Did Your Father Teach You To Work Hard And Be Succesful?

[teacup]

Did Your Father Teach You To Work Hard And Be Succesful?

Not exactly, however he had taught me that…

Having education is the best insurance policy and….

Never never….work for someone else, exept for your own.

[siamamerican]

Never never….work for someone else, exept for your own.

Why not work for someone else? Unless someone (family) gives you the cash to start your own company, working for someone else is a great way to learn and get paid at the same time.

My father was his own boss for many years, but he learned his trade while working hard for others. Most people build a network working for others and then start their own companies, utilizing that network and skills they acquired.

[teacup]

Never never….work for someone else, exept for your own.

Why not work for someone else? Unless someone (family) gives you the cash to start your own company, working for someone else is a great way to learn and get paid at the same time.

My father was his own boss for many years, but he learned his trade while working hard for others. Most people build a network working for others and then start their own companies, utilizing that network and skills they acquired.

Most richies have their own company, have you notice?

I think it difficult to explain the benefits of being your own boss to someone who has never done it for himself. It’s not all just about economically but mentally of your own self accomplishment as well.

To me, short term working for someone else for gaining knowledge and building networks of connection is ok, but long term for me it would be impossible . The reasons?

Just to name a few…..

No total control

No flexibility

No total freedom to set goal

No total freedom to work at my own pace

No freedom of setting my own salary , etc

In addition to…..I have the personalities that wouldn’t suit quite well for working under someone else anyway.

But if you’re happy working for someone else, then good for you.

BTW - I have my own company with the works of my own hands and brain, not daddy's money, and I’m competing with the americans in their own turf

[siamamerican]

Never never….work for someone else, exept for your own.

Why not work for someone else? Unless someone (family) gives you the cash to start your own company, working for someone else is a great way to learn and get paid at the same time.

My father was his own boss for many years, but he learned his trade while working hard for others. Most people build a network working for others and then start their own companies, utilizing that network and skills they acquired.

Most richies have their own company, have you notice?

I think it difficult to explain the benefits of being your own boss to someone who has never done it for himself. It’s not all just about economically but mentally of your own self accomplishment as well.

To me, short term working for someone else for gaining knowledge and building networks of connection is ok, but long term for me it would be impossible . The reasons?

Just to name a few…..

No total control

No flexibility

No total freedom to set goal

No total freedom to work at my own pace

No freedom of setting my own salary , etc

In addition to…..I have the personalities that wouldn’t suit quite well for working under someone else anyway.

But if you’re happy working for someone else, then good for you.

BTW - I have my own company with the works of my own hands and brain, not daddy's money, and I’m competing with the americans in their own turf

Not really hard at all to explain the benefits. What are you talking about. I've worked for myself and for others. How did you acquire the knowledge and funds to start your own company? Most successful entrepreneurs didn't follow your father's mantra, “NEVER, NEVER work for someone else”.

Congrats on never working for someone else. Do you tell your employees that they should never work for you.

[teacup]

No I work for myself only, don’t like people running around and getting in my ways, and more of the quality control and liabilities issue. I used to have 2 drafters working for me, but sadly to say they were totally useless and bad for my liability insurance. I’m a very detailed and control freak, toward my works that is, not to my husband tho.

And it’s not that difficult to work on your own as an architect, when you have to do is…..have the right education, a few years of experiences with others, network of clienteles, and …then whala you can be on your own. It has been great financialy and metally for the past 15 yrs so far.

Edited August 4, 2008 by teacup

[ray23]

Well it didn't close It has went a new direction. But, it's interesting so color me a happy camper.

Working for others or self employed I have done and enjoyed both. Personally I learned that I would never really be succesful monetarily in my owe buisness. I always poored my entire being into setup, but then as a general rule I got bored with it, when it all came together. So I did the next best thing went to work for the governement' got my retirement locked in. Then I could play in business, do it my way and be happy. I never really ever started busniess where I had sufficient start up capitol. But, had to be creative to make things work. All of them have been succesful. But, the big bucks are usually made on a long term basis.

No complaints I was able to enjoy myself and make a living. Staying the course for that retirement, has proved to be the best decesion in my life. Now I don't have to do anything and live very well, not rich but I have everything I need and most of what I want.

The part about being honest in life was also a important aspect I learned from my Father. I have lied darn right, don't really know many that haven't in thier lives. Not sure if it's a real blessing I have one friend that had a heck of a time with polygraphs. Questions like have you ever taken a pen form work. He hadn't. But, the operators just couldn't believe it

So my Father and Mother passed on and lived thier lives in a way that was a good example for me to learn from. Were they rich no, but they were very good people.

I hope I have passed at least a little bit of this to my Children. As they began to become a bit older I imvolved them in any buisness that I was doing, at a level they could handle. Did they become very proficient, no to young. But, they knew early on where money came from. it didn't just fall out of the sky. They also saw me being fair in business admitting and fixing mistakes. Paying for those mistakes and benefiting from being honest.

So hopefully along with a good education, much better then what I was able to do. They have the building blocks to live a more succesful life then I did. That is what my parents did for me.

[duchovny]

"Did Your Father Teach You To Work Hard And Be Succesful?"

Yes. That's why I am successful and can live anywhere in the world, walk through any door and associate with whomever I like including heads of state down to the sleaziest of Pattaya hookers.

However, in SE Asia this is not the case. These kids (especially the boys) have role models who are usually undisciplined, uneducated, characterless men who are without honor and dignity. That's why they usually turn out to be the <deleted> that they are. Of course there are exceptions, but they are in the minority.

This is not only confined to Thailand but right across Se Asia.

It's obvious to anyone who's lived here for longer than 5 minutes.

[Heng]

For those set on working for themselves, IMO it's much more common to work for someone else first... that's where you learn how much it sucks not to be the boss. I've had a total of 6 employers since age 15, and the very last one at age 22. Got fired/asked to leave from 5 of them. Thanks to those employers, I've learned to never have to worry about that again.

[poshthai]

Treat others how you want to be treated yourself.Thats what my dad always said and it works.

except for the dickheads then do to them before they do to you.

[Edonista]

freedom of setting my own salary

this month best one.....

I wonder if Pattaya peddlers feel free to set their own salary too

[bkkjames]

My father taught me how to drink beer - very successful he was.

[PeaceBlondie]

My father never said much, but he led by example. He taught us to work hard and smart. To be a gentleman or a lady. To respect people. To not be prejudiced. To keep our temper. To never hit anybody. To learn, in school and at work.

[TheDon]

My father taught me not to b a pussy, one day after school this kid was teasing me in the park and went home crying. My father said to me " Why are you crying son" I told him this boy was teasing me, he comes right up to me and says look sone, they are probably laughing there asses off at you. You get back out there and knock there teath out and stop being such a pussy. I went out there and flogged the bloke but got a flogging off another kid at the same time.

He was a minor regional kickboxing champ in South Africa and thats his way for everything. Couldnt have been a more important lesson in my life

[bina]

my dad was a 'horatio halger' type story: poor jewish kid in lower east side, managed to go work thru school, go to city college, on to oberlin, get married, work in upper ranks in government for welfare/native american programs after moving sidewise and up thru the departments(IRS, HEW, HHS),now retired, and traipsing around with my mom, in the galapagos on holiday...

i was raised as a left wing social rights activist type; now kibbutznik of the old school (still slightly socialist) , still helping in civil rights (foreign workers)...

he taught us to think for our selves, stay true to our beliefs w/o going extreme, work hard at our jobs and budget ourselves without becoming miserly, one person is a stone that makes ripples, no need to be corporate manager, no shame in being a garbage collector... books and free thinking were his gospel (and quantum physics)... he manged to get along with high level types, professors, priests, rabbis, secretaries, homeless folks on 'the mall' (in d.c.), and our wierd teenage friends... he is eccentric (looks like a mad professor and sounds like one often) and it seems to be a dominant gene:)))

as a kid it ws often hard to have an eccentric (and outspoken about civil rights although working for the gov.) father, in uni it became an asset, and for his grandkids its great....

bina

israel

[lazeeboy]

my father taught me to be honest and find a job i liked doing as this would make life more pleasant ,so i signed on worked under the table and retired at 40 ,he was right ,i enjoyed every minute of life,thanks pop

[Chaimai]

My father taught me not to b a pussy, one day after school this kid was teasing me in the park and went home crying. My father said to me " Why are you crying son" I told him this boy was teasing me, he comes right up to me and says look sone, they are probably laughing there asses off at you. You get back out there and knock there teath out and stop being such a pussy. I went out there and flogged the bloke but got a flogging off another kid at the same time.

He was a minor regional kickboxing champ in South Africa and thats his way for everything. Couldnt have been a more important lesson in my life

The Donk had a father - that dispels one theory then.

Remarkable role model though.

[bkkjames]

I am just waiting for one of the Mods to come on here and ask us to keep in on topic. But then again, what's it got to do with Thailand.

[poshthai]

BBKJAMES

Whats it got to do with Thailand????Are you for real.

The poster,posted on thai visa for all us people who live in THAILAND to answer.I noticed you didnt answer????? but just moaned.

[toptuan]

My father taught me a lot through his bad example.

Ditto. Taught me to work hard (forced child labor in the family garden), while he laid around on his own lazy arse. Go figure.

When I hit 12 or 13 yrs. old, too proud to ask him for money, clothes, bicycle, etc. went out and got my own job and worked ever since. Now I'm in Thailand making 10% of my home country salary. A regular rags-to-rags story!

Edited August 4, 2008 by toptuan

[bkkjames]

BBKJAMES

Whats it got to do with Thailand????Are you for real.

The poster,posted on thai visa for all us people who live in THAILAND to answer.I noticed you didnt answer????? but just moaned.

I did answer before, perhaps if you took the time to do a little research before opening your trap, you wouldn't look like such an a*S

[ray23]

This has become the topic and thats OK, I'm never really very serious about what I post anyway. People enjoy commenting that is good enough for me.

[qwertz]

What was the topic again?

Fathers.

Many people here say there is no bad child, just bad parents.

In my childhood it was mostly kids from broken homes who later did best in life.

No rule is 100% but most of us who quit school at 14, lied about our ages and and worked hard full time grew up hard and independent.

Nevertheless, had it not been for the guidance of my mother and grandmother (my grandfather was also a plonker) I don't believe I'd

have carved a path through life's jungle so well.

I ignored every lesson I could have learned from my father and took about half the advice my mother offered.

I should have taken more but you can't turn back the hands of time.