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Gutting Vital Federal Organizations - FAFO.

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So the CDC's response to the outbreak of the very dangerous hantavirus has been dismal. I guess firing all the experts wasn't such a great idea after all.

Who could have imagined.......coffee1

'‘Empty and vapid’ CDC finally responds to hantavirus outbreak. But experts say it’s too little, too late'

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/may/09/cdc-hantavirus-who-cruise-ship-outbreak-response

The hantavirus outbreak was reported to the WHO on 2 May; a notice issued two days later updated to seven confirmed or suspected cases. Three people had died, one person was critically ill and three others had mild symptoms.

On Wednesday, the CDC said in a statement it was “closely monitoring the situation” and said the state department was leading a “whole-of-government response including direct contact with passengers, diplomatic coordination, and engagement with domestic and international health authorities”.

It wasn’t until Thursday that the CDC activated its 24/7 emergency center in Atlanta to monitor the recent hantavirus outbreak and classified it at its lowest activation level.

The hantavirus outbreak is “a sentinel event” that speaks to “how well the country is prepared for a disease threat, and right now, I’m very sorry to say that we are not prepared,” said Dr Jeanne Marrazzo, chief executive officer of the Infectious Diseases Society of America."

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    Whaddaya mean "disguised"? This dig is as disguised as Trump and his family's completely open and in-your-face corruption. It's a completely undisguised dig at the most incompetent administration in h

  • Effective altruism
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    The OP is trying to stir up <deleted>.

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    What Trump has done to USAID, and many other federal health agencies is an abomination. Trump’s most lethal policy will almost surely be his 71 percent cut in humanitarian aid from 2024 to 2025. A B

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Who knew gutting the CDC and firing their experts tasked with investigating outbreaks and conduct health inspections on cruise ships could possibly have real world consequences.

Oh, and Trump, in his infinite wisdom, yanked the US out the WHO who (among many other tasks) coordinate world wide responses during such events.

So just why did Trump do this? Simple, it's because he's stupid.

'CDC's cruise ship inspectors laid off amid bad year for outbreaks'

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-cruise-ship-inspectors-layoffs-outbreaks-norovirus/

"All of the full-time employees in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Vessel Sanitation Program are now off the job, multiple officials tell CBS News, gutting the agency's ability to investigate outbreaks and conduct health inspections on cruise ships. A smaller group of 12 U.S. Public Health Service officers will remain.

The steep cuts to the program's inspectors baffled CDC officials since the small team's staff is not paid for by taxpayer dollars. Fees from cruise ships companies pay for the program, which is supposed to inspect large vessels at least twice a year.*

The epidemiologist tasked with leading the agency's outbreak response on cruise ships was included in the layoffs, multiple CDC officials said. "

*My highlighting.

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The CDC does not require quarantine. Other countries look at it differently. But given the way the US FDA is allowing Americans to ingest substances that in Europe is considered carcinogenic, this is maybe not such a surprise.

'CDC: Quarantine not required for 17 Americans aboard the hantavirus cruise ship'

https://abcnews.com/International/live-updates/hantavirus-live-updates-mv-hondius-canary-islands

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The hantavirus is a non event. Stop fear mongering.

Its not COVID.

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7 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

The hantavirus is a non event. Stop fear mongering.

Its not COVID.

The OP is trying to stir up <deleted>.

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Just now, Effective altruism said:

The OP is trying to stir up <deleted>.

100%. And a disguised dig at the President. As usual.

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In last case of virus on cruise ship, CDC "special know how" stopped virus to become any problem at all, and nobody even heard of it. But some people just live and make money on problems, so now we have no more "special know how"...

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What Trump has done to USAID, and many other federal health agencies is an abomination.

Trump’s most lethal policy will almost surely be his 71 percent cut in humanitarian aid from 2024 to 2025. A Boston University researcher estimated that the aid cuts cost more than 750,000 lives worldwide in their first year. A recently published study in The Lancet, the British medical journal, forecast that at present rates the defunding will cost 9.4 million lives by 2030, including 2.5 million children under the age of 5.

Are these figures correct?

Exaggerated? I can’t be sure, and neither can Trump or anyone else, partly because the administration has cut data collection that might help us assess mortality accurately.

Meanwhile, Trump and his aides continue to take steps that will add to the toll.

The administration is now withholding aid for vaccines for poor countries in ways that may cost the lives of vast numbers of children. Trump slashed funding for an international vaccine alliance called Gavi, and now the administration is also refusing to release $600 million for Gavi that Congress has already appropriated and that must be spent by September.

Gavi is one of the most cost-effective aid programs in history. One study found that each dollar spent on vaccines in poor countries brings a return of $54 in reduced health costs and other benefits. I was once hospitalized with a serious case of malaria that I caught in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and I think it’s a miracle that a few doses of a $3 malaria vaccine can now save a Congolese child’s life — and a scandal that administration officials are willing to let such children die because of ideological hostility toward vaccines.

Gavi also pays for HPV vaccines that prevent cervical cancer, which kills more than 900 women every day worldwide. Cervical cancer is an excruciating, humiliating way to die — it is sometimes diagnosed partly by the odor of rotting flesh — yet a $4 vaccine can prevent it. Gavi’s vaccinations have already averted almost one million of these horrific deaths from cervical cancer.

Trump’s cuts have created a budget crisis for Gavi and other aid agencies. It has been magnified because European countries followed America’s lead with cuts to their own aid budgets. Gavi estimates that 600,000 lives will be unnecessarily lost by 2030 as a result. Think of your mother, wife, daughter; multiply by 600,000, and you glimpse the cost of Trump’s destruction of just the Gavi element of American aid.

The Trump administration is also, unintentionally, exacerbating global poverty with its catastrophic war with Iran, and not just because the war has displaced more than 2.2 million women and girls in Iran and Lebanon. Because of the war, diesel prices have risen 160 percent in Myanmar and 87 percent in Nigeria, while 40 percent of gas stations have closed in Laos, according to the United Nations. Rising fuel prices are increasing costs of transportation and thus food.

A new book, “Into the Wood Chipper,” recounts the reckless way in which DOGE officials dismantled the United States Agency for International Development. Written by Nicholas Enrich, a former top health official at the agency, it chronicles the “callousness, dishonesty and ineptitude” of Trump aides who destroyed programs that they didn’t understand.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/09/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

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5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

What Trump has done to USAID, and many other federal health agencies is an abomination.

Trump’s most lethal policy will almost surely be his 71 percent cut in humanitarian aid from 2024 to 2025. A Boston University researcher estimated that the aid cuts cost more than 750,000 lives worldwide in their first year. A recently published study in The Lancet, the British medical journal, forecast that at present rates the defunding will cost 9.4 million lives by 2030, including 2.5 million children under the age of 5.

Are these figures correct?

Exaggerated? I can’t be sure, and neither can Trump or anyone else, partly because the administration has cut data collection that might help us assess mortality accurately.

Meanwhile, Trump and his aides continue to take steps that will add to the toll.

The administration is now withholding aid for vaccines for poor countries in ways that may cost the lives of vast numbers of children. Trump slashed funding for an international vaccine alliance called Gavi, and now the administration is also refusing to release $600 million for Gavi that Congress has already appropriated and that must be spent by September.

Gavi is one of the most cost-effective aid programs in history. One study found that each dollar spent on vaccines in poor countries brings a return of $54 in reduced health costs and other benefits. I was once hospitalized with a serious case of malaria that I caught in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and I think it’s a miracle that a few doses of a $3 malaria vaccine can now save a Congolese child’s life — and a scandal that administration officials are willing to let such children die because of ideological hostility toward vaccines.

Gavi also pays for HPV vaccines that prevent cervical cancer, which kills more than 900 women every day worldwide. Cervical cancer is an excruciating, humiliating way to die — it is sometimes diagnosed partly by the odor of rotting flesh — yet a $4 vaccine can prevent it. Gavi’s vaccinations have already averted almost one million of these horrific deaths from cervical cancer.

Trump’s cuts have created a budget crisis for Gavi and other aid agencies. It has been magnified because European countries followed America’s lead with cuts to their own aid budgets. Gavi estimates that 600,000 lives will be unnecessarily lost by 2030 as a result. Think of your mother, wife, daughter; multiply by 600,000, and you glimpse the cost of Trump’s destruction of just the Gavi element of American aid.

The Trump administration is also, unintentionally, exacerbating global poverty with its catastrophic war with Iran, and not just because the war has displaced more than 2.2 million women and girls in Iran and Lebanon. Because of the war, diesel prices have risen 160 percent in Myanmar and 87 percent in Nigeria, while 40 percent of gas stations have closed in Laos, according to the United Nations. Rising fuel prices are increasing costs of transportation and thus food.

A new book, “Into the Wood Chipper,” recounts the reckless way in which DOGE officials dismantled the United States Agency for International Development. Written by Nicholas Enrich, a former top health official at the agency, it chronicles the “callousness, dishonesty and ineptitude” of Trump aides who destroyed programs that they didn’t understand.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/09/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

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And what has that got to do with the Hantavirus.

Just another crazed anti Trump speil.

True to form.

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8 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

The hantavirus is a non event. Stop fear mongering.

Its not COVID.

It's not COVID, but I'm not sure I'd call it a non event either. At least, not the Andes version. Unlike other types of hantavirus, it's already shown a propensity for human to human transmission, including in this outbreak.

And although the experts still say it requires prolonged and/or close contact to spread, it's a little worrying that one of the suspected cases is a 32 year old Spanish woman who was sitting on a plane two rows behind one of the confirmed cases for what is described as only a short time.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/spain-says-it-has-detected-suspected-hantavirus-case-alicante-2026-05-08/

1 minute ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

It's not COVID, but I'm not sure I'd call it a non event either. At least, not the Andes version. Unlike other types of hantavirus, it's already shown a propensity for human to human transmission, including in this outbreak.

And although the experts still say it requires prolonged and/or close contact to spread, it's a little worrying that one of the suspected cases is a 32 year old Spanish woman who was sitting on a plane two rows behind one of the confirmed cases for what is described as only a short time.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/spain-says-it-has-detected-suspected-hantavirus-case-alicante-2026-05-08/

Well that may change my opinion if it does prove very contagious. Thanks for the link. Should be dozens of other passengers infected on the plane if it is very transmissible.

With a fatality rate of 30-50% this could be a disaster.

Time will tell.

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Yep, nothing to see here, move along!

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1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

100%. And a disguised dig at the President. As usual.

That's his sole purpose on this forum.

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12 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

That's his sole purpose on this forum.

Still not done enough.

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1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

100%. And a disguised dig at the President. As usual.

Whaddaya mean "disguised"? This dig is as disguised as Trump and his family's completely open and in-your-face corruption. It's a completely undisguised dig at the most incompetent administration in history.

Hope this clarifies things.thumbsup

40 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

It's not COVID, but I'm not sure I'd call it a non event either. At least, not the Andes version. Unlike other types of hantavirus, it's already shown a propensity for human to human transmission, including in this outbreak.

And although the experts still say it requires prolonged and/or close contact to spread, it's a little worrying that one of the suspected cases is a 32 year old Spanish woman who was sitting on a plane two rows behind one of the confirmed cases for what is described as only a short time.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/spain-says-it-has-detected-suspected-hantavirus-case-alicante-2026-05-08/

37 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Well that may change my opinion if it does prove very contagious. Thanks for the link. Should be dozens of other passengers infected on the plane if it is very transmissible.

With a fatality rate of 30-50% this could be a disaster.

Time will tell.

It doesn't seem to be highly contagious but the death rate for this particular strain has been around 30%-40%.

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2 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

The OP is trying to stir up <deleted>.

Hes the guy the seriously posts that folks need ID to go to restaurants LOL. Hes a troll

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8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Hes the guy the seriously posts that folks need ID to go to restaurants LOL. Hes a troll

Not my words, but the words of the acting AG Todd Blanche, a rat who has a disbarment on his future bingo card.thumbsup

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17 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Not my words, but the words of the acting AG Todd Blanche, a rat who has a disbarment on his future bingo card.thumbsup

Oh fabulous which jurisdiction will disbar him? What will the grounds be?

Its amazing to me that a troll like you, who doubles down in stupidity every day, is allowed to post here. Hey hows BLM treating you?

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32 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Oh fabulous which jurisdiction will disbar him? What will the grounds be?

Its amazing to me that a troll like you, who doubles down in stupidity every day, is allowed to post here. Hey hows BLM treating you?

"....which jurisdiction will disbar him?"

In the case of Todd Blanche, that would be the New York State Bar Association.

"What will the grounds be?"

That would be for malicious prosecution, although the slimy thing also said "I love you, Sir" to Donald Trump, and in my book that's more than enough.

Hope this helps!thumbsup

Grok (AI):

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1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

Well that may change my opinion if it does prove very contagious. Thanks for the link. Should be dozens of other passengers infected on the plane if it is very transmissible.

With a fatality rate of 30-50% this could be a disaster.

Time will tell.

I actually had the same thought. If it had really become that easily transmissible, why is she the only other one showing symptoms?

One thing that struck me, is that the early symptoms are very similar to many other respiratory diseases, including flu and it's not confirmed that she has it (they're still awaiting test results) so it's possible she doesn't actually have it.

But if she does have it, I wonder if it could be that although she was seated two rows behind the woman with hantavirus, she came in close contact with her as she was boarding or leaving the plane.

56 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

"....which jurisdiction will disbar him?"

In the case of Todd Blanche, that would be the New York State Bar Association.

"What will the grounds be?"

That would be for malicious prosecution, although the slimy thing also said "I love you, Sir" to Donald Trump, and in my book that's more than enough.

Hope this helps!thumbsup

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Got it. Thought crime. Which malicious prosecution?

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15 hours ago, emptypockets said:

And what has that got to do with the Hantavirus.

Just another crazed anti Trump speil.

True to form.

Nope. It is all about preparedness for epidemics and the onset of disease, which the Trump Administration has weakened dramatically. If you can't see that connection I probably can't explain it to you.

I don't know what happened to the objective nature of some of his supporters, but when it gets to the point where any sort of criticizism is considered to be an anti-Trump craze, then you know we've lost perspective, and Society has simply deteriorated into a screaming mob of victims and snowflakes.

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52 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Nope. It is all about preparedness for epidemics and the onset of disease, which the Trump Administration has weakened dramatically. If you can't see that connection I probably can't explain it to you.

I don't know what happened to the objective nature of some of his supporters, but when it gets to the point where any sort of criticizism is considered to be an anti-Trump craze, then you know we've lost perspective, and Society has simply deteriorated into a screaming mob of victims and snowflakes.

Known as the Left/Democrats.

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18 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

The OP is trying to stir up <deleted>.

That is all he is good for, non stop American bashing, I hate the BLM,

I know! Instead of quarantining those affected on the ship, let's release them into the general population! thumbsup

Time to invest into whatever company is producing mRNA hantavirus vaccines that works against gain-of-function enhanced hantavirus.

Then create panic in the same population who still dutifully mask up while driving alone in their cars. biggrin 💉

1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

Known as the Left/Democrats.

I'm not sure who you're referring to but the biggest victim, and the grandest snowflake of them all is Donald Trump. Always complaining, always blaming others, never taking responsibility for anything, that's the definition of a snowflake and a victim. Big Don the snowflake.

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17 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Hes the guy the seriously posts that folks need ID to go to restaurants LOL. Hes a troll

Says a troll...

regards worgeordie

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Well the USA has done a good job of spreading Measles ,thanks to JFK jr.

they will also play down what the Hantavirus can do , just like they did

with Covid ,and thats why so many people lost their lives. gutting of the

CDC could lead to more exotic diseases arriving in U S A .

regards worgeordie

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Now, back on topic. There are reports of more passengers falling ill and testing positive. The authorities in the countries that have repatriated their citizens seem to take this quite seriously without blowing it out of proportions.

Even in the US the CDC (or rather, whatever is left of it) has been shamed into action, and all US passengers are headed to the USA's only federal quarantine facility in Nebraska.

'At least one American headed to Nebraska from hantavirus-hit ship presumed positive.'

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/10/us/hantavirus-cruise-passengers-nebraska-facility

"American passengers from the cruise ship at the center of the hantavirus outbreak, including at least one presumed positive case, are headed to a highly specialized quarantine unit in Nebraska for evaluation before eventually continuing on to their homes – and weeks of monitoring for symptoms of infection.

The passenger who tested positive does not have symptoms but will be taken directly to the biocontainment unit at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, the facility said late Sunday. The other passengers will go to the center’s National Quarantine Unit for assessment and monitoring."

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