Everyone should know that on July 8th, Trump was informed of a plot to take Air Force 1 out with a missile in Ankara, Turkey. Trump boarded AF1 and then snuck out of the back of the plane in a catering cart essentially leaving most of his staff, including Karoline Leavitt, and members of the civilian press onboard in what would become a "Decoy Plane" in order that he could slip away to the safety in an older presidential jet.

Personally I believe that should make his staff ponder about the meaning of "Loyalty" which to Trump, seems to only be a one-way street.

What about you? Do you think the Trump Plane Switcharoo in Ankara causes Leavitt to hand in her resignation?

Would you sacrifice your life for "The Catering-Cart Don?"

Lame.

It’s not up to the president whether or not to change plans or planes, in fact the president has no say in the matter when it comes to security. It’s the secret service and the military intelligence officials that made the call here as they do with all other security matters.

Now what you folks should be really concerned about is the clinical mindset vortex that has swamped you in.

15 minutes ago, novacova said:

Lame.

It’s not up to the president whether or not to change plans or planes, in fact the president has no say in the matter when it comes to security. It’s the secret service and the military intelligence officials that made the call here as they do with all other security matters.

Now what you folks should be really concerned about is the clinical mindset vortex that has swamped you in.

But but but - I thought the President was also the Commander in Chief?

1 hour ago, connda said:

leaving most of his staff, including Karoline Leavitt, and members of the civilian press onboard

Leavitt was not in Turkey, much less on that plane

20 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Leavitt was not in Turkey, much less on that plane

Well color me wrong. Ok - her replacement, Steven Cheung, was left on the decoy plane. View it from the perspective.

8 hours ago, connda said:

Well color me wrong. Ok - her replacement, Steven Cheung, was left on the decoy plane. View it from the perspective.

Steven Cheung was actually Ms. Leavitt's boss in the communication dept. hierarchy. But some reported seeing a blond with President Trump in Ankara and it's sometimes hard to tell one blond from another.

9 hours ago, connda said:

Well color me wrong. Ok - her replacement, Steven Cheung, was left on the decoy plane. View it from the perspective.

She hasn't been replaced yet. Indeed the front runner now seems to be Scott Jennings. As mentioned above the POTUS follows the directions of the Secret Service. This is yet another of your ridiculous "I hate orange man" threads/posts.

I hope it will be Scott Jennings. He will eviscerate the leftist MSM.

Edited August 20Aug 20 by dinsdale

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

I hope it will be Scott Jennings. He will eviscerate the leftist MSM.

I was hoping he'd get to keep irritating the lefties at CNN and it would be Alina Habba. Basically, Jennings is already performing a valuable service and his absence would leave a void. Besides, she's easier to look at.

12 hours ago, Lacessit said:

But but but - I thought the President was also the Commander in Chief?

On this matter you thought wrong. Simple mistake you made.

Maybe she lied so much ,that she just cannot lie anymore ,must be very stressful

to be putting out stories that don't add up to reality, anyway she has a rich husband

to look after her ,

regards worgeordie

13 hours ago, Lacessit said:

But but but - I thought the President was also the Commander in Chief?

You are definitely confused and uneducated about how the presidential security apparatus operates in the United States.

Edited August 21Aug 21 by ArchieBunker

13 hours ago, novacova said:

Lame.

It’s not up to the president whether or not to change plans or planes, in fact the president has no say in the matter when it comes to security. It’s the secret service and the military intelligence officials that made the call here as they do with all other security matters.

Now what you folks should be really concerned about is the clinical mindset vortex that has swamped you in.

A decent President would have let the SS get him out while holding AF1 on the ground, perhaps claiming an "extra meeting before departure". Once POTUS was safely out of Turkish airspace---even if the "threat" was bogus, unknown to the US intel community, but provided by a false Israeli "tip"---someone would then inform the passengers on the supposedly targeted AF1, giving them the opportunity to make other arrangements on commercial aircraft.

Reagan would have done things that way. So would Bush I and II. So would Obama and Biden, probably even Bill Clinton.

Only Trump would be so self-centered and not give a thought to his staff or the press.

13 hours ago, Lacessit said:

But but but - I thought the President was also the Commander in Chief?

But But, you obviously don't get it?

Trump, as President, is the Commander in Chief of the U.S. military.

However, when there is a direct personal threat to him, the U.S. Secret Service takes operational control of his immediate protection. In those moments they can override normal plans, evacuate him, restrict access, or give orders to people around him in order to keep him safe.

That is standard procedure for any U.S. president. The military chain of command stays under the President, but his personal bodyguard detail (Secret Service) runs the protective response on the ground.

It is established by law.Under 18 U.S.C. § 3056, the United States Secret Service is specifically authorized to protect the President. This statute gives Secret Service agents the legal authority to take the actions necessary for that protection, including controlling the immediate security environment, restricting access, evacuating the President, and issuing orders in real time when a threat exists.

I thought everyone knew this?? Apparently not!

But Natalie was saved!

Makes you wonder why.

4 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

But But, you obviously don't get it?

Trump, as President, is the Commander in Chief of the U.S. military.

However, when there is a direct personal threat to him, the U.S. Secret Service takes operational control of his immediate protection. In those moments they can override normal plans, evacuate him, restrict access, or give orders to people around him in order to keep him safe.

That is standard procedure for any U.S. president. The military chain of command stays under the President, but his personal bodyguard detail (Secret Service) runs the protective response on the ground.

It is established by law.Under 18 U.S.C. § 3056, the United States Secret Service is specifically authorized to protect the President. This statute gives Secret Service agents the legal authority to take the actions necessary for that protection, including controlling the immediate security environment, restricting access, evacuating the President, and issuing orders in real time when a threat exists.

I thought everyone knew this?? Apparently not!

Nope not buying it your guy should have made arrangements to be sure the others would be safe that’s the part you and your ilk are overlooking.Its just another example of what trump the person is…..it’s not pretty.

16 minutes ago, Wingate said:

A decent President would have let the SS get him out while holding AF1 on the ground, perhaps claiming an "extra meeting before departure". Once POTUS was safely out of Turkish airspace---even if the "threat" was bogus, unknown to the US intel community, but provided by a false Israeli "tip"---someone would then inform the passengers on the supposedly targeted AF1, giving them the opportunity to make other arrangements on commercial aircraft.

Reagan would have done things that way. So would Bush I and II. So would Obama and Biden, probably even Bill Clinton.

Only Trump would be so self-centered and not give a thought to his staff or the press.

You are still talking total garbage.

The Secret Service is an agency within the Department of Homeland Security, which is part of the executive branch.

When it comes to the actual protective work (especially during an active threat), the agents have statutory authority and professional autonomy to make real-time security decisions.

The President cannot simply override those protective protocols on a whim.

It's not difficult to understand!

1 minute ago, jvs said:

But Natalie was saved!

Makes you wonder why.

Well guess he’s growing fond of his wet nurse and constant feeder of soothing News,afterall we know how he handles bad news or disagreements being the delicate snow flake that he is.

20 minutes ago, Wingate said:

A decent President would have let the SS get him out while holding AF1 on the ground, perhaps claiming an "extra meeting before departure". Once POTUS was safely out of Turkish airspace---even if the "threat" was bogus, unknown to the US intel community, but provided by a false Israeli "tip"---someone would then inform the passengers on the supposedly targeted AF1, giving them the opportunity to make other arrangements on commercial aircraft.

Reagan would have done things that way. So would Bush I and II. So would Obama and Biden, probably even Bill Clinton.

Only Trump would be so self-centered and not give a thought to his staff or the press.

Utterly lame and convoluted mess of a statement. As you are well unaware of that it’s the security detail that has the final say and coordination of how the security is handled, the president cannot override their decision.

The deliberate ignorance here is remarkably astounding.

13 hours ago, connda said:

Well color me wrong. Ok - her replacement, Steven Cheung, was left on the decoy plane. View it from the perspective.

Has Steven Cheung quit then? Maybe he's the one at home on maternity leave?

As for the "other blonde" seen in Ankara,

7 minutes ago, jvs said:

But Natalie was saved!

Makes you wonder why.

Any evidence?

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

5 minutes ago, Tug said:

Nope not buying it your guy should have made arrangements to be sure the others would be safe that’s the part you and your ilk are overlooking.Its just another example of what trump the person is…..it’s not pretty.

You’re seriously arguing that the guy being protected should have personally micromanaged the security arrangements for everyone else around him? That’s like blaming the passenger for the pilot’s flight plan.

The Secret Service — not Trump — designs, controls, and executes the protective detail.

That’s their entire job, backed by federal law and decades of specialized training.

Then leaping from that to “this shows what Trump the person is” is a predetermined narrative looking for evidence.

If the security team drops the ball, the failure belongs to the security team.

Pinning it on the target’s character is the kind of logic that only works if you’ve already decided the conclusion.

The fact that you're 'not buying it' is totally irrelevant, when you look at the facts!

41 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

You are still talking total garbage.

The Secret Service is an agency within the Department of Homeland Security, which is part of the executive branch.

Give it up. You'll get just muddier and they keep enjoying it.

That's what happens when you rassle with pigs. And lefties.

She doen't want to get toast by voicing Trump's BS for the midterms, in particular if he tries to rig the election! 😀

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Has Steven Cheung quit then? Maybe he's the one at home on maternity leave?

As for the "other blonde" seen in Ankara,

Any evidence?

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Has Steven Cheung quit then? Maybe he's the one at home on maternity leave?

As for the "other blonde" seen in Ankara,

Any evidence?

Any evidence of what?

4 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

You are still talking total garbage.

The Secret Service is an agency within the Department of Homeland Security, which is part of the executive branch.

When it comes to the actual protective work (especially during an active threat), the agents have statutory authority and professional autonomy to make real-time security decisions.

The President cannot simply override those protective protocols on a whim.

It's not difficult to understand!

It's difficult for me to understand why Trump would not insist on his entourage being protected from the threat, by dispersing them to alternative forms of transport, such as commercial aircraft. As it was, they were sitting ducks if the threat materialized.

To me, that's an abandonment of leadership responsibility. Perhaps Leavitt saw it the way I do.

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

As for the "other blonde" seen in Ankara,

Any evidence?

As Natalie wrote: with All My Heart

51 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's difficult for me to understand why Trump would not insist on his entourage being protected from the threat, by dispersing them to alternative forms of transport, such as commercial aircraft.

Yes, it’s quite obvious that you’re having trouble understanding that it’s not the presidents call on how to conduct security matters. Besides, you have absolutely no clue as to what or what was not insisted on by Trump which would have made no difference on the decisions made by the ss, all you folks ever go on is complete asinine silly assumption based nonsense.

Edited August 21Aug 21 by novacova

4 hours ago, jvs said:

Any evidence of what?

That Natalie was saved.

10 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

That Natalie was saved.

As President Donald Trump secretly left an Air Force One jet on a catering truck last month in response to a potential Iranian assassination threat in Turkey, he was accompanied by some of his most loyal and longest-serving aides but no Cabinet officials.

Other passengers on the truck included Dan Scavino, the White House deputy chief of staff; Natalie Harp, the president’s executive assistant;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/08/12/close-trump-aides-no-cabinet-officials-made-secret-catering-truck-move/

Edited August 21Aug 21 by JerryM

1 minute ago, JerryM said:

As President Donald Trump secretly left an Air Force One jet on a catering truck last month in response to a potential Iranian assassination threat in Turkey, he was accompanied by some of his most loyal and longest-serving aides but no Cabinet officials.

Other passengers on the truck included Dan Scavino, the White House deputy chief of staff; Natalie Harp, the president’s executive assistant;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/08/12/close-trump-aides-no-cabinet-officials-made-secret-catering-truck-move/

Smart move Donald. Only his most loyal and longest-serving aides, eh? He knows his Cabinet are as honest and trustworthy as Brutus was to Caesar, or Judas was to Christ.

2 hours ago, novacova said:

Yes, it’s quite obvious that you’re having trouble understanding that it’s not the presidents call on how to conduct security matters. Besides, you have absolutely no clue as to what or what was not insisted on by Trump which would have made no difference on the decisions made by the ss, all you folks ever go on is complete asinine silly assumption based nonsense.

Since nobody in his own camp knows what's going to come out of Trump's mouth next, your comment about "complete asinine silly assumption based nonsense" sounds like a common affliction.