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90-day notification refused

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I’ve been living here for nearly 30 years and I’ve never experienced anything like this before.

Now been living with my Thai girlfriend in our own home in Phetchaburi province for over 15 years

I have held a retirement extension for more than 20 years and, until three years ago, I always made use of the 800K scheme.

Due to personal circumstances, I stopped using this scheme three years ago and started using an agent.

This agent is staying in Bangkok, so he uses IO in that area, or in a neighbouring province, as a result, my retirement extension was also granted there.

For convenience’s sake, I’m using the internet for the 90-day notification, but I do have to submit the initial notification to the IO in my province.

I wasn’t aware of that at first, and when I first went to my local IO office, I was sent away – I had to prove my home address again using the T.M. 30 form, so I went to collect the ‘tambien baan’ and a copy of my girlfriend’s identity card, and that was accepted.

A year later, yesterday, things turned out differently; this time I was sent back again – the owner of the property had to be there in person, so off I went again, this time with my girlfriend.

But the official on duty clearly couldn’t be bothered to issue me with a 90-day extension, The retirement extension wasn’t issued at his office, so why should he have to include that 90-day reference? I was told to go to the IO, where the retirement stamp had been issued.

When I pointed out that I would still have to report to the provincial office where I live, he confirmed this, but he wanted the agents telephone number so that he could speak to him – though, of course, I didn’t have that to hand; I did, however, have countless copies of everything – you never know what they’ll come up with next.

He handed over the documents and my passport, and I was free to go; my girlfriend couldn’t accept it and carried on arguing with him for another ten minutes, but he stood his ground and even threatened to revoke my extension of stay – she even recorded it on her phone.

Yes, I know, this country is riddled with corruption, but I haven’t done anything wrong; he even admitted to using a agent but refuses to help me any further.

This is for your edification and entertainment; make the most of it.

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7 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:

I’ve been living here for nearly 30 years and I’ve never experienced anything like this before.

Seems to me you don't understand what TM30 and TM47 is for.

Also seems you are using an agent and extension stamps are not issue in the province you live.

In that situation many have the agent do the 90 reports.

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your mistake was thinking that using an agent <- (who got you an under the table, back door, yearly extension at a province you don't live in, from an immigration office you never went to) would be okay for you to just show up and file a 90 day report at the office that serves the area where you actually live

Not that many immigration offices will let you file 90 day reports on agent gotten out of province stamps, even if you filed a new TM30 once you got the year extension inked in

You would have been far better off (seeing as you're already on the "I use an agent" bandwagon) to just have the agent file 90 day reports for you for the year, using what ever b/s address they used in the province they got the extension from ..

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31 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Seems to me you don't understand what TM30 and TM47 is for.

Also seems you are using an agent and extension stamps are not issue in the province you live.

In that situation many have the agent do the 90 reports.

Perhaps I’ve misunderstood you; as far as I understand, a TM30 form is used to provide proof of my address, and a TM47 form is used to submit a 90-day notification.

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24 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:

a TM30 form is used to provide proof of my address, and a TM47 form is used to submit a 90-day notification.

TM30 is also used for change of address.

Some agents use immigratiin office in another province to where you live.

While it may be possible to do a TM30 after obtaining the agent extension to the address where you actually live and hence be able to do your own 90 reports for your "real address" that is not a given.

This is pointed out clearly in post by Tod above.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Seems to me you don't understand what TM30 and TM47 is for.

Also seems you are using an agent and extension stamps are not issue in the province you live.

In that situation many have the agent do the 90 reports.

I think using the same agent for 90 days is a given. Once you are on the hook?

@Peterphuket Now you may been pegged as missing your 90 day report so you will be liable for 2000 Baht fine.

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52 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

I think using the same agent for 90 days is a given. Once you are on the hook?

@Peterphuket Now you may been pegged as missing your 90 day report so you will be liable for 2000 Baht fine.

No, the same agent is now handling the 90-day notification; that costs 500 THB each time, so it’s actually the same price as the fine – they now have to do it four times for me.

After arriving 14 years ago with a non-O I used an agent in Bangkok to get my first marriage extension. I was fully compliant with everything but unsure how the process worked so did it as a hand holding excersise. Extension issued in Bangkok but living in Ratchaburi. The agent got me to draw a map of where I lived, bank letters etc.. Two months later I went to my local immigration office to get a COR for a driving licence. First words she said to me was "did you use an agent for the extension?". She wasn't angry about it or anything but informed me that they had no record of me on their system as living in Ratchaburi so would need paperwork for change of address and a TM30. What I didn't realise was that the agent had registered me at a fake address in Bangkok without telling me. I thought he was registering me at my address as he asked for a map of it.

6 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

What I didn't realise was that the agent had registered me at a fake address in Bangkok without telling me.

And you didn't realize that in advance..

Stamps are issued in province of listed address.

Obviously your imm office would not have any record of you.

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

And you didn't realize that in advance..

Stamps are issued in province of listed address.

Obviously your imm office would not have any record of you.

As I said. It was my first extension and I had no idea how the process worked. The agent asked me to draw a map for my house in Ratchaburi then used a fake address without telling me. If only we could all be as wise as you.

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