10 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

You need to check out congress hearings in this matter which is stated as a fact that that the US knew it was a possible school and they had outdated intelligence. yet it was bombed to me that is NOT following procedure

"stated as a fact that that the US knew it was a possible school and they had outdated intelligence. yet it was bombed ".

So the buck stops with Hegseth and Trump.

Doubt there was any intention of bombing schoolgirls he is not Putin'

Unlike the clear intention to hang them for not having the right headwear in the turban world🤔

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

well lets see

the border is closed

the scum are being tossed

dc looks good

the iranians are prostate beneath our feet so the middle east is quiet

gas prices falling

employment up

investment up

markets up

tax policies favourable to folks in my bracket

gun rights recognized

racism being eliminated

the economy about to take off

democrat civil war

mortgage rates dropping

hows your life scrabbling on an aussie pension in a rural village. no wonder you resent americans, jews, and all those whose life is great

did you change pills recently

44 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

You need to check out congress hearings in this matter which is stated as a fact that that the US knew it was a possible school and they had outdated intelligence. yet it was bombed to me that is NOT following procedure

Please direct me to the Congressional hearing transcripts where it was acknowledged that the location was a known school.

thank you

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39 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Please direct me to the Congressional hearing transcripts where it was acknowledged that the location was a known school.

thank you

i think you are a big boy and can do yor own search i belive if it helps it was on youtube

6 hours ago, Mavideol said:

did you change pills recently

translation: i cant argue the facts, so like all folks driven insane by the winning, i will make a lame, juvenile attempt to insult, which makes me feel less of a loser european

10 hours ago, Palatus said:

Surely from the parents of the dead children and people around the world with a conscience also don't you think? Or don't you think?

life sucks sometime. its all a lottery and causation.

but none of your ilk care a hoot about the death of children, so your moral high ground is really a ditch in the ukraine or a rape tunnel under gaza

On 6/27/2026 at 4:13 PM, Bday Prang said:

Is anybody seriously suggesting that Trump personally ordered the bombing with the sole intent of killing schoolgirls ?

Is anybody unable to see that it was an unfortunate accident, and unable to understand that accidents can and will happen in a war zone?

What war zone?

Both parties were still in negotiations, and according to the mediator successfully.

15 hours ago, Yagoda said:

war is hell.

hence

don't make war.

2 minutes ago, papa al said:

hence

don't make war.

yep. the only certainty in war is folks die

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Please direct me to the Congressional hearing transcripts where it was acknowledged that the location was a known school.

thank you

The transcript for the House Armed Forces committee meeting of May 19th 2026 has not been published yet:

https://www.congress.gov/house-hearing-transcripts/119th-congress

Livestreamed video for your review:

https://www.dvidshub.net/video/1007465/military-leaders-testify-house-posture-middle-east-africa

Refer to 0:32:39 for the start of the exchange by the ranking member, Congressman Adam Smith, who has generally been excellent in these types of US committee meetings, which are generally appalling compared to the equivalent UK Parliamentary Committee meetings.

Refer to 1:17_08 for the start of the exchange between Congresswoman Jacobs (California) and Admiral Cooper, where Cooper confirmed newspaper reports regarding a leaked preliminary DoD report, that US forces had struck the Minab site, that it contained a school and they were at fault/

There is an unofficial transcript here, but there is no easy way to export it:

https://archive.org/details/CSPAN_20260524_044400_The_Hearing_Room_Military_Leaders_Testify_on_Military_Readiness_Amid_Iran...

This was a followup to the Senate Armed Services Committee meeting of 14 May 2026

https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/hearings/to-receive-testimony-on-the-posture-of-united-states-central-command-and-united-states-africa-command-in-review-of-the-defense-authorization-request-for-fiscal-year-2027-and-the-future-years-defense-program

Transcript:

https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/05-14-2026_full-transcript.pdf

There is a short discussion between Senator Gillibrand and Admiral Cooper regarding schools that may or may not have been struck.

I don't believe Trump would have ordered a girl school to be attacked. That would be the action of a mad man.

However, I agree that it was a mistake based on using old intelligence without asking the CIA to confirm the maps were current.

11 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

i think you are a big boy and can do yor own search i belive if it helps it was on youtube

You and I both know that you never read, nor saw evidence of an acknowledgement that the school was specifically targeted.

The girls' school was struck due to a fatal military targeting error. On February 28, 2026, an airstrike destroyed the Shajareh Tayyebeh elementary school in Minab, Iran, as part of a precision strike campaign on an adjacent Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) naval base. [1, 2, 3]

Preliminary investigations by the US military revealed that the attack was executed using outdated data. The school building had formerly been part of the military complex, and the US military's Central Command (CENTCOM) failed to update its targeting database to reflect the building's separation and transition to a girls' school. [1, 2]

The munitions used in the strike were identified as American cruise missiles. The tragic bombing resulted in the deaths of over 150 civilians, the majority of whom were young schoolgirls. [1, 2, 3]

The tragic event and its aftermath have been widely documented across news platforms:

• Background & Evidence: Learn more about the Al Jazeera Iran School Strike Coverage for details on the munitions used.

• Pentagon Investigation: Read the NBC News Outdated Intelligence Report for details on the targeting error.

• Amnesty International Response: Read the Amnesty International Statement to review concerns about civilian casualties. [1, 2, 3]

15 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Before any strike occurs, forces must use all feasible means to verify that the intended target is a lawful military objective

like the iranians dont do before they launch. like today. got some critism?

19 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Locating a school next to military facilities and having military personnel in close proximity did not help matters.

The military facility was a medical establishment, run by the Iranian Navy.

It is by no means unusual in many countries for such medical facilities to be situated amongst and serve the civil community, Thailand is rather a case in point.

As excuses go that is pathetic!

Tomahawk cruise missiles are precision weapons featuring a Circular Error Probable (CEP) of roughly 5 meters (16 feet). https://www.britannica.com/technology/Tomahawk-cruise-missile

So they could have bombed the military target at Minab but left the school untouched if they had accurate targeting data.

The sooner Trump, family and co, are removed to Hell the better for all humanity.

10 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

You and I both know that you never read, nor saw evidence of an acknowledgement that the school was specifically targeted.

US military revealed that the attack was executed using outdated data read the news or its all over u tube !! using outdated data is against protocol for firing a missile, but it comply s with Hegseth order No Quarter, kill them all This can be counted as a war crime fatal mistakes can cross the line into war crimes if military forces act with criminal negligence, disregard the rules of engagement, or launch attacks that fail to distinguish between civilians and combatants.

1 hour ago, MikeandDow said:

US military revealed that the attack was executed using outdated data read the news or its all over u tube !! using outdated data is against protocol for firing a missile, but it comply s with Hegseth order No Quarter, kill them all This can be counted as a war crime fatal mistakes can cross the line into war crimes if military forces act with criminal negligence, disregard the rules of engagement, or launch attacks that fail to distinguish between civilians and combatants.

No the US military did not "reveal" that the missile strike was executed using outdated data. Some people have made the claim. You are projecting your political bias.

There may very well have been inaccurate intelligence. errors happen in war. However, western military missile targeting relies on real time information. Because some person says that a google photo from 2013 was used, does not mean that the US military actually did that. The USA had active satellite intelligence and drone surveillance. It was real time. That's what 400+ intelligence capable satellites do. I am going to wait until the US military actually acknowledges the error.

9 hours ago, Yagoda said:

like the iranians dont do before they launch. like today. got some critism?

acting in response to the Israel actions in SL

6 hours ago, JAG said:

The military facility was a medical establishment, run by the Iranian Navy.

It is by no means unusual in many countries for such medical facilities to be situated amongst and serve the civil community, Thailand is rather a case in point.

As excuses go that is pathetic!

On what basis do you claim that a hospital was targeted at the Minab military installation? The only claim made to date is that a medical "clinic" was damaged. No supporting evidence for that claim was provided.

Which of the buildings is the hospital? The school was adjacent to the military buildings and its dual use has yet to be eliminated.

Edited June 29Jun 29 by Patong2021

13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

No the US military did not "reveal" that the missile strike was executed using outdated data. Some people have made the claim. You are projecting your political bias.

There may very well have been inaccurate intelligence. errors happen in war. However, western military missile targeting relies on real time information. Because some person says that a google photo from 2013 was used, does not mean that the US military actually did that. The USA had active satellite intelligence and drone surveillance. It was real time. That's what 400+ intelligence capable satellites do. I am going to wait until the US military actually acknowledges the error.

If you read the news or look on u tube you will see the military acknowledges the error. its up to you !! what you believe

Internal investigations by U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) determined that the target coordinates for the U.S. Tomahawk cruise missile were generated using outdated data.

The investigation found, officials say, that targeting officials were using imagery that had not been updated in seven years. That imagery, they said, did not show a school next to the base.

But several years ago, one analyst noticed that the building appeared to be a school, three officials said.

That analyst informed one other person, the officials said. But the information did not make it to targeting officials, and intelligence and military officials continued to re-validate the site as a legitimate target for bombing.

if you can use google you can read the reports so far !! I very much dough you will get the official military report it will never see light of day as it will show the USA committed a war crime

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/03/12/iran-us-school-attack-findings-show-need-for-reform-accountability

https://reliefweb.int/report/iran-islamic-republic/iran-us-school-attack-findings-show-need-reform-accountability

Edited June 29Jun 29 by MikeandDow

5 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

If you read the news or look on u tube you will see the military acknowledges the error. its up to you !! what you believe

Internal investigations by U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) determined that the target coordinates for the U.S. Tomahawk cruise missile were generated using outdated data.

The investigation found, officials say, that targeting officials were using imagery that had not been updated in seven years. That imagery, they said, did not show a school next to the base.

But several years ago, one analyst noticed that the building appeared to be a school, three officials said.

That analyst informed one other person, the officials said. But the information did not make it to targeting officials, and intelligence and military officials continued to re-validate the site as a legitimate target for bombing.

if you can use google you can read the reports so far !!

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/03/12/iran-us-school-attack-findings-show-need-for-reform-accountability

https://reliefweb.int/report/iran-islamic-republic/iran-us-school-attack-findings-show-need-reform-accountability

Your two "sources" are one in the same and are not reliable. HRW offers its opinion. It has no standing and no access to the actual documents. Relief web has relied on the HRW opinion. (It states this in its Source disclosure).

You are claiming that there are investigations and reports that acknowledged an error. Considering the fact that these investigations have not been released, and reviewed, you have no basis with which to make your claim. All you are doing is regurgitating someone else's opinion. Provide the findings of the actual report where your claim is acknowledged.

14 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Your two "sources" are one in the same and are not reliable. HRW offers its opinion. It has no standing and no access to the actual documents. Relief web has relied on the HRW opinion. (It states this in its Source disclosure).

You are claiming that there are investigations and reports that acknowledged an error. Considering the fact that these investigations have not been released, and reviewed, you have no basis with which to make your claim. All you are doing is regurgitating someone else's opinion. Provide the findings of the actual report where your claim is acknowledged.

It is pointless discussing anything with you all you can say sources not reliable you can say that about anything !! there are experts from the US military who are experts in this all saying the same thing it was that the missile strike was executed using outdated data. there is a plethora of data on the internet all saying the US used using outdated data so if you want to bury your head in the sand i don't really care !!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVuXWcBEgJ-/?hl=en

9 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

It is pointless discussing anything with you all you can say sources not reliable you can say that about anything !! there are experts from the US military who are experts in this all saying the same thing it was that the missile strike was executed using outdated data. there is a plethora of data on the internet all saying the US used using outdated data so if you want to bury your head in the sand i don't really care !!

So wouldn't that make it a mistake from bad intel and not a war crime? Round and around with many others here and still the same responses. The US did not intentionally bomb the school. It was a mistake and girls paid for it, which is sad and I fully understand as I have 5 of my own.

If it was indeed intentional there would be hell to pay if I lost one of mine no matter who was responsible, but like an accident on a highway not involving drunk drivers but road conditions or bad lighting, it isn't murder or intentional if people die but a tragedy.

Could they all be avoided? Yes, with better roads, slower speeds, better lighting and drivers paying close attention, but this isn't a perfect world and no wars are near perfect but have collateral damage, and in this case, because Iran's military set up near a school and the intel on their military was off.

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

So wouldn't that make it a mistake from bad intel and not a war crime? Round and around with many others here and still the same responses. The US did not intentionally bomb the school. It was a mistake and girls paid for it, which is sad and I fully understand as I have 5 of my own.

If it was indeed intentional there would be hell to pay if I lost one of mine no matter who was responsible, but like an accident on a highway not involving drunk drivers but road conditions or bad lighting, it isn't murder or intentional if people die but a tragedy.

Could they all be avoided? Yes, with better roads, slower speeds, better lighting and drivers paying close attention, but this isn't a perfect world and no wars are near perfect but have collateral damage, and in this case, because Iran's military set up near a school and the intel on their military was off.

Nobody on this forum is saying it was intentional!, people/Governments are still held responsible for mistakes in this world!! Hegseth and his government should be held responsible and own up to it !! but it wont !! the deflection has already started with trump Trying to blame iran what a nutjob !! you yanks should be ashamed ! little kids you killed and you Yanks don't have the balls to stand up and admit it was a mistake !!

All i'd say is if your in a Coalition with the Yanks make sure your well away from an intended Missile strike from a few Tomahwks like 5 miles away so theres no chance of a friendly fire incident.

Does anyone else remember the glib responses the N***s said about Trump putting kids in cages during his first term?

"Well maybe their parents shouldn't have come here illegally"

They obviously haven't read their own Bible. God commanded not to kill kids for the sins of their parents. 😂

Ezekiel 18:20: The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child.

Edited June 29Jun 29 by SiSePuede419
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