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Some Idle Speculation About Possible Outcomes from Trump's Reversal

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Trump now finds himself in quite a pickle. To avoid electoral disaster at home, the prospect of massive destruction of infrastructure in the Gulf States has to be averted. So now he's backing down. But now that the Iranians have seen him backing down, what's to stop them from demanding that Israel cease the destruction too? If not, the Iranians can start to implement their threat. Which would create a split between Trump and Netanyahu. Netanyahu wouldn't have much choice but to acquiesce ultimately. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. In some ways this bears similarity to the situation in Venezuela: a big difference between initial demands and ultimate outcome.

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  • He can't be in talks with Iran, by his own admission he's killed all of the leaders.

  • I don't know what AI is saying but you must be sooo tired defending this TACO idiot, am I right??

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I hear Trump will save the Iranian people and finish off the mullahs by airlifting thereligious whackjobs pallets of billions of $$ in used banknotes. The gold standard of overthrowing rogue leftist regimes.

What sayeth AI?

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Just now, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear Trump will save the Iranian people and finish off the mullahs by airlifting thereligious whackjobs pallets of billions of $$ in used banknotes. The gold standard of overthrowing rogue leftist regimes.

What sayeth AI?

I don't know what AI is saying but you must be sooo tired defending this TACO idiot, am I right??cheesy

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Clearly the end of Trump is near

When this utter fiasco is over he'll be impeached

5 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Clearly the end of Trump is near

When this utter fiasco is over he'll be impeached

For cheating in an election by colluding with Russia, or for factually accurately stating the Burisma Biden and family were involved in shady business in Ukraine? Sounds familiar....

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He can't be in talks with Iran, by his own admission he's killed all of the leaders.

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1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

For cheating in an election by colluding with Russia? Sounds familiar....

Yep, throw than is as well.

PS. You're itching to write about THE LAPTOP, aren't you!🤣

What's going on here is Trump-created world chaos. Chaos created by one man. He must be removed, and at this point I don't care how, or by who.

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13 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear Trump will save the Iranian people and finish off the mullahs by airlifting thereligious whackjobs pallets of billions of $$ in used banknotes. The gold standard of overthrowing rogue leftist regimes.

What sayeth AI?

I hear that he's allowing to be sold all Iranian oil already in tankers. That could be worth up to $14.5 billion dollars.

U.S. allows 30-day sale of Iran oil at sea in bid to tame prices

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/20/us-issues-30-day-sanctions-waiver-for-sale-of-iranian-oil-at-sea.html

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy? That sounds like treason.

Who's this witch that is supposed to be continuing all week?

Read the below sentence and think about it for a while. This is the point we're at, and it needs to change. We can not go on like this for another 2 years and 9 months.

No way.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I hear that he's allowing to be sold all Iranian oil already in tankers. That could be worth up to $14.5 billion dollars.

U.S. allows 30-day sale of Iran oil at sea in bid to tame prices

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/20/us-issues-30-day-sanctions-waiver-for-sale-of-iranian-oil-at-sea.html

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy? That sounds like treason.

Well, he's a traitor so that's right up his alley.

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For the US and Trump, the real problem is logistics.

It's one thing to prosecute military action or blockades with someone right in your back garden, such as Venezuala or Cuba. It's quite another to attempt the same action with a country half a world away.

Logistics beat Napoleon and the Nazis. Appalling logistics turned Putin's invasion of Ukraine from a two week operation to a 4 year slog, with no end in sight. Superior logistics broke the Russian blockade of Berlin.

History repeats itself.

52 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I hear Trump will save the Iranian people and finish off the mullahs by airlifting thereligious whackjobs pallets of billions of $$ in used banknotes. The gold standard of overthrowing rogue leftist regimes.

What sayeth AI?

I wonder what they will say when Iran is a functioning country allied with the USA and Israel. I wonder what Kamran Hakim is up to?

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8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I wonder what they will say when Iran is a functioning country allied with the USA and Israel. I wonder what Kamran Hakim is up to?

I wonder what you'll say if the Iranian government stays in power and keeps its nuclear stockpile? I expect it will be something like what you said when Trump didn't overthrow the Venezuelan government, which he called a narcotics cartel, and decided not to support democracy for the Venezuelan people people. As I recall, what you said was nothing.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I wonder what you'll say if the Iranian government stays in power and keeps its nuclear stockpile?

Quote me. Screen shot it. Wont happen and if it does (both) I will withdraw my support for Trumps quality as a President, although I will still vote Republican since I can never vote for a Democrat from a party whose platform denies reality.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I expect it will be something like what you said when Trump didn't overthrow the Venezuelan government, which he called a narcotics cartel, and decided not to support democracy for the Venezuelan people people. As I recall, what you said was nothing.

Venezuela is coming along nicely I hear. Start a topic Ill be glad to respond.

Soon Cuba will be done.

Winning is fabulous! If only Man U hadnt have gotten robbed on the penalty on Ahmad last week!

2 hours ago, connda said:

He can't be in talks with Iran, by his own admission he's killed all of the leaders.

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Guess Sgt. Hartoonian is now in charge.

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4 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

To avoid electoral disaster at home, the prospect of massive destruction of infrastructure in the Gulf States has to be averted.

Trust me. He's screwed, blued, and tattooed. This is epic FUBAR. Nobody will win, everybody is going to lose. I hope Trump loses both the House and Senate in November and that he's impeached and thrown out of office. But man? I'm betting he can totally **** the entire world up before November. And the US as well.

3 hours ago, connda said:

Trust me. He's screwed, blued, and tattooed. This is epic FUBAR. Nobody will win, everybody is going to lose. I hope Trump loses both the House and Senate in November and that he's impeached and thrown out of office. But man? I'm betting he can totally **** the entire world up before November. And the US as well.

Look at this from Jay-D's perspective. He's the one member of the cabinet who cannot be sacked.

If he pushes through the 25th Amendment between now and these elections, that will probably help the vote a bit. He's notably kept his powder dry throughout this crisis. There is some talk he might be involved in talks, in Pakistan, and an Iranian name to look out for is Mohammad Reza Aref.

With a Acting President Hillbilly come November, undoubtedly the GOP will do a lot lot better than current polls suggest. He might persuade those GOP Never Trumpers to vote.

BUT becoming President now means the remainder of this term will count as one term, and so he can only stand for election as President once. Press the coup button after the mid-terms, and he gets two shots. But the US might be basically ungovernable for the rest of this term. So he won't get as much done as he obviously wants.

Pam Bondi is the person making a Section 4 vote (effectively a vote of confidence) less likely. The trigger group would be Vance and Kennedy, Rubio certainly, Gabbard. A new AG, and Vance can get the 7 votes necessary. Hegseth's name is going to be Mud; his department exaggerated BDAs (Iran has kept firing missiles and drones a week after he had told the world they were wiped out) at enormous cost. How does a country with no navy block the Straits of Hormuz, and reduces the world's largest naval power to begging for help from the Netherlands? And there is still Signalgate.

Atentat please

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I wonder what they will say when Iran is a functioning country allied with the USA and Israel. I wonder what Kamran Hakim is up to?

I don’t know,why don’t you ask the Iraqis hummm?or perhaps the afghans ehh???Don’t kid yourself yagoda that’s magical thinking unfortunately.what this is…I will say it nicely this (amateur) has created a mess that will be getting Americans killed for many decades his (magical thinking) will inspire Islamic jahadies to kill Americans for decades.don’t start bleating about nukes I’m sure their ally N Korea has probably allready gifted them a few.heres a thought for ya with the felons repeal of the jones act the Iranians can now sail directly to the USA with their own ships…….what could possibly go wrong…….

4 minutes ago, Tug said:

I don’t know,why don’t you ask the Iraqis hummm?

Better than under Saddam LOL

5 minutes ago, Tug said:

I will say it nicely this (amateur) has created a mess that will be getting Americans killed for many decades his (magical thinking) will inspire Islamic jahadies to kill Americans for decades

Got it. Dont provoke the scumbags that hate you and want to kill you simply because you exist. Sorry your side lost

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Better than under Saddam LOL

Got it. Dont provoke the scumbags that hate you and want to kill you simply because you exist. Sorry your side lost

Nonsense and this isn’t about political party it’s about the worlds economic engine and how it affects the peoples of our earth.The felons actions will do nothing to change the Iranians hate towards America in fact it will inspire more resolve for revenge…..that’s not a winning solution.

3 minutes ago, Tug said:

Nonsense and this isn’t about political party it’s about the worlds economic engine and how it affects the peoples of our earth.The felons actions will do nothing to change the Iranians hate towards America in fact it will inspire more resolve for revenge…..that’s not a winning solution.

Got it, better to let them try to destroy the USA

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it, better to let them try to destroy the USA

Ask yourself if your idols lover little Kim over in N Korea he’s gots lots of nukes why he has more and more every day!who could possibly forget when the felon saluted the enemy general…..the look of surprise and joy on little Kim’s face was priceless.he realized he was dealing with an imbecile.

9 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ask yourself if your idols lover little Kim over in N Korea he’s gots lots of nukes why he has more and more every day!who could possibly forget when the felon saluted the enemy general…..the look of surprise and joy on little Kim’s face was priceless.he realized he was dealing with an imbecile.

Is he your new hero then? Now that Iran is finished.

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Is he your new hero then? Now that Iran is finished.

Nope he is an enemy that your hero squandered decades of of work done by experts for a nonsense photo op…you know the guy your hero said they fell in love….remember?anyway enough time wasted time to shake a leg!!got the 3 mile walk to get to with my lovely wife.

10 hours ago, connda said:

He can't be in talks with Iran, by his own admission he's killed all of the leaders.

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If anyone actually believes a poorly educated idiot that cannot spell the word 'which' is in charge, then I don't know what to tell you. They are just a band of performers, scammers and grifters, with no honour at all. Likely using AI to plot their scams.

10 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I hear that he's allowing to be sold all Iranian oil already in tankers. That could be worth up to $14.5 billion dollars.

U.S. allows 30-day sale of Iran oil at sea in bid to tame prices

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/20/us-issues-30-day-sanctions-waiver-for-sale-of-iranian-oil-at-sea.html

Giving aid and comfort to the enemy? That sounds like treason.

But but but but but Obama!

Remember as part of the JCPOA, Obama allowed $1.5 billion in frozen Iranian assets to be returned to Iran, in exchange for Iran to halt all uranium enrichment and be limited to a mere 300 kg of low enriched uranium (LEU).

Iran was 100% in compliance with the JCPOA terms and was out of the nuke game, until.....

Trump tossed the JCPOA.

Given Trump's relaxation of crude sale sanctions will give Iran $14.5 billion, I guess we now know why Trump abrogated the JCPOA: It just wasn't enough money to give Iran. What a generous man Trump is! Many people are saying nobody is as generous and magnanimous!

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Quote me. Screen shot it. Wont happen and if it does (both) I will withdraw my support for Trumps quality as a President, although I will still vote Republican since I can never vote for a Democrat from a party whose platform denies reality.

Venezuela is coming along nicely I hear. Start a topic Ill be glad to respond.

Soon Cuba will be done.

Winning is fabulous! If only Man U hadnt have gotten robbed on the penalty on Ahmad last week!

Yeah, good on you! Only a very naive and out of reality person would put real war and a world conflict together with a PL football match. Says all about you as usual.

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