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Thousands Rally Against Barracks Asylum Plan in East Sussex

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4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yet more unsubstantiated nonsense.

 

Starmer did not negotiate the BREXIT deal, the deal was done and signed before he came to office.

 

BREXIT is the failure it was predicted to be, refer ‘Project Fear’ despite being implemented by arch BREXITEER Boris Johnson.

 

The ECHR is not nor never has been an obstacle to dealing with small boat crossings, link provided above.

 

Reform (Farage) are making the same easy promises Farage made in the run up to BREXIT, and like BREXIT he waffles, slips, slimes and talks codswallop when asked to provide details.

 

Labour have lifted 450,000 children out of poverty, the markets have responded positively to the budget.

 

The rightwing aren’t happy, helping kids in poverty was never going to play well to their need for mendacity.

 

 

Starmer is now cosying up to the EU and trying to reverse BREXIT as much as possible.

 

Labour haven't lifted children out of poverty they have pandered to their welfare reliant voter base while forcing hard working Brits to pay for other people's kids. Money that is likely to be spent on more tats, cigarettes and ill-fitting leggings for their lazy, irresponsible voter base who prefer to squeeze out 6 kids than do a hard days work. Of course, Labour are well aware which Demographics tend to have 3 or more children so that fits perfectly with their other anti British policies. It's a bribe to the type of losers that vote Labour. 

 

They should change their name from the Labour party to the Welfare party.  

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4 hours ago, Purdey said:

I still don't understand why the Conservative party started all this migration but the Labour party is taking the brunt of the criticism.

 

Maybe this guy had something to do with the mess the uk is in now.

What a specimen he was,  he sold us all down the river. 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Maybe this guy had something to do with the mess the uk is in now.

What a specimen he was,  he sold us all down the river. 

 

 

 

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The small boats problem started under the Tories as a direct result of BREXIT.

 

Nothing at all to do with Tony Blair,

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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The small boats problem started under the Tories as a direct result of BREXIT.

 

The problem was going on long before Brexit   they used to get smuggled in on lorries and containers through the channel tunnel.

Tony B liar has a lot to answer for his illegal weapons of mass destruction war of lies in Iraq.

12 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Maybe this guy had something to do with the mess the uk is in now.

What a specimen he was,  he sold us all down the river. 

 

 

 

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What did he do to send you down the river......?  🤫

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14 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Maybe this guy had something to do with the mess the uk is in now.

What a specimen he was,  he sold us all down the river. 

 

 

 

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Yep. Pure Evil.

 

4 minutes ago, transam said:

What did he do to send you down the river......?  🤫

 

This ring a bell, transman.

Tony Blair did not have a single, definitive catchphrase, but several recurring phrases are strongly associated with him, such as "New Labour, new Britain," and "the hand of history". Other memorable quotes include "The buck stops here" and "for the many, not the few".  :coffee1:

Just now, quake said:

 

This ring a bell, transman.

Tony Blair did not have a single, definitive catchphrase, but several recurring phrases are strongly associated with him, such as "New Labour, new Britain," and "the hand of history". Other memorable quotes include "The buck stops here" and "for the many, not the few". 

It's 'transam', chum.........😉

 

But what did he do to send you down the river, a really simple question..........🤫

10 minutes ago, transam said:

It's 'transam', chum.........😉

 

But what did he do to send you down the river, a really simple question..........🤫

 

He sold the whole of Britain down the river on multiple fronts, Sam.

Just now, JonnyF said:

 

He sold the whole of Britain down the river on multiple fronts, Sam.

Weeeell, I haven't yet had real answer, what did he do, I recall the Iraq thing, but how was Quake sent down the river..........🤗

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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Actually it isn't a failure it's just that we haven't utilized it as much as we could have done due to sabotage by Remainer PM's like May, Starmer etc.

 

That's just another way of saying that Brexit wasn't implemented correctly!😂

 

It always somebody's else's fault. No accountability or responsibility taken. The Johnson and Truss administrations were Brexiter and had large majorities. Why couldn't they make a success of Brexit? I'm pre-empt the excuse of COVID and/or the Ukraine war. Of course, these issues preoccupied the PM, Home Secretary and Foreign Secretary, but what about the Trade departments, parts of the Treasury, etc. Why couldn't they come up with a plan for making Brexit work? How about Rees-Mog.g, arch-Brexiter; wasn't he meant to be Minister for the Bonfire of EU legislation or some such nonsense? What did he achieve? Zero.

 

The truth is that Brexit was never going to deliver the promised sunny uplands.

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Strawman, nobody has said it will immediately cease. But it will remove another obstacle to dealing with illegal immigration properly. 

 

And again with the misplaced Strawman. Exactly how will leaving the ECHR stop people getting in a boat and setting off for Southern England?

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Reform has a lot more answers to Britain's problems than Labour that's for sure. 

 

Really? Such as? 

 

I suppose that it is to Reform's credit that they have realised that the economic policies, which they proposed 6 months ago are completely impractical. The problem is that they haven't replaced them with anything.

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

I think even you would concede that Labour have been a complete disaster  disappointment?

 

Absolutely. I was left with a sense of foreboding when Labour's manifesto promised no tax increases on workers. You didn't need to have access to the 'Blue Book' to realise that promise should not have been made and wouldn't be kept. Throw in a completely shambolic PR performance and this government is not far off being the complete disaster that you suggest that it is.

 

However, imo Reform, The One Show (or whatever they call themselves) and the Greens aren't the answer: They would make a bad situation, worse.

 

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Over several Governments’.

 

This wasn’t an issue 15 years ago.

 

So which particular Governments did you have in mind?

About the time Mandelson and Blair sent out search parties to bring as many military age male muslims to Britain. Remember that? They said it was to "rub the right's nose in diversity". Hows that working out for Labour & sentiment to illegal immigrants? No answer needed🤣

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

About the time Mandelson and Blair sent out search parties to bring as many military age male muslims to Britain. Remember that? They said it was to "rub the right's nose in diversity". Hows that working out for Labour & sentiment to illegal immigrants? No answer needed🤣

How is it working out...?  🤫

Lots of cock and bull about importing immigrants to take British jobs.

Britain imported West Indian workers primarily to address the labor shortages in the post-World War II recovery period. The British government sought to fill the gap left by the war's devastation and the subsequent decline in the British workforce. The Empire Windrush ship, which arrived in 1948, symbolized this migration, bringing nearly 500 Caribbean passengers to Britain. The workers were recruited for various sectors, including the transport system, postal service, and health service, as Britain was rebuilding and needed skilled labor to restore the economy. 
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3 minutes ago, transam said:

How is it working out...?  🤫

It's made sir Tommy of Luton the most popular politician/journalist in the country. Bet your delighted about that sunbeam🤣

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

It's made sir Tommy of Luton the most popular politician/journalist in the country. Bet your delighted about that sunbeam🤣

Who.....?  🤔

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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Starmer is now cosying up to the EU and trying to reverse BREXIT as much as possible.

 

  

 

But he's not doing enough!  Rejoining the Customs Union should be a priority.  Hopefully a Labour-Lib Dem-Green- SNP coalition will be the result of the next election. 🙏

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Farage fooled you once but you beg for more.

 

Since 1980 the ECHR has prevented the Deporting a grand total of 13 individuals.

 

The ECHR is not a problem for immigration control, it is a problem for the far right.

 

Since 1980, only 13 cases have found that a UK deportation or extradition would violate the Convention, with just four concerning family life. In the past 45 years, the Court has ruled against the UK's immigration rules only three times, in cases involving discrimination.”

 

 

https://www.ein.org.uk/news/academic-report-exposes-inaccuracies-media-reporting-immigration-and-human-rights-law#:~:text=Since 1980%2C only 13 cases,law is placed at risk."

Indeed, it is not the ECHR that is the problem, it is the Geneva Convention. The convention states that anyone guilty of a criminal act is not entitled to refugee status, which would apply to all boat crossings.

However the convention also  states that those entering a country to seek assylum shouldn't be penalised.   

The government in it's wisdom goes not allow any legal route,  effectively giving amnesty to all boat crossings.

Sounds to me that a special ferry where those with a legitimate claim could be assessed  on a slow crossing, with selective disembarkation, would solve the problem. All boats would then be open to immediate deportation. 

5 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

Why does it have to be anyone's front yard?

 

Indeed, nobody wants them. and you can't blame them.

Problem is what to with them, my vote would be to send the to the Falklands.

 

Most people live in the capital, Stanley (around 2,800 residents), or in the scattered rural settlements known as “camp” (the local term for anywhere outside Stanley). Large parts of East and West Falkland have virtually no permanent residents at all — just sheep farms, penguins, and military installations.

 

So there you go!!:biggrin:

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Indeed, it is not the ECHR that is the problem, it is the Geneva Convention. The convention states that anyone guilty of a criminal act is not entitled to refugee status, which would apply to all boat crossings.

However the convention also  states that those entering a country to seek assylum shouldn't be penalised.   

The government in it's wisdom goes not allow any legal route,  effectively giving amnesty to all boat crossings.

Sounds to me that a special ferry where those with a legitimate claim could be assessed  on a slow crossing, with selective disembarkation, would solve the problem. All boats would then be open to immediate deportation. 

The government in it's wisdom goes not allow any legal route,  effectively giving amnesty to all boat crossings.”

 

Correction, there were legal routes, the Tories cancelled them leaving no option but ‘illegal routes’.


The ‘small boat problem’ was created by the Tories.

1 hour ago, Purdey said:

Britain was rebuilding and needed skilled labor to restore the economy.

Cheap labour   continuing to this day

3 minutes ago, johng said:

Cheap labour   continuing to this day

If an immigrant, who are told doesn’t speak English and has no intention of learning, climbs out of a rubber dinghy, forgoes the five star hotel and piles of free handouts to somehow use sign language to successfully get the message across that he wants to take your job off you, then succeeds in doing so, then yes  I agree, you definitely do have a problem but it’s not the immigrant.

 

 

The immigrant is used as cheap labour   they don't need to speak English as they have  compatriots already imbedded in the the industries they  take over  this was especially  evident with the Polish

migrants to the UK   yes they are hard workers and I worked with a couple they will work for less and without objection to any hardship

because its better than whence they came   so won't complain about the hardships  which just emboldens unscrupulous employers

(well yes they have to make a profit somehow)

and further pushes out 'native' workers who rightly think it's not worth working under those conditions for such low pay.

Off course there are and always have been some 'scroungers' who will not work and after the Covidiocy many more who were told they are non essential  so why the heck go back to work after that ??  add in the aging population 

the need for cheap immigrant labour is  obvious ?

7 hours ago, Purdey said:

Lots of cock and bull about importing immigrants to take British jobs.

Britain imported West Indian workers primarily to address the labor shortages in the post-World War II recovery period. The British government sought to fill the gap left by the war's devastation and the subsequent decline in the British workforce. The Empire Windrush ship, which arrived in 1948, symbolized this migration, bringing nearly 500 Caribbean passengers to Britain. The workers were recruited for various sectors, including the transport system, postal service, and health service, as Britain was rebuilding and needed skilled labor to restore the economy. 
The University of Warwick

If labour was so in demand in Britain after WW2 to address 'the labor shortages' as you say, why were over 200K Brits (some sources eg Wikipedia say 1 million) encouraged to emigrate to Australia between 1945 and 1972 - the so-called '£10 POMs'?

There were also the thousands of demobbed returning British soldiers who needed employment.

18 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

So nice to read a refreshing, Christian viewpoint first thing in the morning.

 Christians in England? You must be joking. Judeo Freemasonry is the official religion of England. 

 

 

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When Poland joined the EU in 2004 the UK was one of the few EU members that opened its labor market to the new member states immediately. That accounted for a large number of Poles arriving in the UK.

 

There are a few Polish families near where I live and they have integrated well all appear to be polite hard working and an asset to the UK.

22 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Truth is Chomps, the British people don't want them anywhere on the British Isles.

 

Never voted for it. Never expressed support for it.

 

The betrayal of the country by successive British governments over the past few decades is a national disgrace. 

 

Strangely ,vast numbers of them have the 'right to vote'...And both Labour and the Tories are only too well aware of this fact.......

12 hours ago, johng said:

The immigrant is used as cheap labour   they don't need to speak English as they have  compatriots already imbedded in the the industries they  take over  this was especially  evident with the Polish

migrants to the UK   yes they are hard workers and I worked with a couple they will work for less and without objection to any hardship

because its better than whence they came   so won't complain about the hardships  which just emboldens unscrupulous employers

(well yes they have to make a profit somehow)

and further pushes out 'native' workers who rightly think it's not worth working under those conditions for such low pay.

Off course there are and always have been some 'scroungers' who will not work and after the Covidiocy many more who were told they are non essential  so why the heck go back to work after that ??  add in the aging population 

the need for cheap immigrant labour is  obvious ?

If you want better wages join a union.

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4 hours ago, Bannoi said:

When Poland joined the EU in 2004 the UK was one of the few EU members that opened its labor market to the new member states immediately. That accounted for a large number of Poles arriving in the UK.

 

There are a few Polish families near where I live and they have integrated well all appear to be polite hard working and an asset to the UK.

And when the UK left the EU, Poles and other EU citizens left in their tens of thousands and the Tory government went cap in hand to beg India for very low cost workers to replace them.


BREXIT sent the European immigrants home and replaced them with people from India, Africa and the Middle East.

 

Warmings this would happen are filed under ‘Project Fear’.

 

 

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