Suicide Rates

[garro]

I am confused by this thread and fail to see any evidence that Thailand is 11th place.

I think it is amazing how yet again negative posters can't wait to have a dig at Thailand.

I suppose it is all some people have to contribute.

let me guess, and you are a designated "defender of the realm", come off your high horse and take off the rose colored glasses, some people aspire more than to live marginally in a third world country (such as yourself) and can be disappointed at the reality LOS presents....the topic is a valid one

Oh dear, you may see Thailand as a marginally third world country; whatever that means.

That is your perogative but don't expect any agreement from me.

This thread is based on the idea that Thailand has the 11th highest suicide rate in the world.

I see no evidence for this.

If Thailand hasn't got a patriculary high suicide rate then I don't understand why people feel the need to debate why it is so high.

[garro]

Oh please, give me a break.

You are excused. You may take your break.

Thank you Mr GuestHouse.

Do I need to report to you when I come back ?

[GuestHouse]

Oh please, give me a break.

You are excused. You may take your break.

Thank you Mr GuestHouse.

Do I need to report to you when I come back ?

I'd rather you didn't.

[sbk]

Lets keep this civil please.

Since there is no evidence that Thailand places 11th on the list, the topic title has been edited to show that.

[garro]

The epidemiology of suicide in Thailand from 1977–2002 was presented. In the years 1977 and 2002, the suicide rates were 5.9 and 7.8 per 100,000 population. This is low compared to nearby Asian countries. The highest suicide rate was 8.6 per 100,000 in the year 1999, a time of economic crisis. The ratio of male to female suicide rate was 1.14:1 in the year 1977 and increased to 3.16:1 in the year 2002. The highest suicide rate was in young males, ages 25–29 and the trend shows an increase. Despite the increasing incidence, there has been little study to date; however, HIV/AIDS has been identified as a major risk factor.

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tand...000004/art00005

Perhaps people would like to discuss the low suicide rates in Thailand.

[t.s]

The epidemiology of suicide in Thailand from 1977–2002 was presented. In the years 1977 and 2002, the suicide rates were 5.9 and 7.8 per 100,000 population. This is low compared to nearby Asian countries. The highest suicide rate was 8.6 per 100,000 in the year 1999, a time of economic crisis. The ratio of male to female suicide rate was 1.14:1 in the year 1977 and increased to 3.16:1 in the year 2002. The highest suicide rate was in young males, ages 25–29 and the trend shows an increase. Despite the increasing incidence, there has been little study to date; however, HIV/AIDS has been identified as a major risk factor.

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tand...000004/art00005

Perhaps people would like to discuss the low suicide rates in Thailand.

i remember in 97 suicide in Bangkok was ridiculously common - in fact popular - amongst young females. there was always another one heading off the nearest tall building.

[Scott]

If you guys don't stop arguing I am going to jump!

[Payboy]

If you guys don't stop arguing I am going to jump!

this must be you...

[GuestHouse]

It would be interesting to know the suicide rates among farangs living in Thailand - Farangs topping themselves seemingly such a regular occurance. (Particularly in Pattaya).

[TheDon]

The epidemiology of suicide in Thailand from 1977–2002 was presented. In the years 1977 and 2002, the suicide rates were 5.9 and 7.8 per 100,000 population. This is low compared to nearby Asian countries. The highest suicide rate was 8.6 per 100,000 in the year 1999, a time of economic crisis. The ratio of male to female suicide rate was 1.14:1 in the year 1977 and increased to 3.16:1 in the year 2002. The highest suicide rate was in young males, ages 25–29 and the trend shows an increase. Despite the increasing incidence, there has been little study to date; however, HIV/AIDS has been identified as a major risk factor.

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/tand...000004/art00005

Perhaps people would like to discuss the low suicide rates in Thailand.

i remember in 97 suicide in Bangkok was ridiculously common - in fact popular - amongst young females. there was always another one heading off the nearest tall building.

are you serious

You think they were doing it because it was popular lol and ridiculaously common?

[naka]

I blame it on the Thai soapies ! Why do they cry sooo much ?

Dearest, either that TV goes or I do ... Ok, I'm off.

Naka.

[AlexLah]

What has US spending on war got to do with the problem of suicide in Thailand?

Well if you think a litlle bit further you would know.

What do you think 800 Billion Dollar could do when used to eridicate poverty?

Remember there are about 7 Billion people on this planet called Earth.

For Thailand the % is very small, only 10% is living below poverty levels, it means 6 Million people are living below poverty standard.

Not much is it?

Only 1 Dollar a day is needed to provide the poor with at least clean drinking water per person

Anyway the figure of Thailand being in 11th place of suicidal persons was extracted for Asian countries, I think.

I not remember how I came up with that but I looked at multiple sites and came to that when I posted.

My apologies for sending out a wrong message.

But when looking at what is happening in the world and done to help the poor, it is just sickening.

[TonyLeung]

it maybe nice for the expats and tourist ,not so nice for the thai worker on 4000b amonth.

Yes I do feel sad about those and why there is so many poor people in this world.

US is spending 800 Billion Dollar on the war in Iraq.

This money could be better spend helping the poor.

But it is far away from home, so what can we do?

This world is sick.

This sounds like something a really intelligent 5 year old would say.

[AlexLah]

it maybe nice for the expats and tourist ,not so nice for the thai worker on 4000b amonth.

Yes I do feel sad about those and why there is so many poor people in this world.

US is spending 800 Billion Dollar on the war in Iraq.

This money could be better spend helping the poor.

But it is far away from home, so what can we do?

This world is sick.

This sounds like something a really intelligent 5 year old would say.

What do you have to say other then this?

[southerndog]

One thing that i notice that is totally different is how suicides are handled by the media. In US, the media must have some sort of agreement not to publicize a death as suicide. Here, that's not the case.

Another thing, is that they tend to martyr the person, and imo, making it a more attractive option for those considering the same actions.

[TonyLeung]

What has US spending on war got to do with the problem of suicide in Thailand?

As far as I understood, he ment that if the reason, that poor people in Thailand are more prone to commit suicide, because of lack of money, then it would save many lifes to spend the money on these poor thai's, instead of use the money to kill other humans in Iraq.

With all respect.

pp.

How many other poor countries are there in the world that the United States is morally responsible for?

Edited November 15, 2007 by TonyLeung

[TonyLeung]

it maybe nice for the expats and tourist ,not so nice for the thai worker on 4000b amonth.

Yes I do feel sad about those and why there is so many poor people in this world.

US is spending 800 Billion Dollar on the war in Iraq.

This money could be better spend helping the poor.

But it is far away from home, so what can we do?

This world is sick.

This sounds like something a really intelligent 5 year old would say.

What do you have to say other then this?

If I were to make a list of ways to spot dumb people, blaming a completely unrelated problem on the American government and the War in Iraq would be right at the top.

Somchai jumped out of a coconut tree and smashed his skull because he saw Ping kissing his cousin, well thats clearly Dick Cheney's fault.

Villa ran out of imported tomatos? Its probably because of the escalating price of oil, a Saudi-American conspiracy. Think about the tomato surplus that would exist if the USA withdrew from Iraq.

Edited November 15, 2007 by TonyLeung

[Heng]

That was one dramatic thread title. Hope the OP is feeling better now.

[Oleg_Rus]

"Easy, Quick, With Care"

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[TheDon]

Ok this topic seems to be going in a different direction.

Yeap in a perfect world we should solve povety, but the world is run by money.

The world isnt perfect, but I do wish foreign aid is increased by 1000%

[swain]

Ok this topic seems to be going in a different direction.

Yeap in a perfect world we should solve poverty, but the world is run by money.

The world isn't perfect, but I do wish foreign aid is increased by 1000%

Very possible if the war effort goes down by 100% I see no benefit to the USA to prolong this war. Why are we constantly getting into these situations. I am an American and I am truly embarrassed to be one now a days.

I don't see myself going back ever.

Suicide is a personal choice. I have had one friend come and visit me here after the bubble burst and he lost all his money.. I am talking about over fifty million. He thought he could come to Thailand and magically transform his life. He just couldn't get past it -- after only 6 months he over dosed on sleeping pills in a hotel room in Udon Thani. But I believe he would have done it in the USA had he not done it here. Too many people that are unhappy else where come here thinking that Thailand will give them a reason to live. To be honest, it has for some, but for the most part, if you were unhappy there you will be unhappy here. No magic fairy dust here.

[kmart]

'Suicide is Painless'

Through early morning fog I see

visions of the things to be

the pains that are withheld for me

I realize and I can see...

[REFRAIN]:

that suicide is painless

It brings on many changes

and I can take or leave it if I please.

I try to find a way to make

all our little joys relate

without that ever-present hate

but now I know that it's too late, and...

[REFRAIN]

The game of life is hard to play

I'm gonna lose it anyway

The losing card I'll someday lay

so this is all I have to say.

[REFRAIN]

The only way to win is cheat

And lay it down before I'm beat

and to another give my seat

for that's the only painless feat.

[REFRAIN]

The sword of time will pierce our skins

It doesn't hurt when it begins

But as it works its way on in

The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...

[REFRAIN]

A brave man once requested me

to answer questions that are key

is it to be or not to be

and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

[REFRAIN]

'Cause suicide is painless

it brings on many changes

and I can take or leave it if I please.

...and you can do the same thing if you please.

[sbk]

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discussing suicide rates is not really a problem, but then trying to blame some poor soul's emotional issues on US policy or discussing suicide as some kind of joke is not.

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