramatic.

Get to 50 percent and you have potential to force Putin into getting more realistic.

Right now he still thinks he can get away with anything and is just waiting this out assured that that corrupt grifter in the white house will ever even try to stop him.

 

Remember the first winter of this war?

The Ukrainian people had no heating,this year parts of russia will be over heated or freezing!

 

This is the perfect OP for JT as it thoroughly exemplifies how entirely off base he constantly is. Not just a wee bit or sometimes, but always 

 

The reason the war can't be ended is bc the US unfortunately continues to sell weapons to Ukraine. If that were to end they would fold in a matter of weeks like a cheap suit 

 

It continues to drag on bc Zelensky simply will not accept cold, stark reality. The sad part is every day this drags on more lives are lost.

 

Ukraine has gained nothing and Russia will keep all gains in ethnic Russian provs and of course Crimea 

 

You've really outdone yourself on this one JT. 

 

 

 

Please go back thru your posts and find all the comments and OP you've created that were in hindsight on the money. Create a new thread. We will all apologize.  Until then you'll just continue embarrassing yourself. 

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Can't stop all of that but there are things that can be done to stop some of it.

Nothing will be 100 percent.

Ukraine has now taken out 17 percent of Russia's oil refining capacity.

The results are already dramatic.

Get to 50 percent and you have potential to force Putin into getting more realistic.

Right now he still thinks he can get away with anything and is just waiting this out assured that that corrupt grifter in the white house will ever even try to stop him.

 

 

Says the military man 🤡

 

Colonel Clowny McClownface

9 minutes ago, KhaoHom said:

This is the perfect OP for JT as it thoroughly exemplifies how entirely off base he constantly is. Not just a wee bit or sometimes, but always 

 

The reason the war can't be ended is bc the US unfortunately continues to sell weapons to Ukraine. If that were to end they would fold in a matter of weeks like a cheap suit 

 

It continues to drag on bc Zelensky simply will not accept cold, stark reality. The sad part is every day this drags on more lives are lost.

 

Ukraine has gained nothing and Russia will keep all gains in ethnic Russian provs and of course Crimea 

 

You've really outdone yourself on this one JT. 

 

 

 

Please go back thru your posts and find all the comments and OP you've created that were in hindsight on the money. Create a new thread. We will all apologize.  Until then you'll just continue embarrassing yourself. 

You seem to have intentionally twisted the point of this thread.

I assert because of the drone on oil success that right now Ukraine does modestly have momentum overall.

I have never said anything like that Ukraine will ever be able to force Russia out of the Ukrainian lands that Russia currently occupy.

That is clearly very unlikely.

Ukrainian leadership understands that too.

Ukrainian leadership is willing to make a peace deal that involves accepting the reality of probably most current Russian occupation lines.

They are not willing to gift more land than would make it easier for Russia to regroup and go for Kiev.

PUTIN IS NOT willing! He does not want peace. He wants surrender. Ukraine is not in a position anywhere near needing to surrender.

5 minutes ago, KhaoHom said:

 

Says the military man 🤡

 

Colonel Clowny McClownface

I'm as much a military man as bone spurs Donald Trump. 

On 8/26/2025 at 1:57 PM, t0mt0m said:

What about genocide ukrainian nazis commit on over 100k polish and jewish people ? Did you already checked "zbrodnia wołyńska" on google pictures ?

KIlling Jews is acceptable in the support Ukraine crowd.

14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Russia is all about terrorism and murdering civilians.

I don't think you like the Russians. Is it the country? Is it the people? Is it the leaders? Could you say?

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

I don't think you like the Russians. Is it the country. Is it the people. Is it the leaders. Could you say?

Troll bait ignored.

Just now, Jingthing said:

Troll bait ignored.

Usual comment for someone who is trapped in a net of his own making. Caeey on like this and you will soon be at 200k posts.

 

You put up the most ridiculous topic, and when AN members oppose it, and don't agree, you throw tour rattles out of the pen.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Usual comment for someone who is trapped in a net of his own making. Caeey on like this and you will soon be at 200k posts.

 

You put up the most ridiculous topic, and when AN members oppose it, and don't agree, you throw tour rattles out of the pen.

I'm not the topic.

The topic is the topic.

If it offends you so much, nobody is forcing you to read or post to it.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

I'm not the topic.

The topic is the topic.

If it offends you so much, nobody is forcing you to read or post to it.

Don't bother me to the point that I am rude to fellow posters; like you. The truth is; you have backed the loser.

 

Let me tell you a few facts Sir. The US, with yappy dog UK close behind, started this conflict. The said countries, were/are trying their best to weaken Russia, using Ukraine; and Ukrainian blood and bodies. But the Ruskies will not bend the knee. The idea that Russia can ne sliced up like a pie are long gone.

 

Nuclear weapons move into Lakenheath by the US. This could be the hub of WW3. To trivialise it all like you do is nonsense.

In August it's about Ukrainian drones massive success against Russian oil refineries.

I noticed Anne Applebaum thinks that story has been largely ignored in the media and she plans to work on changing that.

This topic is about that too, though I'm no Anne Applebaum of course.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Don't bother me to the point that I am rude to fellow posters; like you. The truth is; you have backed the loser.

 

Let me tell you a few facts Sir. The US, with yappy dog UK close behind, started this conflict. The said countries, were/are trying their best to weaken Russia, using Ukraine; and Ukrainian blood and bodies. But the Ruskies will not bend the knee. The idea that Russia can ne sliced up like a pie are long gone.

 

Nuclear weapons move into Lakenheath by the US. This could be the hub of WW3. To trivialise it all like you do is nonsense.

You're posting Kremlin propaganda. Now THAT is nonsense.

I agree Putin will not and cannot surrender. He dies if he does. He has to be FORCED to back down. 

As far as backing a winner or loser, nobody yet knows about the final result of this war.

It clearly won't be soon.

It could be 20 years from now. Probably more in the one or two year range.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

You're posting Kremlin propaganda. Now THAT is nonsense.

I agree Putin will not and cannot surrender. He dies if he does. He has to be FORCED to back down. 

As far as backing a winner or loser, nobody yet knows about the final result of this war.

It clearly won't be soon.

It could be 20 years from now.

Could be the start of WW3.

 

The US is maneuvering its weaponry. Lakenheath in Surry (England) is stockpiling US weapons. And if I know, I'm sure the Ruskies do. What could possibly go wrong.

 

When a country starts something, and can't get out of it, the recourse is a big war. Of course that war will be in Europe, not Washington.

 

The Don did a wrong 'un. He should have said, right from the start of his term; "This is Biden's war. Stop." And without weapons and dosh, it would have. Now, for reasons we can just guess, but we might never know, he has doubled down. Just who has the Don by the short and curlies?

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Could be the start of WW3.

 

The US is maneuvering its weaponry. Lakenheath in Surry (England) is stockpiling US weapons. And if I know, I'm sure the Ruskies do. What could possibly go wrong.

 

When a country starts something, and can't get out of it, the recourse is a big war. Of course that war will be in Europe, not Washington.

 

The Don did a wrong 'un. He should have said, right from the start of his term; "This is Biden's war. Stop." And without weapons and dosh, it would have. Now, for reasons we can just guess, but we might never know, he has doubled down. Just who has the Don by the short and curlies?

Trump is Putin's poodle.

Trump has stopped all financial and arms aid to Ukraine.

Only sales to make money.

The ww3 fear mongering is Kremlin propaganda 100 percent.

I guess you think readers here are stupid.

16 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The Russian speakers are in the majority. That's why the US instigated the 2014 coup. The US and the UK, just can't get over the fact that Russia, under President Putin, will not bend the knee.

 

And there is nothing they can do about it.

 

 

Rubbish, but Putin thanks you.