What's Haoppening?

[Narachon]

God Forbid....

[mbkudu]

Imagine you are a Thai guy, and told that your girlfriend is having sex with a big baldheaded Farang guy for all the world to see....I guess that would be the ultimate loss of face, I guess....

Are you serious? A lot of these blokes are probably sending their little birds out in front of the camera to get the cash rolling in for them. They're not any different than the ####'s in Patpong who send their wives into bars to swing around the chrome and then hit the short time hotels with a foreign stranger.

As usual, it's straying off topic. To get back on topic: Don't get between a Thai man and his woman or you might end up on the bottom'o the Chao Praya.

Edited September 26, 2004 by mbkudu

[Narachon]

Imagine you are a Thai guy, and told that your girlfriend is having sex with a big baldheaded Farang guy for all the world to see....I guess that would be the ultimate loss of face, I guess....

Are you serious? A lot of these blokes are probably sending their little birds out in front of the camera to get the cash rolling in for them. They're not any different than the ####'s in Patpong who send their wives into bars to swing around the chrome and then hit the short time hotels with a foreign stranger.

Me ? Narachon, Serious? come on Mbkudu

Anyway, If what you say is the case,what was the reason for this Nigel Guy getting stabbed ? Was it just a simple argument with the wrong guy at the wrong time, totally unrelated to his biz - ness??

Oh well...... I guess he liked to Live fast and Dangerous.......

I can imagine his funeral....... All those ladies paying their last respects.....

[mbkudu]

I have never seen the guy, so I can't comment. I just know that there are some guys who use their wives or girlfriends as money generators and could care less who is shagging them as long as the money comes in and they don't get emotionally attached; a whore and pimp relationship? Gee, I don't know. Everybody is on a different level.

[BlueTa]

I just know that there are some guys who use their wives or girlfriends as money generators and could care less who is shagging them as long as the money comes in and they don't get emotionally attached; a whore and pimp relationship? Gee, I don't know. Everybody is on a different level.

I guess this is the very definition of a pimp and should not be accepted, however open minded you are...

[Halo]

Thai's are known for their toleraance as well as their smiles.

This is true and has been for many years and I believe will be so for many more years to come. Perhaps its reporting or perhaps you only pick out the news you want to hear, have a look at whats going on in your area back home.

If you dont like it then go back to where you came from, stop whinging, probably a German anyway.

[Ice Treasure]

Nigel.

Strange name for a porn star.

Not really.. the star of our local pawn shop is named Nigel.. Pommie as well.

[Darknight]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved    I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls   no wonder he got that treatment   long time coming in my opinion   maybe the camera man will be next  

So Nigel's the 50 something bald guy all over the web? Always wondered about that guy, like he'd lost it and went to Asia to swim into the dark depths. Jeez. That's a story waiting to be told. Would like to hear what is said at his funeral.

Maybe this will boost his site hits numbers. The Doors sold more records after Jim Morrison died than when he was alive.

So THAT guy is Nigel???

I admit I've also been to those same naughty Thai girl websites myself, but didn't know any of the male actors names....I really wasn't paying attention to them

So is he really dead? I understand why he got gutted..... Imagine you are a Thai guy, and told that your girlfriend is having sex with a big baldheaded Farang guy for all the world to see....I guess that would be the ultimate loss of face, I guess....

Hmmm....I wonder, if you are given a choice, what would you do..... You can either live a long life with no sex, or have as much sex as you want with plenty of hot women, only that someday you will be gutted and killed by a jealous boyfriend.....Which would you choose?

I choose the former... There is always the Thai porn sites.....

Is he the "An ugly bald White git and a hairy ######er" ???

Sure he deserved it

[phormio]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved    I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls   no wonder he got that treatment   long time coming in my opinion   maybe the camera man will be next  

So Nigel's the 50 something bald guy all over the web? Always wondered about that guy, like he'd lost it and went to Asia to swim into the dark depths. Jeez. That's a story waiting to be told. Would like to hear what is said at his funeral.

Maybe this will boost his site hits numbers. The Doors sold more records after Jim Morrison died than when he was alive.

So THAT guy is Nigel???

I admit I've also been to those same naughty Thai girl websites myself, but didn't know any of the male actors names....I really wasn't paying attention to them

So is he really dead? I understand why he got gutted..... Imagine you are a Thai guy, and told that your girlfriend is having sex with a big baldheaded Farang guy for all the world to see....I guess that would be the ultimate loss of face, I guess....

Hmmm....I wonder, if you are given a choice, what would you do..... You can either live a long life with no sex, or have as much sex as you want with plenty of hot women, only that someday you will be gutted and killed by a jealous boyfriend.....Which would you choose?

I choose the former... There is always the Thai porn sites.....

Is he the "An ugly bald White git and a hairy ######er" ???

Sure he deserved it

It's a bit nasty to wish a gutting on anybody. I doubt Nigel and his crew were chopping their co-stars to bits.

[mbkudu]

It's a bit nasty to wish a gutting on anybody.

Have to agree. One of the things that really turned me off about Begs/Polo was his incessant wishing of ill will to Farangs of dubious morals. I would especially never trust a friend who wished ill will upon others. It's fine to critisise others and put them down, but to hope that they are robbed, beaten or killed is terribly wrong.

[Totster]

It's one thing to visit these girls for a night of carnal pleasure, and a completely different thing to film/photograph the whole episode and plaster it all over the Net (charging people to see them) ..... it's bound to piss some thai (and some farang)people off..!!

He likes to have his image on these photo's also... seems to me like he is showing off...!!

totster

[mussen]

I was sitting on Sukhumvit Road a few weeks back at about 2:30am, and saw a few blokes (all farang) fighting each other, on closer inspection one of them turned out to be Nigel, with a attackers telling him he's a low life for what he does.

Personally I think if both sides are consenting then they're not hurting anyone. Is Rocco a lowlife for rooting gorgeous girls and selling the video?

Rape, pimping and non-consentual videoing are a different story.......

[sriracha john]

He looks like an old man maybe early or late 50's with so many young girls Sad.

Is that, in and of itself, sad?

[merlin1]

If it is the same guy, his ugly mug can be found all over the web, although his site is asianstreetmeat.com -- I think. He's one ugly bugger for sure. I sort of feel sorry for the guy. On one hand, he's probably a totally f#ked up person but I wonder how he came to this. Was it an Aids or an inoperable cancer diagnosis? Guess I don't want to think that an otherwise ordinary sane person willingly plunges and then revels in the depths of human misery.

[medicinebox]

There are many sites that degrade women. Take Max Hardcore for instance. He's a nasty old man, but he only does what he pays for.

I find it sickening, but each to there own. Just remeber though, these aren't sweet little angels in the porn game. They are whoring sluts. I for one have no sympathy. Like that american porn queen who got aids. She was crying in an interview. It's an occupational hazard. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but som nom naa.

[IamMaiC]

Mr. IamMaiC,

I respect you for openly admitting that you 'look dirty pictures'.

Do you like to see only the male models killed or also the women?

In the first case you might suffer of a strange kind of 'penis envy', which might be a sign that you were a lesbian in your former life (or going to be one in your next life).

I don't want anyone hurt The men or the women But Nigel goes through women like a duck goes through water, The scary part if this I didn't relise how many woman are working as bargirls Man it's crazy I don't suffer any kind of envy for any man I don't blame this guy for what he did for work Hey whatever he wants it's his life But I guess he pissed off someone and they took revenge on him who knows if it's true and who knows if he got cut because he slept with all these girls.

Well to anyone whos is interested this is Naughty Nigel and this is the only decent pic i could find I mean Him not engaging in sex but with the smile on his face in this pic it wont be long that thai girl is also smiling.

[Darknight]

that's the ugly ass i was talking about , just didn't want to name his site .

Even for a porn site this guy is a sicky....

[Narachon]

So is this Nigel guy dead or what?

[Limbo]

Very funny, nobody knows Mr. Nigel as a person, but many wish him death because he plays in pornographic films.

The people who want him death or hurt are looking at pornographic materials themselves. So they are part of the same game.

So in a way they want to bite their own tail.

There is no logic in this at the first view.

The explanation should be in psychological terms.

From the view of the male consumer of pornography the male model represents him. There is a certain measure of self-identification with the male model.

Some of ther contribuants to this thread express an irrational hate. This hate is based on the fact that they would like to have sex with the female model, but cannot have (the person is made of paper or the glass of the monitor-screen).

Their anger directs itself irrationally towards the male model, as he is perceived as a rival, who succeeds where the onlooker fails.

So I would conclude that the hate towards a completely unknown person as a male sex-model is heavily related to the sexual frustration of the person who utters it.

Why, in the name of any Higher Spirit, would somebody want a model dead?

On the base of the lowest gutfeelings!

[jakesideas]

I don't think that this is irrational hate. The reason that I would like to see this man die is that I think that he probably has AIDS or other diseases and is spreading it with having sex with so many women while not wearing a condom. And I know many people do that everyday but that is not the only reason. The main reason is that he is so disrespectful and cruel towards the girls that he has sex with. I don't mind porn and I look at it from time to time but the stuff I have seen on his website stuck in my head because it just seemed so wrong. Even if most of the girls he has sex with are bargirls or street prostitutes I find that they look very unhappy and he takes advantage of them. Limbo when you say that this male model is my rival I don't think so. I know that I could have girls in the way that he does but I choose not to. I think about these girls as if they were my girlfriend or daughter and it makes me feel very bad and makes me feel like I want to kill this guy.

[frond]

Thought I'd just pop my head back into the thread I started to read any pertinent comments to it. There aren't any.

Seems all of you are obsessed with Nigel the pornstar. I only used him as an example. Whether he deserved getting sliced up or not isn't the question. I was trying to get a discussion going on the growing violence against foreigners in Thailand.

I would like to see this man die

makes me feel like I want to kill this guy.

Jakesideas--you are disturbed.

[phormio]

I don't think that this is irrational hate. The reason that I would like to see this man die is that I think that he probably has AIDS or other diseases and is spreading it with having sex with so many women while not wearing a condom. And I know many people do that everyday but that is not the only reason. The main reason is that he is so disrespectful and cruel towards the girls that he has sex with. I don't mind porn and I look at it from time to time but the stuff I have seen on his website stuck in my head because it just seemed so wrong. Even if most of the girls he has sex with are bargirls or street prostitutes I find that they look very unhappy and he takes advantage of them. Limbo when you say that this male model is my rival I don't think so. I know that I could have girls in the way that he does but I choose not to. I think about these girls as if they were my girlfriend or daughter and it makes me feel very bad and makes me feel like I want to kill this guy.

Nobody really knows if Nigel did get killed or severely injured; but my guess is the girls in the pictures are probably demanding to get paid extra for being in the pictures. Speculation on wether he has HIV/AIDs is just speculation(is he using condoms). If the pictures do depict the girls in humiliating positions, perhaps it is no more humiliating than the average 'trick'.

[merlin1]

I don't think that this is irrational hate. The reason that I would like to see this man die is that I think that he probably has AIDS or other diseases and is spreading it with having sex with so many women while not wearing a condom. And I know many people do that everyday but that is not the only reason. The main reason is that he is so disrespectful and cruel towards the girls that he has sex with. I don't mind porn and I look at it from time to time but the stuff I have seen on his website stuck in my head because it just seemed so wrong. Even if most of the girls he has sex with are bargirls or street prostitutes I find that they look very unhappy and he takes advantage of them. Limbo when you say that this male model is my rival I don't think so. I know that I could have girls in the way that he does but I choose not to. I think about these girls as if they were my girlfriend or daughter and it makes me feel very bad and makes me feel like I want to kill this guy.

Jake I think you're right. I take a look at porn from time to time but was really put off by Nigel's stuff. It just looks very degrading for all concerned. There is an element of this in all porn of course, but I think there are noteworthy differences. The girls here have no smiles at all (false or genuine for that matter) and even the photos have a cruel harshness about them.

I don't think I'd want to kill him. I feel pity for him instead. And for the girls.

I know this Nigel tangent is off thread but it seems to have captured the mood of the group.

[thai3]

men. The lyrics to a few look thung songs have also illustrated the sad plight of the Thai man whose wife leaves him for a foreigner (the lyricists excuse was that it was “for money”).

Can anyone name any such songs or the singers? I have not seen any examples of falangs appearing in country songs at all, although there are a few references to falangland and the odd complete song about a falang country, where a thai might be working, or a song like arai world trade centre. The only one I can think of is in a Job and Joy song, but that does not involve the girl leaving a thai man for the falang.

On Nigel this would seem to be a rumour which remains to be confimed, nobody else seems to have heard of the incident. I would not wish this to happen to him, perhaps being kicked in a klong though-peter

[IamMaiC]

I don't think that this is irrational hate.  The reason that I would like to see this man die is that I think that he probably has AIDS or other diseases and is spreading it with having sex with so many women while not wearing a condom.  And I know many people do that everyday but that is not the only reason.  The main reason is that he is so disrespectful and cruel towards the girls that he has sex with.  I don't mind porn and I look at it from time to time but the stuff I have seen on his website stuck in my head because it just seemed so wrong.  Even if most of the girls he has sex with are bargirls or street prostitutes I find that they look very unhappy and he takes advantage of them.  Limbo when you say that this male model is my rival I don't think so.  I know that I could have girls in the way that he does but I choose not to.  I think about these girls as if they were my girlfriend or daughter and it makes me feel very bad and makes me feel like I want to kill this guy.

Jake I think you're right. I take a look at porn from time to time but was really put off by Nigel's stuff. It just looks very degrading for all concerned. There is an element of this in all porn of course, but I think there are noteworthy differences. The girls here have no smiles at all (false or genuine for that matter) and even the photos have a cruel harshness about them.

I don't think I'd want to kill him. I feel pity for him instead. And for the girls.

I know this Nigel tangent is off thread but it seems to have captured the mood of the group.

Some people feel this way including myself because I have not been exposed to that kind of life the bargirl arena so to speak, Espacially when your married to a regular thai girl it's hard to see pictures of girls treated like this.

I saw a "Free Movie" from one of his websites the thing that surprised me was he seemed loving to the girl at first, then you know they got it on after a while. Then towards the end he seemed too rough on her.

She didn't stay long ran into the bathroom to clean off. This man may have aids who knows?? who even knows if this violence came to him. He could still be safe and alive as we write our forum.

I can't say why the increase in violence towards farangs I hope it is not a lived long thing and hope it stops soon.