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Nearly Half of Americans Identify as Politically Independent

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8 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

But its not a 2-party "system". Two parties dominate who is in government, and the names of those parties change over the years. But every US election, there are always lots of candidates, from all walks of life. Bit no one votes for them. There was Ross Perot, but he never really had a chance. British politics are often described as "2 party politics", but again, there are lots of parties you can vote for.

Germany has baked in coalition politics, and mostly very stable governments, which have been middle of the ideological road to the point of dullness. Italy, famously, gained a reputation of unstable, shortlived government, due to coalition, essentially in a state of permanent paralysis. In Israel, what seems unusual, very small minority parties seem to have unusual influence on policy, when usually in coalitions, those minority partners find their influence is limited to less important areas.

The UK doesn't have much history of coalitions; and generally, people agree, they were needed for the particular circumstances at the time, but you wouldn't want to make a habit of it. The National Government stewarded the country through the Great Depression and WW2, and the Coalition of 2010, which I think was need to get the UK out of a pickle that was not really of its own making. And, I think there should have been a National government during Brexit, because Brexit was not a question that split on party lines. We had an ideological Brexit, rather than a pragmatic Brexit, resulting in a terrible deal.

Well i have a diffrent understanding

A political party is defined as ‘any group, no matter how loosely organised, seeking to elect governmental office-holders under a given label’

The UK is officially a multi-party system, though it has historically operated as a two-party system in practice due to its voting mechanics.

While multiple parties run and win seats, the Labour Party and the Conservative Party have monopolized power and alternated forming governments for over a century. However, the traditional two-party dynamic is experiencing unprecedented fragmentation.

The United States operates under a de-facto two-party system, dominated by the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. While smaller "third" parties exist (such as the Libertarian Party and the Green Party), the two major parties have won every presidential election since 1852 and hold almost all seats in Congress

The point i amtrying to get over is Limited Representation and is a very old system and to make matters worse the yanks throw in the Electoral college which Disenfranchises voters and can lead to Popular vote conflicts: which can lead to a president being elected who actually lost the national popular vote

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13 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Well i have a diffrent understanding

A political party is defined as ‘any group, no matter how loosely organised, seeking to elect governmental office-holders under a given label’

The UK is officially a multi-party system, though it has historically operated as a two-party system in practice due to its voting mechanics.

While multiple parties run and win seats, the Labour Party and the Conservative Party have monopolized power and alternated forming governments for over a century. However, the traditional two-party dynamic is experiencing unprecedented fragmentation.

The United States operates under a de-facto two-party system, dominated by the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. While smaller "third" parties exist (such as the Libertarian Party and the Green Party), the two major parties have won every presidential election since 1852 and hold almost all seats in Congress

The point i amtrying to get over is Limited Representation and is a very old system and to make matters worse the yanks throw in the Electoral college which Disenfranchises voters and can lead to Popular vote conflicts: which can lead to a president being elected who actually lost the national popular vote

So the UK never elects a government that fails to win the popular vote?🙄

Since 1924, only one UK government has won the majority of the popular vote, and it did it twice; the National government in 1931 and 1935.

In your post, you should not be using slang to identify particular nationalities. Since then, generally majority governments generally win 40-45% of the popular vote. Starmer secured 34%, indicating a majority that's a mile wide, but an inch deep. Boris got 44% in 2019 with the Red Wall. The Coalition government got 36%.

"Two-party system in practice" and "de-facto two-party system" literally means the same thing. "De Facto" means "in practice".

6 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

So the UK never elects a government that fails to win the popular vote?🙄

Since 1924, only one UK government has won the majority of the popular vote, and it did it twice; the National government in 1931 and 1935.

In your post, you should not be using slang to identify particular nationalities. Since then, generally majority governments generally win 40-45% of the popular vote. Starmer secured 34%, indicating a majority that's a mile wide, but an inch deep. Boris got 44% in 2019 with the Red Wall. The Coalition government got 36%.

"Two-party system in practice" and "de-facto two-party system" literally means the same thing. "De Facto" means "in practice".

6 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

So the UK never elects a government that fails to win the popular vote

does my post state that !!!

And why should you not use slang to identify particular nationalities it is the same as yanks calling you limey !! You should get thicker skin if it hurts your feeling !!

Two-party system in practice" and "de-facto two-party system as you Captain Obvious". points out is the same thing

54 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

The point i amtrying to get over is Limited Representation and is a very old system and to make matters worse the yanks throw in the Electoral college which Disenfranchises voters and can lead to Popular vote conflicts: which can lead to a president being elected who actually lost the national popular vote

The UK’s Parliamentary system is older than the US system.

2 minutes ago, temuFarang said:

The UK’s Parliamentary system is older than the US system.

Oh wow !!! who cares since i was talking about the American system ! and the UK system are diffrent The US is a presidential system while the UK is parliamentary

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Oh wow !!! who cares since i was talking about the American system ! and the UK system are diffrent The US is a presidential system while the UK is parliamentary

You mentioned it's old. However, the UK system is older, and another poster pointed out the lack of a majority in the UK government. It seems the parliamentary system leaves more people disenfranchised.

2 minutes ago, temuFarang said:

You mentioned it's old. However, the UK system is older, and another poster pointed out the lack of a majority in the UK government. It seems the parliamentary system leaves more people disenfranchised.

Who cares about the UK system i was not talking about the UK, and blow me down i would not have guessed the uk system was older !

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

Who cares about the UK system i was not talking about the UK, and blow me down i would not have guessed the uk system was older !

If you truly have no interest in the UK system, what motivated you to take the time to compare the two systems?

3 minutes ago, temuFarang said:

If you truly have no interest in the UK system, what motivated you to take the time to compare the two systems?

I was replying to a poster that is what you do in a forum !

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

I was replying to a poster that is what you do in a forum !

I responded to your message. Goodbye.

14 hours ago, TedG said:

Can you please cite an example of which polices led to this?

With sincere apology, Ted, I am dealing with other things currently. Do keep in mind my background in considering my responses. Currently trying to keep up currently while reading "an American History of Cuba" by Ferrer.

14 hours ago, TedG said:

Can you please cite an example of which polices led to this?

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