Wine Farming In Los

[Scottbiker1976]

Hi all,

Im looking for information about wine farming possibilities in Los.

We want to know how the yields are per/rai of land, how many trees/rai, investment cost/rai, costs of the vines, growing time in this climate before harvesting, things like this....

Anybody who can help me on the way with this ?

Thanks in advance

Scottbiker

[tim armstrong]

Hi all,

Im looking for information about wine farming possibilities in Los.

We want to know how the yields are per/rai of land, how many trees/rai, investment cost/rai, costs of the vines, growing time in this climate before harvesting, things like this....

Anybody who can help me on the way with this ?

Thanks in advance

Scottbiker

Gday,

Have thought about this one too. The climate is tricky here unless you're high up. But this year might be good as there is a cold spell predicted. Probably the easiest is to work backwards and go to some vineyards. The Thai wines I've tasted are just not there yet. They are packaged well and cheap, but a long way from being there. The best one I've tried is a sweet red wine called 'Lady sweet wine' from Sokonnakon. Its very good if you're into sweet wines. Its an organic Mao red wine bottled by - De Pupanne Ltd Part 139 Moo 10 Sakon - Dongkhumkhao Rd., Sokonnakhon. Ph: 66 42 747349 - E: www.depupanne.com Good luck.Would be interested if you find some good info. Good luck, Tim

[klikster]

Hi all,

Im looking for information about wine farming possibilities in Los.

We want to know how the yields are per/rai of land, how many trees/rai, investment cost/rai, costs of the vines, growing time in this climate before harvesting, things like this....

Anybody who can help me on the way with this ?

Thanks in advance

Scottbiker

Look up Silverlake Vinyards (near Pattaya). I read an article about how that was developed, and the folks that do it have worked out a program that uses the vinyard's water reserve as a fish farm. It "appears" that they are very helpful.

I believe there is some correlation with the Pak Chong area as well.

[Beardog]

Hi Scott,

Where are you located as good grapes like a cool season as well as temps under 80 degrees somewhere around 30 Celsius.

I used to like in Sonoma California for about 11 years & knew a lot of the growers. Last year most of the vineyards were switching to red wines & canceling a lot of the white wines as the temps have been getting hotter the last 6 years the other alternatives for white wines were moving parts of their operation to Schellville (the salt flats ) near the ocean , it is about 10 degrees Faranheight

sorry about the mis spelling. Red wines will do well in heat. The best grapes in the world usually have a cold season so the grapes can go dormant for 3-4 months. I live near Silverlake & there grapes are in the not quite there bracket- comparing to Napa Sonoma California or the Australian wines.They seem to make their killing off their grape juice(which is excellent) Even though the wines in France are excellent,cause I lived in Wine country in California it was not really to cool to drink France's product. Stupid custom I know.

If you live in higher country with an actuall cold season, your wine will yield a much better blend & flavor . I was going to try Here in Bang Sare. It is a little cooler than Pattaya. In the U.S. Oregon & Cal. I did very well On producing some tasty Blends.-but both of the states have cold snaps. as tim suggested if you live higher up That would be the ticket.

Good luck on your growing & if you remember post where you are. A lot of us would like to make some mighty fine wine

Beardog

Edited November 21, 2007 by Beardog

[Scottbiker1976]

Hi Scott,

Where are you located as good grapes like a cool season as well as temps under 80 degrees somewhere around 30 Celsius.

I used to like in Sonoma California for about 11 years & knew a lot of the growers. Last year most of the vineyards were switching to red wines & canceling a lot of the white wines as the temps have been getting hotter the last 6 years the other alternatives for white wines were moving parts of their operation to Schellville (the salt flats ) near the ocean , it is about 10 degrees Faranheight

sorry about the mis spelling. Red wines will do well in heat. The best grapes in the world usually have a cold season so the grapes can go dormant for 3-4 months. I live near Silverlake & there grapes are in the not quite there bracket- comparing to Napa Sonoma California or the Australian wines.They seem to make their killing off their grape juice(which is excellent) Even though the wines in France are excellent,cause I lived in Wine country in California it was not really to cool to drink France's product. Stupid custom I know.

If you live in higher country with an actuall cold season, your wine will yield a much better blend & flavor . I was going to try Here in Bang Sare. It is a little cooler than Pattaya. In the U.S. Oregon & Cal. I did very well On producing some tasty Blends.-but both of the states have cold snaps. as tim suggested if you live higher up That would be the ticket.

Good luck on your growing & if you remember post where you are. A lot of us would like to make some mighty fine wine

Beardog

Hi,

The location we want to settle in is either Pak chong or Kanchanaburi, it seems to have a very nice climate for the grapes over there.......

Scottbiker

[Beardog]

Hi Scott,

Where are you located as good grapes like a cool season as well as temps under 80 degrees somewhere around 30 Celsius.

I used to like in Sonoma California for about 11 years & knew a lot of the growers. Last year most of the vineyards were switching to red wines & canceling a lot of the white wines as the temps have been getting hotter the last 6 years the other alternatives for white wines were moving parts of their operation to Schellville (the salt flats ) near the ocean , it is about 10 degrees Faranheight

sorry about the mis spelling. Red wines will do well in heat. The best grapes in the world usually have a cold season so the grapes can go dormant for 3-4 months. I live near Silverlake & there grapes are in the not quite there bracket- comparing to Napa Sonoma California or the Australian wines.They seem to make their killing off their grape juice(which is excellent) Even though the wines in France are excellent,cause I lived in Wine country in California it was not really to cool to drink France's product. Stupid custom I know.

If you live in higher country with an actuall cold season, your wine will yield a much better blend & flavor . I was going to try Here in Bang Sare. It is a little cooler than Pattaya. In the U.S. Oregon & Cal. I did very well On producing some tasty Blends.-but both of the states have cold snaps. as tim suggested if you live higher up That would be the ticket.

Good luck on your growing & if you remember post where you are. A lot of us would like to make some mighty fine wine

Beardog

Hi,

The location we want to settle in is either Pak chong or Kanchanaburi, it seems to have a very nice climate for the grapes over there.......

Scottbiker

Hi Scott ,

Sounds like your fortunate Cause it actually has a cold season to speak of -not like the Pattaya area 1 week a year it gets cool. You should be able to turn out some decent table wines.

I forgot to mention about 6-8 weeks ago they had a good wine (growing) forum .

If you search for wine or growing grapes on the forum search you should be able to get some good info, sorry I dont have the link to it, but if you search it ,it has some more detailed techniches about how to in your region.

good luck to you-Hope you get the kind blend going!

[chownah]

Hi,

The location we want to settle in is either Pak chong or Kanchanaburi, it seems to have a very nice climate for the grapes over there.......

Scottbiker

So, what is the climate there that makes it nice for grapes?

[phibunmike]

Hi all,

Im looking for information about wine farming possibilities in Los.

We want to know how the yields are per/rai of land, how many trees/rai, investment cost/rai, costs of the vines, growing time in this climate before harvesting, things like this....

Anybody who can help me on the way with this ?

Thanks in advance

Scottbiker

I don't know the answers, but I know a man who does; well, actually I don't, but you might find this website interesting:

http://www.bangkokwinesociety.com/Vineyards.htm

I can tell you that my experimental vines in Isaan failed rather miserably...

Cheers,

Mike