Who Is Not Waiting For: Vista Sp1?!

[Guest Reimar]

32-bit Vista SP1 = 1GB – 64-bit Vista SP1 = 1.5GB

If you think that Windows Vista was a fast operating system, then just wait for the first service pack. According to data released by Microsoft, Vista SP1 with weigh in at a maximum of 1.5 GB.

As Windows Vista comes on both 32-bit and 64-bit flavors, the first service pack for the operating system will inherently follow the same pattern. In this context, the 64-bit version of Vista SP1 will be the heavyweight of the refresh with no less than 1.5 GB. However, the 32-bit variant of the service pack for Vista is not far behind with no less than 1 GB. These figures however are associated with the standalone installers for Vista SP1. The version of Vista Service Pack 1 that will be delivered for download through Windows Update and Windows Software Update Services (WSUS) will be approximately 50 MB.

"It’s true that at first glance it will look like a lot is changing, and it’s true that there are thousands of files being changed to varying degrees in Windows Vista SP1. However, the first measure of "size" most people will encounter will likely be the download of Windows Vista SP1 through Windows Update or Windows Server Update Services (WSUS), which we predict will be about 50 MB. The second measure of size will be the free disk space requirement for installing Windows Vista SP1, which is currently around 7 GB for the beta, although we will be working to bring this down for the final version as we optimize the servicing algorithms used," revealed Jon DeVaan, Senior Vice President of the Windows Core Operating System division at Microsoft.

Yes, that's right. The standalone installer for 32-bit Vista SP1 will require no less than 7 GB of free hard disk space. And of course that with the 64-bit version the requirements nearly double with no less than 12 GB of free space. Microsoft currently plans no less than three deployment scenarios for Vista SP1. Express, Standalone, and Slipstream. The Express version will be the 50 MB download delivered over Windows Update and WSUS for a specific machine. The Standalone package is designed to be implemented on computers with limited Internet connectivity.

"The download size is larger than the express package, but customers can apply a single package to any Windows Vista version and language combination (within a platform). Distribution tools like System Center Configuration Manager 2007 use stand-alone packages to deploy Windows Vista SP1," explained Microsoft's Brandon LeBlanc.

And of course, the Slipstream Vista SP1 delivery model is essentially a media with the refresh addressed at corporate environments. Via the Slipstream version, users will be able either to upgrade the existing Vista operating systems or deploy the service pack on top of existing installations. "Availability will be limited. Microsoft will update Windows Vista retail media with Windows Vista SP1 slipstream media in the future. Slipstream media will also be available to Volume Licensing customers," LeBlanc added.

Windows Vista SP1 is currently planned for general availability in the first quarter of 2008, most probably following the late February launch of Windows Server 2008, formerly codenamed Longhorn.

Source: news.softpedia.com

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Microsoft Preps Windows Vista SP 1 For Early 2008

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Microsoft said it will release also the third service pack for Windows XP in the next few weeks, but the company said it should not significantly change the XP user experience. The final version of Windows XP SP 3 will be released to PC makers in the first half of 2008.

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[RKASA]

If I ever do go to vista it would have to be with a new PC that can make the most of it, and then would wait till this time next year. Let the dust settle.

[cdnvic]

So far there's been little or no dust from Vista, much to the chagrin of the MS detractors.

My XP installations feel ancient in comparison.

[H2oDunc]

Got to agree with above. Had Vista now for over 8 months and had not a single freeze, hic up or anything. Well happy with the photo tools and desktop add ons. Appears to be quicker than Xp and the find function is great. Some people will never be happy with Windows no matter what. Same as with UBC, either you like it or you dont. For me try it and see, you may be suprised

[RKASA]

I have old boxes and don't think upgarding to vista would be so good. It would have to be with a new PC and the SP1 at lest. I am starting to like my XP more, back in April I removed Norton AV after problems with renewing, and seems my XP woes were almost all Norton caused. I had crashs like clock work. I have not had one after removing Norton AV.

[siamshot]

Oh, how DO I love my Ubuntu...

[CosmicSurfer]

I, for one, won't be Doing VISTA SP1.. I''l hold out on XP-Pro Until Vista SP2.

What I've read is that SP1, is basically lots of Patches and non-user type stuff.

I'm not against VISTA, I'm looking forward to it.. But simplicity, intuativness and useability are very high on my list of criteria... High frustration levels from repeated security warning, incompatability with Older software and Hardware.. lack of VISTA and 64 bt compatible products leaves me feeling that waiting for SP2 is when MS will listen to the User complaints about these problems, and start to address them... same as SP2 was a better upgrade than SP1 was for the XP O/S.

[cdnvic]

Turning off the security warnings is easy, and as for compatibility problems, so far only older games.

[voodoo]

ya gotta be kiddin'.

"Updates" are not actually updates. It is simply corrections.

updates mostly fix internal codes errors that let the flies in even

with the screen supposedly close. These flies swatter and bring their

own flies.

[RKASA]

I ran the vista upgrade advisor and it said that I am OK for basic. with 1.4Ghz and 512 RAM, but if I want to get the most out of an upgrade should I not have 3G ram and more speed and go with prem. package. Other wise why bother with it, I think basic won't really do anything I don't already have ??

[nikster]

I really don't mind XP - works well enough. But Vista really is a great big dud if there ever was one.

I'll try it again come SP2, I swear. Until then, don't waste my time & thanks but no thanks. I was expecting improvements over XP and got none. I was expecting the most glaring architectural problems of XP addressed, that wasn't the case. Better user experience? Fuhgeddaboudit. Philosophy seems to be - bigger dialogs and more explanatory text are the solution for all user interface problems. I really couldn't believe it when I got a dialog box that nearly filled my 1680x1050 screen. <deleted>?? Made me truly appreciate the 'cancel' / ESC option on dialogs in Windows XP.

[voodoo]

Windows vista is designed to restrict and control how you use your computer. It makes your computer less stable and run slower. They decide which programs you can and cant use on your computer. If you buy Vista in a retail store and install it on the machine you already owned, you have to completely delete it on that machine before you can install it on another machine. Microsoft has full right thru the program such as Windows Defender to delete programs from your computer that it considers as spyware.

go to www.microsoft.com/about/legal/useterms/default.aspx and enjoy reading a license nightmare.

Edited September 1, 2007 by voodoo

[cdnvic]

If you bought XP, 2000, or any other OS you'd have to do the same thing. You are purchasing a license for a single installation, the only thing that's changed in Vista is that it's enforced slightly better.

[voodoo]

If you bought XP, 2000, or any other OS you'd have to do the same thing. You are purchasing a license for a single installation, the only thing that's changed in Vista is that it's enforced slightly better.

well... i think otherwise in some points

read this.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...p;#entry1563398