December 18, 2025Dec 18 Obama... Obama years lol Mr Obama will be lucky to avoid a jail cell for treason
December 18, 2025Dec 18 On 12/17/2025 at 1:39 PM, CallumWK said: False claim, Biden suffered from the biggest pandemic in 40 years. A pandemic started, and ignored, during Trump's term Obama inherited the biggest unemployment from a republican president. Facts matter Susan Operation Warpspeed was "ignoring" the pandemic?😅 remember when the lefty narrative was it would take many years if not decades to develop a vax, and they censored any notion of lableak? Trump was right. Trump is always right.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 9 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said: You might want to acquaint yourself with the type of false reason called Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc. Namely, after this therefore because of this. What follows is an inflation graph of the EU: I suppose Biden is to blame for EU inflation, too? And for the high inflation that plagued most of the rest of the world in the wake of covid?
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December 18, 2025Dec 18 Author 25 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said: Idiocy In other words, you have nothing!
December 18, 2025Dec 18 Author 26 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said: And it only happened in the US? https://rsmus.com/insights/economics/inflation-persists-across-the-g7-economies.html
December 18, 2025Dec 18 18 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Operation Warpspeed was "ignoring" the pandemic?😅 remember when the lefty narrative was it would take many years if not decades to develop a vax, and they censored any notion of lableak? Trump was right. Trump is always right. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently said that a COVID-19 could take 12 to 18 months to develop, test and approve for public use. But new vaccines typically take years to earn approval — can we really expect a coronavirus vaccine to be ready by summer 2021? https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-timeline.htm And by the way, only one of the 2 Covid mRNA vaccines was developed in the USA. The other was made by BioNTech, a German company which then authorized Pfizer to manufacture it and use it in trials in the USA and ultimately sell it in the USA. It was the first mRNA vaccine to be fully approved.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 Author 20 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Operation Warpspeed was "ignoring" the pandemic?😅 remember when the lefty narrative was it would take many years if not decades to develop a vax, and they censored any notion of lableak? Trump was right. Trump is always right. You are making stuff up, as usual. Which lefties claimed it would take many years, if not decades to develop a vax?
December 18, 2025Dec 18 Author 3 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said: The United States is banker to the world. It is the world's reserve currency. I give up. You people are <deleted> dumber than a bag of horse shi+ In other words, you still have nothing, apart from lame insults Bye bye!
December 18, 2025Dec 18 1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said: Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, recently said that a COVID-19 could take 12 to 18 months to develop, test and approve for public use. But new vaccines typically take years to earn approval — can we really expect a coronavirus vaccine to be ready by summer 2021? https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-timeline.htm And by the way, only one of the 2 Covid mRNA vaccines was developed in the USA. The other was made by BioNTech, a German company which then authorized Pfizer to manufacture it and use it in trials in the USA and ultimately sell it in the USA. It was the first mRNA vaccine to be fully approved. Anthony Fauci is a proven serial liar. He'll be lucky to avoid prison
December 18, 2025Dec 18 Author Back to topic! The US labor market ground to a halt in 2025. The risk in 2026 is that it 'cracks.' https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-us-labor-market-ground-to-a-halt-in-2025-the-risk-in-2026-is-that-it-cracks-140026614.html
December 18, 2025Dec 18 7 minutes ago, MarcusAurelius said: Anthony Fauci is a proven serial liar. He'll be lucky to avoid prison Even if that was true, it has nothing to do with Sunny in Bangrak's assertion: "remember when the lefty narrative was it would take many years if not decades to develop a vax" And who's the Health and Human Services Secretary now?
December 18, 2025Dec 18 30 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Operation Warpspeed was "ignoring" the pandemic?😅 remember when the lefty narrative was it would take many years if not decades to develop a vax, and they censored any notion of lableak? Trump was right. Trump is always right. What makes your claim about covid vax genuinely the opposite of reality, is that it's MAGA supporters who overwhelmingly claim that the vaccine was developed too quickly to be safe. And in fact, the redder the area of the country, the lower the vaccination rate. Which is why,once the vaccines were introduced, the mortality rate in redder areas became correspondingly higher.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 Author Well, at least there will likely be a positive impact of the unemployment rate increase! Note that, under Biden, the Fed started to cut rates because inflation was decreasing, despite a good job market evolution. Under Trump, the Fed cuts rates because of disappointing job reports, despite inflation not decreasing! 'We are now firmly back in a good is bad/bad is good regime’: Weak job data may lead to more rate cuts and boost stocks, Morgan Stanley economist says https://fortune.com/2025/12/15/morgan-stanley-michael-wilson-job-data-good-news-rate-cuts-fed/
December 18, 2025Dec 18 3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Operation Warpspeed was "ignoring" the pandemic?😅 remember when the lefty narrative was it would take many years if not decades to develop a vax, and they censored any notion of lableak? Trump was right. Trump is always right. Sunny, you should stay out of the sun, as it obviously fries your brain
December 18, 2025Dec 18 On 12/17/2025 at 1:17 PM, Harrisfan said: The average annual unemployment rate during Barack Obama's presidency was 7.4%, which is relatively high compared to other post-World War II presidents. Hmm. Actually under Reagan in 1982 it hit 10.8% and in 1975 under Ford it was 9%.. Notice a political pattern?
December 18, 2025Dec 18 1 hour ago, ronnie50 said: Hmm. Actually under Reagan in 1982 it hit 10.8% and in 1975 under Ford it was 9%.. Notice a political pattern? Jimmy Carter faced severe inflation during his presidency from 1977 to 1981, with the average year-over-year inflation rate reaching 9.85%, the highest among U.S. presidents to date. Inflation peaked at 14.78% in 1980, Funny how you missed Carter 5555
December 18, 2025Dec 18 4 hours ago, candide said: And it only happened in the US? https://rsmus.com/insights/economics/inflation-persists-across-the-g7-economies.html Chart shows low inflation in Japan. Funny you can't read charts.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 4 hours ago, candide said: Back to topic! The US labor market ground to a halt in 2025. The risk in 2026 is that it 'cracks.' https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-us-labor-market-ground-to-a-halt-in-2025-the-risk-in-2026-is-that-it-cracks-140026614.html Lefty news.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 37 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Yep worst since Carter and just as dumb. Oh, Suze.....😂
December 18, 2025Dec 18 On 12/17/2025 at 6:17 AM, Harrisfan said: The average annual unemployment rate during Barack Obama's presidency was 7.4%, which is relatively high compared to other post-World War II presidents. Perhaps you've forgotten, as you might have been on public assistance back then and not gainfully employed nor with bank accounts and investments, but..... A little thing happened in 2008 called the Financial Crisis. Banks loaded up on subprime loans, giving mortgages to people with 450 FICO scores whose monthly income failed to cover their mortgage. Those mortgages got packaged into CDOs and CDO Squareds, and then IBs built synthetic CDO Squareds with CDS yield enhancers, which many fund managers and insurance companies bought en masse. Obama inherited that mess, and in March of 200, the world's financial system was days away from total collapse, along with the insurance industry. Obama forced banks to slash leverage and issue new capital, and he backstopped banks and auto companies. The world was saved. It took time to recover, but recover it did, but when Obama left office the market was at new highs, UE had fallen to 4.8% and the economy was growing. Trump inherited that, and then proceeded to blow it, leaving true carnage for Biden to clean up. Trump is doing what he does best now...blowing it yet again.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 5 minutes ago, Wingate said: Perhaps you've forgotten, as you might have been on public assistance back then and not gainfully employed nor with bank accounts and investments, but..... A little thing happened in 2008 called the Financial Crisis. Banks loaded up on subprime loans, giving mortgages to people with 450 FICO scores whose monthly income failed to cover their mortgage. Those mortgages got packaged into CDOs and CDO Squareds, and then IBs built synthetic CDO Squareds with CDS yield enhancers, which many fund managers and insurance companies bought en masse. Obama inherited that mess, and in March of 200, the world's financial system was days away from total collapse, along with the insurance industry. Obama forced banks to slash leverage and issue new capital, and he backstopped banks and auto companies. The world was saved. It took time to recover, but recover it did, but when Obama left office the market was at new highs, UE had fallen to 4.8% and the economy was growing. Trump inherited that, and then proceeded to blow it, leaving true carnage for Biden to clean up. Trump is doing what he does best now...blowing it yet again. The economy stalled when he finished. Trump economy in 2019 was the best for 50 years. You are a proven liar.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 1 hour ago, Harrisfan said: Yep worst since Carter and just as dumb. Since you're not economically savvy, I'll try my best to help. Trump ran up $8,400.000.000.000 in new debt during his first term. That's $25,000 for every American. MAGAs might think inflation is like a light switch, but people with intellect know inflation is a process. It doesn't start in one day. That new $25,000 per person takes time to filter through the economy. Biden just happened to be POTUS when the effect of Trump's spendthrift behavior showed up. Biden did get it down to around 2.3% when he left office. It has since risen, as Trump's tariffs have a much more immediate impact than new debt. The effects filter through to prices much faster.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 Just now, Wingate said: Since you're not economically savvy, I'll try my best to help. Trump ran up $8,400.000.000.000 in new debt during his first term. That's $25,000 for every American. MAGAs might think inflation is like a light switch, but people with intellect know inflation is a process. It doesn't start in one day. That new $25,000 per person takes time to filter through the economy. Biden just happened to be POTUS when the effect of Trump's spendthrift behavior showed up. Biden did get it down to around 2.3% when he left office. It has since risen, as Trump's tariffs have a much more immediate impact than new debt. The effects filter through to prices much faster. Real gross domestic product (GDP) in the United States grew by 2.3 percent year-on-year in 2017, compared to a 1.5 percent increase in 2016. You are a liar dude.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 1 minute ago, Harrisfan said: The economy stalled when he finished. Trump economy in 2019 was the best for 50 years. You are a proven liar. LOL! Not even close. The best economy in 50 years was during Clinton's time in office. Trump wasn't even in the top 70% of economies since the end of WWII---even BEFORE Covid. Because Trump says something, that doesn't mean it's true. Do try to keep up, fella.
December 18, 2025Dec 18 8 minutes ago, Wingate said: Perhaps you've forgotten, as you might have been on public assistance back then and not gainfully employed nor with bank accounts and investments, but..... A little thing happened in 2008 called the Financial Crisis. Banks loaded up on subprime loans, giving mortgages to people with 450 FICO scores whose monthly income failed to cover their mortgage. Those mortgages got packaged into CDOs and CDO Squareds, and then IBs built synthetic CDO Squareds with CDS yield enhancers, which many fund managers and insurance companies bought en masse. Obama inherited that mess, and in March of 200, the world's financial system was days away from total collapse, along with the insurance industry. Obama forced banks to slash leverage and issue new capital, and he backstopped banks and auto companies. The world was saved. It took time to recover, but recover it did, but when Obama left office the market was at new highs, UE had fallen to 4.8% and the economy was growing. Trump inherited that, and then proceeded to blow it, leaving true carnage for Biden to clean up. Trump is doing what he does best now...blowing it yet again. The unemployment rate reached a 50-year low of 3.5 percent by December 2019, reflecting strong job creation over the period. The economy added approximately 6 million jobs since Trump took office, with average monthly job gains of around 175,000 in 2019. The labor force participation rate for adults aged 25–54 rose to 82.9 percent by December 2019, indicating a growing share of the working-age population in the labor market. Real median household income increased to $68,703 by 2019, marking a rise from $56,969 in 2014, while the poverty rate declined to 10.5 percent, the lowest level on record at that time
December 18, 2025Dec 18 1 minute ago, Wingate said: LOL! Not even close. The best economy in 50 years was during Clinton's time in office. Trump wasn't even in the top 70% of economies since the end of WWII---even BEFORE Covid. Because Trump says something, that doesn't mean it's true. Do try to keep up, fella. So easy to prove you wrong. You are the biggest phony on here. The unemployment rate reached a 50-year low of 3.5 percent by December 2019, reflecting strong job creation over the period. The economy added approximately 6 million jobs since Trump took office, with average monthly job gains of around 175,000 in 2019. The labor force participation rate for adults aged 25–54 rose to 82.9 percent by December 2019, indicating a growing share of the working-age population in the labor market. Real median household income increased to $68,703 by 2019, marking a rise from $56,969 in 2014, while the poverty rate declined to 10.5 percent, the lowest level on record at that time
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