10 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

How many volts and what's the chemistry? Lifepo4 doesn't seem to have the same problems other lithium batteries have. I'm sitting atop 480ah/12v right now and haven't had a problem (touch wood) and my electrical skills make Somchai look like a master electrician.

EVs make perfect sense in Thailand, especially when combined with a large solar array and a battery bank for the house.

48V LiFePO₄ – yes, I’m aware that this type is less hazardous, but you can’t be too careful; the two sets are housed in a box with fans on both sides (intake and exhaust).

17 hours ago, rocketboy2 said:

My money is on Somchai's, DIY wiring skills.

Probably using a charger that plugs into 16A (maybe 2x 16A) sockets, which may have overloaded improperly fused wiring, caused the cables to heat up, melt insulation, and short circuit resulting from that would do the rest. For most things Thais (used to use) the existing wiring in older houses was "ok" but whenever adding something power hungry like airconditioners or water heaters, you'd always see technicians install their own fuses and cabling to the fuse box, not trusting existing wires. With EV cars, the included charger looks too convenient - it just plugs into existing sockets. But, if those sockets are connected to substandard wiring... well, then this happens.

On 6/17/2026 at 8:32 AM, JBChiangRai said:

Your ICE car is a dozen times more likely to catch fire and over a hundred times more likely if it’s one of those hybrids.

Not sure what medication you are on but I suggest you stop taking it.

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31 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

On 6/17/2026 at 8:32 AM, JBChiangRai said:

Your ICE car is a dozen times more likely to catch fire and over a hundred times more likely if it’s one of those hybrids.

30 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Not sure what medication you are on but I suggest you stop taking it.

it doesn't surprise me that some ev critics still don't know that ICE vehicles experience far more fires than BEV there are numerous statistics and studies from different countries showing the same trend. and no, you don't need to be on any medication to read and understand them. 😉

https://insideevs.com/news/561549/study-evs-smallest-fire-risk/

1 hour ago, motdaeng said:

it doesn't surprise me that some ev critics still don't know that ICE vehicles experience far more fires than BEV there are numerous statistics and studies from different countries showing the same trend. and no, you don't need to be on any medication to read and understand them. 😉

https://insideevs.com/news/561549/study-evs-smallest-fire-risk/

LPG cars are a real hazard. No one I know who like myself work in the O&G industry would ever consider buying an LPG vehicle.

15 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

We’re coming to the end of a 4,000km road trip in Thailand. Almost every PTT station has a few chargers, no need to plan your charging at all.

The infrastructure for EVs in Thailand is amazing, as it is for driving in general. The PTT/7-11/Amazon Coffee stations are like an oasis when I road trip on my scooter. The bathrooms are immaculate and I've never seen junkies hanging about like they do just about everywhere in Canada.

OK, back to the original subject. People who live in row houses could end up killing their neighbours as well as themselves with shoddy wiring on an EV charger.

On 6/18/2026 at 11:17 AM, Photoguy21 said:

LPG cars are a real hazard. No one I know who like myself work in the O&G industry would ever consider buying an LPG vehicle.

i think you completely misunderstood the graphic "car fires by vehicle type"...

when americans say "gas car", they mean a gasoline (petrol) car, not an LPG vehicle... 555

On 6/19/2026 at 3:24 PM, motdaeng said:

i think you completely misunderstood the graphic "car fires by vehicle type"...

when americans say "gas car", they mean a gasoline (petrol) car, not an LPG vehicle... 555

And these figures are out of a total of what? Does this also include vehicles deliberately set on fire? A number means very little unless the basis of the number is clearly defined.

51 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

And these figures are out of a total of what? Does this also include vehicles deliberately set on fire? A number means very little unless the basis of the number is clearly defined.

The same methodology of data collection is applied to each category.

It’s also backed up by similar statistics from other countries.

Facts are facts.

On 6/21/2026 at 2:48 PM, JBChiangRai said:

The same methodology of data collection is applied to each category.

It’s also backed up by similar statistics from other countries.

Facts are facts.

Collecting numbers is fine but do the numbers also give the reason why they went on fire?

12 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Collecting numbers is fine but do the numbers also give the reason why they went on fire?

You might be able to search that, in general I suspect they don’t.

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

You might be able to search that, in general I suspect they don’t.

It would be typical of the reports. Big headlines but no details.

On 6/21/2026 at 2:48 PM, JBChiangRai said:

The same methodology of data collection is applied to each category.

It’s also backed up by similar statistics from other countries.

Facts are facts.

But I'm guessing nearly all of those ICE fires occurred while the engine was running.

The chance of an ICE car spontaneously catching fire overnight must be close to zero.

The chance of an EV catching fire overnight while charging is fairly low but it's not zero.

6 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

It would be typical of the reports. Big headlines but no details.

It appears that you still believe EV are more prone to fires than ICE vehicles? This despite a couple of posts that clearly state what the numbers are based on, with links to the source.

Why does the cause of the fire sway your impaired judgement? A fire is a fire.

A fairly recent fire on a car carrier was quickly blamed on the EV's that were part of the cargo, whereas the reality was the fire started in some old, used, second-hand, pre-owned ICE vehicles that were also on the manifest. They hadn't been drained of hydrocarbon-based combustibles and tanks and engines properly vented per the regulations for shipping used "conventional" vehicles. Spark...boom!

3 hours ago, matchar said:

But I'm guessing nearly all of those ICE fires occurred while the engine was running.

The chance of an ICE car spontaneously catching fire overnight must be close to zero.

The chance of an EV catching fire overnight while charging is fairly low but it's not zero.

Over here in Malaysia, we have many incidences of parked ICE spontaneously catching fire. A week ago, 3 ICEs (a Toyota, a BMW and a Honda) caught fire at a Lotus supermarket in KL. Fire was believed to have started from the Toyota Velfire.

This proves EV's are unsafe.

6 hours ago, Furioso said:

This proves EV's are unsafe.

You’re in the wrong side of history and look like a Richard

9 hours ago, Selatan said:

Over here in Malaysia, we have many incidences of parked ICE spontaneously catching fire. A week ago, 3 ICEs (a Toyota, a BMW and a Honda) caught fire at a Lotus supermarket in KL. Fire was believed to have started from the Toyota Velfire.

The Vellfire is a hybrid is it not? Perhaps the hybrid battery caught fire...

51 minutes ago, matchar said:

The Vellfire is a hybrid is it not? Perhaps the hybrid battery caught fire...

Hybrids are 130 times more likely to catch fire than EV’s.

7 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Hybrids are 130 times more likely to catch fire than EV’s.

Those figures probably aren't very reliable since I doubt they take into account various factors like vehicle age, modifications and maintenance. Correlation does not mean causation after all.

It sounds like the Vellfire Malaysia fire was probably unrelated to the fuel system anyway but due to electrical modifications:

"Aftermarket Accessories & Wiring Defects: The Vellfire is a highly customized vehicle in Malaysia. Independent discussions regarding local car park fires indicate that faulty or overloaded sound systems, non-standard ambient lighting, and electronic modifications bypass factory fuses and frequently trigger engine bay short circuits."