Wifes Daughter To Uk-fathers Permission

[Chivas]

Hi,

Hardly a unique situation but we wish to relocate to the UK early next year with wife and step daughter.

I understand that whilst the fathers name is on the birth certificate he actually disappeared 4 months into the pregnancy and has never seen the child, or supported her.

The wife apparently contacted a lawyer some 3 years previous and a document was "produced" stating she has full parental responsibility etc etc.

I have not seen the document/translated document at this time.

My initial emails to the British embassy have been ignored (as usual) asking if they will require a letter/documentation from the father, giving permission for the child to leave the country.

The wife has no idea where he may be.

Anyone have recent experience on this.

Chivas

[mariner29]

Yes i had exactly that situation does your wife have a sole custody doc/paper ?

I wrote a letter confirming my wife had sole responsibility of the child etc we had her name changed to match my wife's family name. I did in fact contact the father and he confirmed in writing he had no issues with his daughter living in the UK. As long as you can provide evidence that your wife has sole responsibility i cant see you having any problems.

Edited July 30, 2008 by mariner29

[Boo]

Get the sole custody document translated & make sure before hand that it clearly states that the biological father has no rights & that should be sufficient for the application.

[the scouser]

It's not the British embassy that requires a document to allow the child out of Thailand, but, potentially, the Thai authorities.

For the purposes of the visa application, the embassy will generally accept an assertion that the biological father has never made a contribution to the child's life, either financially or emotionally, and the Por Kor 14 will help demonstrate this. However, the Por Kor 14 is not, per se, evidence that your wife has sole responsibility for her child, which is a factor in the consideration of most child settlement visa applications.

Scouse.

[Chivas]

It's not the British embassy that requires a document to allow the child out of Thailand, but, potentially, the Thai authorities.

For the purposes of the visa application, the embassy will generally accept an assertion that the biological father has never made a contribution to the child's life, either financially or emotionally, and the Por Kor 14 will help demonstrate this. However, the Por Kor 14 is not, per se, evidence that your wife has sole responsibility for her child, which is a factor in the consideration of most child settlement visa applications.

Scouse.

Hi,

So what might you suggest we do, assuming it is the "Por Kor 14" document she already holds ??

Asking an official for clarification at he B.E. is a complete waste of time as none will committ there names/signatures to points of law such as this.

[the scouser]

Whether your wife will be considered to have sole responsibility for her daughter will largely depend upon the circumstances of her daughter's current living arrangements. With whom does she live, who currently financially supports her, who's responsible for arranging schooling, medical treatment etc.? If the answer to all three is your wife, then it is likely that your wife will be perceived to have sole responsibility. If not, then the waters might be a bit muddied.

Scouse.

[roygsd]

Hi,

Hardly a unique situation but we wish to relocate to the UK early next year with wife and step daughter.

I understand that whilst the fathers name is on the birth certificate he actually disappeared 4 months into the pregnancy and has never seen the child, or supported her.

The wife apparently contacted a lawyer some 3 years previous and a document was "produced" stating she has full parental responsibility etc etc.

I have not seen the document/translated document at this time.

My initial emails to the British embassy have been ignored (as usual) asking if they will require a letter/documentation from the father, giving permission for the child to leave the country.

The wife has no idea where he may be.

Anyone have recent experience on this.

Chivas

Send it to Croydon instead, by recorded delivery and email & marked for the attention of the Thailand Desk,

be persistent and call the Thailand Desk on the phone, often, they dont bite! but they will try to dodge committing themselves to a definative answer, IF YOU LET THEM!

Good luck

Roy

[bdenner]

I assume the daughter doesn't have a passport. TW's daughter was in a similar situation, to get her a passport TW had to get 'sole custody' and have the daughters name changed to her maiden name. This required court appearances in Udon Thani with a lawyer and senior family members. We also had to get ALL the family into the local Amphur (at the same time) to make out 'stat decs' confirming TW as sole supporter. One brother did not show up, spent the money I gave him to travel on whatever so I had to part with some lunch money for his signature to suddenly appear on his paperwork.

To get tourist visas to Aus the embassy wasn't too fussed about seeing all the paper work. It was required (translated) when we applied for residency. I think the requirements in the UK and Aus are roughly the same?

[pibill]

We when through this several years ago before our marriage and prior to submitting the paperwork for the visas.

These were the steps we followed in the process and had no problem having a visa granted. My wife, myself and two thai individuals (one a family member and one a longtime friend) went to the ampur where they are registered to obtain the Por. Khor. 14 for a requisition to record the fact regarding child maintenance. She was interviewed by one of the deputy district chiefs about the purpose and circumstances and attested that she was the sole support of her daughter, providing food, clothing, shelter, etc. The deputy cheif then interveiwed both the family member and friend verifing their relationship, knowledge of the family, etc and thwt attested to the fact that my wife was the sole support. Also, filled out a Form Cor. 1 application to change her daughter's family name to my wife's maiden name. (don't recall which we did first, but it was on the same day).

Once these documents were granted and officially stamped by the district, we applied for the child's passport (bringing with us the original birth certificate, Por Khor 14 and 1). The documents were accepted and a passport was granted with my wife's surname. Following that we then applied for the visa and submitted all related documents and offical translations to the embassy, which was granted. Although the interviewer did ask the whereabouts of the father and was informed that it was unknown because of abandonment.