Trump saying he doesn't think of the financial cost of the Iran war for the American public whilst Vance denies Trump said that.

On 5/9/2026 at 6:55 PM, JimGant said:

Wow, so far seven 'thumbs down.' I imagine mostly from Europeans, who are perfectly happy to have had 250k Yank dead in WWII, added to 110k Yank dead in WWI -- for wars my ancestors left the Old World to avoid. The majority isolationists really were correct.....

Japan was a different situation -- they attacked us, so of course we had to respond. But even here, if we weren't also involved in Europe, we could have committed all our resources to the Pacific, and thus have ended that war sooner -- probably without the Bomb.

Anyway, interesting to contemplate the European war without US involvement......

U.S. wealth depended upon Europe, its major export market. That is the real reason for the introduction of 'Marshall Aid' and the abandonment of the Morgenthau Plan for Germany: the U.S. needed to rebuild a Europe that had the means to purchase its products.

Roosevelt was sufficiently far-sighted to see that "Britain is our first line of defence." Not understood by most Americans.

The atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not needed to end the war with Japan. Following the U.S.S.R.'s lightning offensive in the East, the destruction of the Kwantung Army, and invasion of Sakhalin and Kuril Islands, Japan faced the alternative of Soviet or U.S. occupation. It chose the latter: 'unconditional surrender' - on condition the Emperor was not deposed (which was advisable anyway). Terms essentially agreed prior to the bombing.

Although it could not be publicly admitted, the obliteration of the two Japanese cities was a flexing of muscle intended to be seen by the Soviets. As was probably the case with the destruction of Dresden (despite a Russian request to cut its railway transportation facilities).

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

Trump saying he doesn't think of the financial cost of the Iran war for the American public whilst Vance denies Trump said that.

What do you expect !! this is how America is run now ! by bloody dimwits

52 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

IT was a massive turning point in World War II

Thank you.

4 minutes ago, ericbj said:

Thank you.

if you know what Inverted commas mean you should have known the meaning of my post !!

1 minute ago, MikeandDow said:

if you know what Inverted commas mean you should have known the meaning of my post !!

Double inverted commas delineate a quotation.

Resistance can be anything from weak to ferocious.

Obama on Iran "we pulled it off without firing a missile".

Trump just entered Uncle Remus-land and slapped a tar-baby. Best of luck getting out of that bind.