Samsung Plasma Problem

[JAS21]

Guys

I read a lot about Plasma and LCDs TVs and UBC in another thread. I have a 42 inch Samaung home movie thing, it came free with the house. We mainly only use it to watch UBC. I read, in another thread, that plasma is ok but don’t buy LCD as the picture quality will be poor with UBC.

At present it’s not working. Fuzzy screen and a lot of noise. It was ok until the Air Con. cleaning guy plugged his extension lead, unknown to me at the time, into the extension lead that I use for the Samsung, DCD Played and UBC box. His extension supplied a water pump and hair dryer. So he switched my extension lead on, which switched on the Samsung etc, sometime later his additional load blew the 5amp fuse in my extension lead. Since then I have had this problem. I assume that the supply voltage fell somewhat and the PCB transformer didn’t like it, or something along those lines.

Samsung want 1450 Baht to come and look at it and take it away for repair. They are saying 8000-10000 baht for repair..does this seem reasonable? Any alternatives?

I was going to go out and buy an LCD screen and bin the plasma, maybe not now though if LCD picture will be worse..

[Mumbo Jumbo]

Hi john, sorry can't help with your problem, but your post struck a chord .. as I am / were planning to buy a Samsung LCD TV as the prices are coming down all the time, but now hearing that a LCD TV may not give a decent picture if used with UBC I may have to re think, Is any one using a LCD TV with UBC , can you please let me know what your pictures like

Thanks Mumbo

[jimmym40]

I did much research on the plasma's and LCD TVs prior to my purchase.

I purchased a 40 inch LCD Samsung. Do some investigation, you'll probably agree with me that the LCDs are superior in the long run.

I've never heard of the problems you mentioned with the LCDs and UBC. Anyone ever heard of this.

[opalhort]

I also have a question about UBC on LCDs.

Recently somebody had a topic about UBC signals being pixelated on LCDs.

Our old CRT TV is on the way out and I want to get a LCD but we have only UBC. Our UBC comes in via cable and through the old analogue set-top box which has only an RF output.

Would this be a problem with a LCD TV?

opalhort

[JAS21]

I did much research on the plasma's and LCD TVs prior to my purchase.

I purchased a 40 inch LCD Samsung. Do some investigation, you'll probably agree with me that the LCDs are superior in the long run.

I've never heard of the problems you mentioned with the LCDs and UBC. Anyone ever heard of this.

Today we went looking, yes all the shops admitted, after we promped them, that UBC and LCD is a bit iffee. HOWEVER we looked at Philips LCDs. They have pixel plus and better still ambi light. The demo I saw, using a normal TV signal, was quite impressive. the 42inch ambi light is coming out at 76000 baht at present, on offer in Ngam Wong Wan Mall so they say!

I understand that UBC is 400 lines and normal tv is less.

[andyadam]

I did much research on the plasma's and LCD TVs prior to my purchase.

I purchased a 40 inch LCD Samsung. Do some investigation, you'll probably agree with me that the LCDs are superior in the long run.

I've never heard of the problems you mentioned with the LCDs and UBC. Anyone ever heard of this.

Today we went looking, yes all the shops admitted, after we promped them, that UBC and LCD is a bit iffee. HOWEVER we looked at Philips LCDs. They have pixel plus and better still ambi light. The demo I saw, using a normal TV signal, was quite impressive. the 42inch ambi light is coming out at 76000 baht at present, on offer in Ngam Wong Wan Mall so they say!

I understand that UBC is 400 lines and normal tv is less.

I thought UBC was PAL !!!!!!! Most TV's now will run anything!

NTSC M - PAL B,G,H - PAL N - PAL M - SECAM B,G,H - SECAM D,K,K',L

Lines/Fields 525/60 - 625/50 - 625/50 - 525/60 - 625/50 - 625/50

(sorry for the formatting, it won't line up when I post it!!???)

Edited August 13, 2007 by andyadam

[Maigo6]

I bought a Panasonic 32" LCD tv for the bedroom when I was last home, DVD's come out very good, excellent in fact.

As for UBC, I get a better picture on the Sony Vega 32" 65Kg CRT in the living room.

I have checked up online and it seems that Plasma TV is better suited for the likes of UBC, LCD's use less power and are lighter than Plasma TV's, LCD's are better for viewing in a well lit enviroment, ( no reflections from the screen ), though some manufacturers are now putting a non reflective coating on the screens of their latest Plasma TV's to combat this problem.

It appears that Panasonic and Pioneer are still mainly centred on the Plasma TV market and both get excellent write ups in the reviews.

www.avforums.com will give you all the info you could ever ask for regarding TV's.

Edited August 13, 2007 by Maigo6

[JAS21]

I did much research on the plasma's and LCD TVs prior to my purchase.

I purchased a 40 inch LCD Samsung. Do some investigation, you'll probably agree with me that the LCDs are superior in the long run.

I've never heard of the problems you mentioned with the LCDs and UBC. Anyone ever heard of this.

Today we went looking, yes all the shops admitted, after we promped them, that UBC and LCD is a bit iffee. HOWEVER we looked at Philips LCDs. They have pixel plus and better still ambi light. The demo I saw, using a normal TV signal, was quite impressive. the 42inch ambi light is coming out at 76000 baht at present, on offer in Ngam Wong Wan Mall so they say!

I understand that UBC is 400 lines and normal tv is less.

I thought UBC was PAL !!!!!!! Most TV's now will run anything!

NTSC M - PAL B,G,H - PAL N - PAL M - SECAM B,G,H - SECAM D,K,K',L

Lines/Fields 525/60 - 625/50 - 625/50 - 525/60 - 625/50 - 625/50

(sorry for the formatting, it won't line up when I post it!!???)

Yes I did a search and see that UBC is PAL-2, whatever that is. I think I will re-ask the question on a new thread.

[Mumbo Jumbo]

I am still not sure if a LCD TV would be a wise move only using UBC, How do we start a Poll on this subject

just to try and get some member feed back on the LCD TV / UBC thing..? any one out there using a LCD TV with UBC

if so hows the picture..?

Mumbo ...

[Maigo6]

I am still not sure if a LCD TV would be a wise move only using UBC, How do we start a Poll on this subject

just to try and get some member feed back on the LCD TV / UBC thing..? any one out there using a LCD TV with UBC

if so hows the picture..?

Mumbo ...

Not as good as my old Sony CRT TV, to use LCD with only UBC is not so good.

LCD's with DVD, very good.

[Mumbo Jumbo]

Thanks ... Ok so ... LCD with only UBC is not so good.

any one else ...?

Mumbo

[nikster]

Thanks ... Ok so ... LCD with only UBC is not so good.

I don't watch UBC on my LCD - the cable doesn't go there or I would try - but I do want to mention that A) it probably really very much depends on the LCD TV and B ) this will change with each new generation coming out. The reason being that in theory, nothing stops the very high resolution LCD TV from blowing up and blurring the low res analog signal exactly like an analog TV does. It just takes good a lot of processing power, and early LCD TVs were really bad at it so they ended up with a terribly pixelated image.

The LCD does a really good job of interpolating the analogue DVD signal which is also lower res than the native LCD resolution.

So if you answer, also tell the brand and year of the LCD TV. That will be a lot more useful.

Edited August 13, 2007 by nikster

[Maigo6]

So if you answer, also tell the brand and year of the LCD TV. That will be a lot more useful.

Mine is a Panasonic 32" 2007 Model, DVD quality is excellent, really good.

UBC isn't as good as my Sony Vega.

[Solosiam]

Brand doesn't matter, there ar eonly like 2-3 factories in the world making all the panels for the Electronics companies.

LCD's don't work so well with UBC because of the increase in size and the fact that a digital display is not as soft as CRT, so good pictures tend to look better, whults bad ones look worse.

Unless you are looking at the very cheapest in Plasma TV's, exactly the same thing goes with them.

840x480 plasma is probably the optimum for UBC at the moment, but then it's gonna be pretty useless for HD TV or gaming etc...

Always use S-Video for the set top box connection, and make sure the TV is set up properly (Coloour, Brightness etc...) and it shouldn't be that much of a problem.

[basjke]

Thanks ... Ok so ... LCD with only UBC is not so good.

any one else ...?

Mumbo

And I have a thumb on my lcd screen now because I wanted to kill that fly or whatever it is in your avatar.

Edited August 13, 2007 by basjke

[sahprite]

I have a Sony KLV 46 inch X series which is an LCD. My old TV was a Sony Trinitron 26 inch CRT which is now in the bedroom. UBC is bad on both of them but it does look worse on the big screen but I think that is a case of the screen size increasing the ability to see the poor quality of UBC's signal and not the fact that it's an LCD. It is full HD with 1080 and is stunning with a Bluray picture and very good with a DVD picture. I'm sure a VCD would look much worse on the 46 than it does on the 26 but that is not due to the LCD.

Most of the movie channels, ESPN, NGC, and Discovery look ok, the rest are mediocre but the worst has to be AXN and the sports channel that shows the Scottish games. All of them have a poor sound quality as well but that is the same on both TVs. Has anyone noticed that sometimes there is a better sound if you choose the Thai sound channel?

No TV will make UBC look or sound good until they increase the quality of their broadcasts - maybe someone can confirm that it is due to the signal and not the set-top-boxes with their 20+ year old technology that is responsible.

[astral]

I cannot comment on UBC as I am not in Thailand at the moment,

but I have a 32" Samsung LCD fed from a microwave rebroadcast network

here in Lebanon and it performs extremely well.

I am very please with it.