Hi guys need some guidance from members in similar situation.

Background: Thai partner (not married) and 2 children. Non O family annual extensions for a number of years. Next extension to be applied for 12th October.

My partner has a few issues going on but has informed me that she wants to go and work abroad.

She has left the family home in Udon but is visiting weekends to see the kids...all very friendly.

She has said that she won't go abroad until my visa extension application is completed .

So questions are:

Scenario 1

I do my extension application on October12th as usual (a month before extension expires and extension stamped in my passport 11th December) using the blue house book and it all goes smoothly. Immigration have not done any house visits for a few years.

In the event that they did do a house visit after the application but before the extension is stamped in my passport in December and they find out she is not living at the family home, what might be the consequences. Could they stop my extension?

Scenario 2

She leaves the country before my visa application.

I have a yellow book for the family home with a land lease and superficies and court documents showing my son is mine.

Can I apply for a Non O family on the basis that my partner has absconded but I still live at the family home and take care of the children?

Further question:

Am I better applying (and can I apply) for the non O family on my own. That would negate the issue of doing the extension with my partner (ex partner) and an immigration house visit takes place before my stamp is put in the passport.

Thanks in advance

@Liquorice may have some input on your situation.

BTW: are you 50+

Yes. I realise that I could apply for a Non O retirement extension but cash is an issue....

Understand the money issue.

Some would suggest an agent for retirement extension however your in Udon. Not abundant supply of agents.

Since the kids live with you and you have proof of parenthood then should be able to have extension based on parent of Thai dependants.

Have you chatted with immigration?

It appears you've been applying for extensions based on dependent of Thai children.

Your application therefore has nothing to do with your unmarried partner.
I know of at least 3 foreigners raising their Thai offspring's alone where the ex wife or partner has absconded without issues.

Providing you have copies of the Blue House book for the residence in which the children should be registered and their ID cards, it shouldn't be a problem. Your obviously legalised as the Father and therefore have parental control.
The requirement is that the children live with you and you have parental control, not whether the ex wife/partner is also living with you.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Liquorice

Just now, gavlar said:

46 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

@Liquorice may have some input on your situation.

46 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

@Liquorice may have some input on your situation.

25 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Understand the money issue.

Some would suggest an agent for retirement extension however your in Udon. Not abundant supply of agents.

Since the kids live with you and you have proof of parenthood then should be able to have extension based on parent of Thai dependants.

Have you chatted with immigration?

Not gone to Immigration yet, I wanted to see if this was a potential legal pathway with immigration to do it by myself.

If it is as you suggeste, then given my ex usually brings a friend of hers as the witness I'll need to sort this out with possibly bringing my solicitor.

I'm wary of immigration trying to force me to use an agent to move to retirement and all that entails!

Would much rather do it properly as "family dependent" if possible.

Don't really want to do it with her as a shortcut to walk into an immigration issue if they do a home visit.

If anyone has done it on that basis I would appreciate their experience and who they brought as a witness.

1 minute ago, Liquorice said:

It appears you've been applying for extensions based on dependent of Thai children.

Your application therefore has nothing to do with your unmarried partner.
I know of at least 3 foreigners raising their Thai offspring's alone where the ex wife or partner has absconded without issues.

Providing you have copies of the Blue House book for the residence in which the children should be registered and their ID cards, it shouldn't be a problem.
Your obviously legalised as the Father and therefore have parental control.

Yes I usually do it on my son from the blue book registration. Immigration have never seen my yellow book.

3 minutes ago, gavlar said:

Yes I usually do it on my son from the blue book registration. Immigration have never seen my yellow book.

Their are plenty of foreigners raising their Thai children where the ex (either married or not) have flown the nest that don't have an issue applying based on being the Father of the child(ren).
You have proof of relationship to the child, finances, copies of the Tabien Baan and their Thai ID card, there is no reason Immigration should give you a problem.

3 hours ago, gavlar said:

Can I apply for a Non O family on the basis that my partner has absconded but I still live at the family home and take care of the children?

Yes.

Your applying as the dependant of a Thai child under section 2.18

(4) In the case of children, adopted children, or spouse's children, said children, adopted children, or spouse's children must not be married, must live with the alien as part of the family, and must not be over 20 years of age except in case of the person more than one year. hereof is of illness or disability and cannot live without support of father or mother: or
(5) In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year.

Edited 14 minutes ago14 min by Liquorice

1 minute ago, Liquorice said:

Yes.

Your applying as the dependant of a Thai child under section 2.18

(4) In the case of children, adopted children, or spouse's children, said children, adopted children, or spouse's children must not be married, must live with the alien as Each permission shall be granted for no part of the family, and must not be over 20 years of age except in case of the person more than one year. hereof is of illness or disability and cannot live without support of father or mother: or
(5) In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year.

That's great. Yes I have the 400k seasoned as usual. He is 10yrs old.

Would you advise that I talk to Immigration before 12th October to make them aware?

Also any thoughts about witness...one of her friends maybe if you think solicitor over the top