September 23, 2025Sep 23 The UK is at the center of a contentious debate over freedom of speech, with recent events drawing comparisons to authoritarian regimes. Nigel Farage's comments, likening the UK's situation to North Korea during a US congressional committee hearing, have intensified discussions. His reference to incidents such as the arrest of Graham Linehan—concerning free speech about ladyboys in women-only spaces—has ignited widespread controversy. Tensions over free speech in the UK have been simmering for years, heightened by the prominence of social media since the mid-2000s. US Vice-President JD Vance has expressed concerns about the UK losing its commitment to free speech, warning against a "dark path." Forbes further criticized the UK's increasing speech censorship, which it likened to tactics of "Third World dictatorships," starkly contrasting with America's First Amendment protections. The case of Lucy Connolly exemplifies how the debate is being shaped by social media. Connolly was found guilty of inciting racial hatred due to her inflammatory comments on X, a platform formerly known as Twitter. Her case reveals how social media algorithms can amplify controversial views. Under Elon Musk's leadership, X has adjusted its approach to content moderation, which he views as censorship, while Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg has also altered Meta's guidelines. This shift by major tech companies influences the landscape of free speech debates. Authorities and experts are divided over the appropriate extent of speech policing. The arrest of Linehan at Heathrow brought additional scrutiny to how speech issues are managed. Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley has voiced concerns, emphasizing the challenges of effectively regulating online content given its vast volume. In the UK, the Human Rights Act protects free speech but allows for restrictions deemed "necessary in a democratic society," which leads to divergent interpretations. Looking forward, the UK faces the complex task of balancing free speech with the need to protect individuals from harmful content. A recent YouGov survey indicates that 61% of British adults prioritize safety over unrestricted expression, hinting at societal shifts. Notably, former Deputy Prime Minister Sir Nick Clegg suggests revisiting the UK's approach to speech regulation, advocating for the acceptance of controversial remarks as a hallmark of a free society. This ongoing debate mirrors global issues, such as the reactions to the assassination of conservative figure Charlie Kirk in the US. While America contends with its own speech dilemmas, figures like historian Tim Snyder distinguish between "free speech" and "me speech," noting that influential individuals often seek to monopolize expression. As the UK grapples with defining acceptable speech boundaries, its legal system will play a critical role in navigating these challenges. Key Takeaways The UK's approach to free speech is increasingly scrutinized, receiving global attention. Social media's influence has complicated the regulation and perception of speech-related cases. Future discussions will focus on balancing the right to free speech with ensuring public safety. Adapted by ASEAN Now from BBC 2025-09-22
September 23, 2025Sep 23 Popular Post I guess one of the major 'problems' now is the audience offered by social media. Originally, you would have to go to a live meeting to hear what people wanted to say.......unedited. that is....now free speech can be spewed out to millions in real time.
September 23, 2025Sep 23 I think we pander to religious groups too much. I should be free to say something that offends a group but is not hate speech. For example, I don’t believe in God/Allah. I don’t believe Mohammad was a prophet. The former is ok in the UK, but not the latter and that’s clearly wrong.
September 23, 2025Sep 23 Popular Post All you need to do now is view the wrong social media post and you'll have these two at your door trying to force entry to your house, intimidate you and try to arrest your 14 year old daughter. https://nypost.com/2025/09/21/world-news/uk-cops-deny-arresting-girl-over-social-media-post/ Keir is very proud of our freedom of speech though. 😆
September 23, 2025Sep 23 Popular Post The police should prioritise protecting people from harmful knives, sticks and stones. The words can never hurt you!
September 23, 2025Sep 23 20 hours ago, JonnyF said: All you need to do now is view the wrong social media post and you'll have these two at your door trying to force entry to your house, intimidate you and try to arrest your 14 year old daughter. https://nypost.com/2025/09/21/world-news/uk-cops-deny-arresting-girl-over-social-media-post/ Keir is very proud of our freedom of speech though. 😆 Heeeeere's Jonny! As usual Jonny you're just making stuff up to fit your own narrative. From the ACTUAL article YOU posted - '“We are aware of reports that we are investigating a child for viewing a social media post. This is completely incorrect,” a West Midlands police spokesperson said' they went on to say '“We are investigating after a complaint from a member of the public that a fake social media account had been created in their name and had been used to send indecent messages'. 'British law enforcement officials said the messages were “of an incredibly serious nature,” had caused “serious concern” to the victim and are being treated as “sending indecent or grossly offensive communication to cause distress or anxiety.” So how is this anything to do with viewing 'the wrong social media post' and how is this nothing other than the police doing their job after a complaint from the public? <removed>
September 23, 2025Sep 23 19 hours ago, johnnybangkok said: Heeeeere's Jonny! As usual Jonny you're just making stuff up to fit your own narrative. From the ACTUAL article YOU posted - '“We are aware of reports that we are investigating a child for viewing a social media post. This is completely incorrect,” a West Midlands police spokesperson said' they went on to say '“We are investigating after a complaint from a member of the public that a fake social media account had been created in their name and had been used to send indecent messages'. 'British law enforcement officials said the messages were “of an incredibly serious nature,” had caused “serious concern” to the victim and are being treated as “sending indecent or grossly offensive communication to cause distress or anxiety.” So how is this anything to do with viewing 'the wrong social media post' and how is this nothing other than the police doing their job after a complaint from the public? We are all used to you conflating issues to further your agenda Jonny, but now you are just downright lying. The police defending the police and you believe it. What a surprise. Good lad. Just what they need. 😃 Simply put, the teen did not setup the account. She merely viewed the post. Then the police came round and made lots of unlawful moves like demanding the mother didn't film them, threatened her with "escalation", demanded entrance to the property without a warrant etc. Anyway a famous pro free speech YouTuber barrister has taken up their case pro bono. You can increase your knowledge of the case on his channel BlackBeltBarrister. <removed>
September 23, 2025Sep 23 Please debate the topic politely, without using personal attacks, such as calling other members liars, or ignorant. Two posts were removed. Thank you.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 20 hours ago, JBChiangRai said: I think we pander to religious groups too much. I should be free to say something that offends a group but is not hate speech. For example, I don’t believe in God/Allah. I don’t believe Mohammad was a prophet. The former is ok in the UK, but not the latter and that’s clearly wrong. You can't chose your own free speech. Free speech ends where you offend or insult somebody else or violate somebody intentionally of religion, culture and customs. Respect is your missing word.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 12 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: You can't chose your own free speech. Free speech ends where you offend or insult somebody else or violate somebody intentionally of religion, culture and customs. Respect is your missing word. I agree with you about insulting people, but stating your own views should be possible. I agree with John Stuart Mills harm principle that speech should only be restricted when it causes direct harm, not merely offense. Hate speech should not be allowed, but we have a situation now where it's impossible to even question Islam. The Quran is full of hate speech, but we can't talk about it - that's wrong IMHO.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 15 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: I agree with you about insulting people, but stating your own views should be possible. I agree with John Stuart Mills harm principle that speech should only be restricted when it causes direct harm, not merely offense. Hate speech should not be allowed, but we have a situation now where it's impossible to even question Islam. The Quran is full of hate speech, but we can't talk about it - that's wrong IMHO. Same is the Bible.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 The problem lies with the police and the judiciary who seem to think that controversial remarks are more dangerous than murder, rape and theft.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said: I agree with you about insulting people, but stating your own views should be possible. I agree with John Stuart Mills harm principle that speech should only be restricted when it causes direct harm, not merely offense. Hate speech should not be allowed, but we have a situation now where it's impossible to even question Islam. The Quran is full of hate speech, but we can't talk about it - that's wrong IMHO. Maybe they should arrest those with copies of the Quran?
September 24, 2025Sep 24 23 hours ago, BritManToo said: The police should prioritise protecting people from harmful knives, sticks and stones. The words can never hurt you! And yet......Kimmel, 63,000 people on a right wing hit list for not falling at the feet of Kirk? Seems words hurt a lot.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 11 minutes ago, Will B Good said: And yet......Kimmel, 63,000 people on a right wing hit list for not falling at the feet of Kirk? Seems words hurt a lot. Thread is about the UK.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 Just now, BritManToo said: Thread is about the UK. Pathetic response.....but I guess you are free to make it.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 It's great that people are seeing what a tyrant Keir Starmer and his army of comrades really are. It's also great that Trump et al. are keeping it in the news. Thanks Don.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 On 9/23/2025 at 1:08 PM, JonnyF said: The police defending the police and you believe it. What a surprise. Good lad. Just what they need. 😃 Simply put, the teen did not setup the account. She merely viewed the post. Then the police came round and made lots of unlawful moves like demanding the mother didn't film them, threatened her with "escalation", demanded entrance to the property without a warrant etc. Anyway a famous pro free speech YouTuber barrister has taken up their case pro bono. You can increase your knowledge of the case on his channel BlackBeltBarrister. <removed> I got the information from the article YOU posted, so if it's wrong, then why are you posting it? And on further investigation the only things I can find on the internet are other articles claiming that she WAS'NT arrested for what you say, but for creating a fake social media account which was then used 'to send indecent messages.' You are stating things as fact so if you have evidence to the contrary then lets see it - and I don't mean from some ' pro free speech YouTuber barrister' who has obviously an agenda and who's link is not even allowed on this site, hence the (removed) above. If you can find me a REPUTABLE source that backs your assertions, I'll apologise. I won't hold my breath though.
September 24, 2025Sep 24 3 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: I got the information from the article YOU posted, so if it's wrong, then why are you posting it? And on further investigation the only things I can find on the internet are other articles claiming that she WAS'NT arrested for what you say, but for creating a fake social media account which was then used 'to send indecent messages.' You are stating things as fact so if you have evidence to the contrary then lets see it - and I don't mean from some ' pro free speech YouTuber barrister' who has obviously an agenda and who's link is not even allowed on this site, hence the (removed) above. If you can find me a REPUTABLE source that backs your assertions, I'll apologise. I won't hold my breath though. They made illegal entry to her house. It's clear in the video of the YouTuber I mentioned. You can google it if you wish to learn something. It was not removed by mods. The part AN removed was me stating you were not well informed. I may have used different language to that though. It's all in the video. You clearly hear the mother telling them they cannot enter the house and then they simply push past her. I guess you'll "do a Chomps" though and refuse to watch it since it clearly proves you wrong. It also shows the police telling her she cannot film the encounter. She can. Best you don't watch it actually, might be a bit awkward for you. 😄 If you have any evidence of the child setting up the fake account feel free to post it. Look forward to your reasons why you won't watch the video 😆
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