brian1racing Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Am I subject to the same restrictions as aThai national when using the internet inside Thailand, or do these restrictions only apply to Thai nationals, i.e gambling websites based in the uk of which I am a National. Can I still use these lawfully inside Thailand as the site is based in the Uk, is totally legal in the UK and I am of British Nationality. I presume this question is ok administrator sorry if I worded it incorrectly before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putdk Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. What if i login from my laptop in Thailand to my Remote Server in DK, So im "gambling" and make some odds on some football matches from the Computer in my home country, And its my computer i DK im playing with and not my laptop in Thailand or what ? (its same i sit in front of my PC in DK and not in Thailand)... but maybe still illegal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singa-traz Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. Yes, but the OP is "virtually" in the UK ... ... so, does the Thai Law still apply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Depends on whether he gets caught... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumballl Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. Yes, but the OP is "virtually" in the UK ... ... so, does the Thai Law still apply? The law applies to the person, not the computer. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1308 Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Some of the UK-based gambling sites, at least six months ago, were not accessable from Thailand. And if you try to load funds with any form of Thai credit or debit card then it's almost always blocked by the Thai finance company. I am not sure what would happen in you used a UK-based form of payment. But like others have said gambling is prohibited from within Thailand, and I wouldn't like to be the one trying to explain the use of remote servers to the Police if I got caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. What if i login from my laptop in Thailand to my Remote Server in DK, So im "gambling" and make some odds on some football matches from the Computer in my home country, And its my computer i DK im playing with and not my laptop in Thailand or what ? (its same i sit in front of my PC in DK and not in Thailand)... but maybe still illegal... Now consider it another way.. You sit in the uk.. And browse something illegal (lets say child porn).. Do you really think the UK authorities would accept that your not liable to UK law becuase you bounce it through a proxy in cambodia ?? Do you think they would suddenly say "Oh your not subect to the laws of this land anymore.. Its cambodias problem" ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 You sit in the uk.. And browse something illegal (lets say child porn).. Do you really think the UK authorities would accept that your not liable to UK law becuase you bounce it through a proxy in cambodia ?? Do you think they would suddenly say "Oh your not subect to the laws of this land anymore.. Its cambodias problem" ?? Beat me to it, and put in a more eloquent way than I could manage anyway Back to the online gambling (we're not supposed to discus it anyway but) you are highly unlikely to get caught unless you piss someone off or go around bragging to all and sundry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKASA Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 The vary act of using software to try and do something like OP wants is in fact braking the law in Thailand. Naver mind what he wants to do when he gets there. Even if it is ligel where he does it, if it not legal here and you use software to try and cheat the system censors you have broke the law twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Is 'the very act of doing something like the OP wants' actually against the law ??? Wouldnt surprise me if it is but thats truly ridiculous.. I suspect every single one of the posters on TV have some kind of proxy working between them and the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazey Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. What if i login from my laptop in Thailand to my Remote Server in DK, So im "gambling" and make some odds on some football matches from the Computer in my home country, And its my computer i DK im playing with and not my laptop in Thailand or what ? (its same i sit in front of my PC in DK and not in Thailand)... but maybe still illegal... The very act of circumnavigating Thailands content control policies (as described above) to view material deemed inapropriate is in itself illegal. Technically you'd be breaking the law. Twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putdk Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. What if i login from my laptop in Thailand to my Remote Server in DK, So im "gambling" and make some odds on some football matches from the Computer in my home country, And its my computer i DK im playing with and not my laptop in Thailand or what ? (its same i sit in front of my PC in DK and not in Thailand)... but maybe still illegal... The very act of circumnavigating Thailands content control policies (as described above) to view material deemed inapropriate is in itself illegal. Technically you'd be breaking the law. Twice. okay, Thanx for your reply. Im not breaking the law, I only ask about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Valentine Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 The very act of circumnavigating Thailands content control policies (as described above) to view material deemed inapropriate is in itself illegal.Technically you'd be breaking the law. Twice. That's how I understand it too. But, given the fact that the new law, passed in July, requires a court decision in order to block an Internet site, and there are none so far, I am guessing that the blockages themselves are illegal, and the question is reduced to: Is it illegal to circumvent an illegal measure? Sunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirawk Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 When you're in Thailand you're subject to Thai law in the same way that a Thai living in the UK would be subject to UK law. Your nationality is irrelevant. Can someone tell me where I can look at the latest Thai internet law? Never hear about such law... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 The act is the Cyber Crime Act 2007. The area of concern is that many people are already interpreting the new law in different ways. As an example, on the day the bill was passed, senior police officers said that the law would be used to prosecute anyone bypassing state controls to access banned Web sites. However, an anonymous spokesman {from the ministry} opined that the clause the police were referring to is intended to allow police to prosecute hackers breaking into an organization's network, rather than citizens breaking out of the state's control, though on reflection, he admitted that at a glance it could be interpreted that way. Confused, you will be. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) Really ?? a Thai legal statute being vague and unclear ??? I never would have believed it !! Edited October 8, 2007 by LivinLOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmm Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Thailand Quote: ' Software applications for circumventing web-blocking are readily available. ... The Minister of Information Communications and Technology has said in an interview in the Bangkok Post that he has not blocked these methods because "using proxies to access illegal sites are illegal, whereas using proxies to access legal sites is legal." ' Since the nature of these tools is that no one monitoring your connection can tell what sites you are accessing - legal or illegal - one might conclude that this law might not be very successful. Edited October 8, 2007 by Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onethailand Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Strangely enough, a number of proxies are (or were) being blocked as of a couple months ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_ThailandQuote: ' Software applications for circumventing web-blocking are readily available. ... The Minister of Information Communications and Technology has said in an interview in the Bangkok Post that he has not blocked these methods because "using proxies to access illegal sites are illegal, whereas using proxies to access legal sites is legal." ' Since the nature of these tools is that no one monitoring your connection can tell what sites you are accessing - legal or illegal - one might conclude that this law might not be very successful. Wow! Hard to believe Sitthichai said that - it's totally logical thinking. I'm beginning to like this guy! (But I bet someone wrote down the answer for him ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Khun Sittichai is gone now, FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 What a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Khun Sittichai is gone now, FYI. Oh, that was quick - thanks for the update! So he doesn't get any credit for what was said, just for going. Ah well, "A man has to know his limitations" - Inspector Harry Callahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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