What Did The Monk Mean?

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ff978472:

Well...easy for you to say, who hasn't had the experiences I have.

If that is all the advice you have to give me, I get it already from your previous post.

I understand that you dont believe in these things but I don't mind, really I don't.

You are entitled to believe in what you want, I can force you to see me as something you are not willing to see or believe in.

I know you didn't mean to be rude and neither do I, but from what you have written in your last two posts you don't seem have any constructive advice to give me.

This is how I see you and there is nothing wrong with that. None what so ever.

This is just the feeling I get from you.

I dont mean any harm to you, but perhaps you should try to open your mind just a little bit and don't be afraid of things you don't control or master yet.

You are a man between 30-37 years old.

Brown hair, glases or contact lenses. Probably a little bit nearsighted. Quite pale skin but not vampyric-white or something like that.

You like order and are almost pedantic in your work and your home.

You also dream about acomplishing something else in life or more like master it. For example buddhism.

You want to understand it and control it with all the correct terms and expressions. Like an intellectual project.

You want to know it all, and master it intellectually.

Where does this urge to "be somebody" come from? Who told you, you were a nobody?

It is like your brain understands it all, but what does your soul say??

I think you have a university degree that you seem to have struggled a lot with.

You are a smart man, no doubt about that but you also suck up to people with titles, highter degrees. Actually anything , as long as they are above you.

The ones below you or with less education can be interesting but you will always see yourself above them in every way.

You are not open for anything that doesn't come from a book or from someone you can respect. With respect I mean someone more enlightend than you are, from YOUR point of view.

Otherwise you can't accept the facts that normal people...acutally can get glimps of true enlightment in between ironing a shirt or cleaning the bathroom.

But it is a little hard for you to accept for some reason. You can't take it seriously, can you?

How can someone with no experience and no documented knowledge be gifted with things that you dont even BEGIN to understand?? Nor have any proof of.

Where is your true humbleness towards the people around you?

Why is it so important for you to be amongst the "right people" the ones with "documented goodness"?

Can't you feel in your heart and soul when another person is good, loving and caring , without looking at their CV?

But you already know all of this, and it is like you struggle with this within yourself from time to time.

But it is easier to stick your head in the sand and deny it all.

All you want is things to be normal, handable, and able to control.

I think you really want to do good but you are too afraid for some reason, to truely open up and stand for what you are, another unic person!

Some things are not meant to be provable in the ways of modern western science.

Some things are beyond what the human brain can understand with its often very logical thinking.

I believe that the soul has so much more wisdom, experience, love, empathy and creativity than the human brain can ever deal with.

I believe that the soul has lived many lives and for each life a littel bit of the puzzle towards completion falls into the right place. Every life adds something to the souls experiences and memory so that it will finally one day be one with the light again, from where our souls come from.

I appologize if I hurt you, it was not my attention. Please forgive me if I was ungentle.

Take care!

ComeHome, I can say that what you see me in your vision is 100% wrong, not even close.

Even my son can do it better

You said my comment was not constructive?

You want me to say something like "you have special power, you were born with gift, etc" ?

If that what you want then sorry, you will not find it from me because it's a lie. I can't say a lie.

A lie from me may make you feel good for a while but it will ruin you in the long run.

I've found so many of people like you.

You don't seek advice, you just only want someone to confirm what you beleive and make you feel great with your supernatural power.

Sorry I can't do that. So didn't that monk.

I tell you what, I wasted my time to post my comment with good intention.

I didn't want to see someone suffer from his/her illusion.

And see what I received back in return.

My advice is not constructive in your eyes because it doesn't fit your expectation and it's not what you want to hear so it become "wrong" advice.

Sorry I can't do otherwise because I am a direct person and I never sucked up people just to please them and make them suffer all their life.

You may want to wait here for someone who can give the advice "you want to hear". Bye.

[Comehome]

Well, this is nice

No, I am not looking for someone who can say what I want to hear.

I only want to understand why it is happening, that is all.

I was interested in the buddish view of my problem, nothing else.

You are the one trying to tell me that I shouldn't think I am special or have a special power, I haven ever mentioned that I think i have! See?!

You can say what you want, no one can ever know what is true here or not. And that is ok, I don't mind.

I just told you the feeling I get from you, not that this is how you are for a fact.

I am sure everyone have had a wrong feeling about someone sometimes, nothing bad in that.

I know you wrote here with good intentions and that was great.

I am sorry if I wasted your time, I didn't mean to step on your toes or something like that.

Perhaps I was wrong about you but it doesn't really matter, does it?

Right or wrong is not that important but I see that you had to tell me how wrong I was. I guess that was important to tell me that. At least for you.

However I can see that you let it get to you and I am sorry for that.

Well, as I wrote before, I don't see anything right or wrong in this, your answer is as good as anyone elses, I just think it is nice with all different point of views.

You seem to have missjudged me, from your way of seeing things and handling things, but it is fine.

I can't force you to think or believe the same things I do and you don't have to either.

Please understand that I don't write to make people angry or sad.

I write with no sense of judgement, prestiege or need to seem better or something more important than anyone else.

I hope you can understand how I mean. I don't try to put negative feelings into the words to make them more powerful or hurtful to anyone.

I really hope you understand, I am sorry for my bad english.

Take care!

[sabaijai]

Comehome: you may not have explicitly said that you have 'special powers' but your every post implies that you believe yourself to be clairvoyant.

Buddhism doesn't directly refute clairvoyance, but most Buddhist sources strongly suggest that it is not in any way useful on the path. Buddhism also does not confirm the existence of a soul, whether in life or death, whether 'old' or young.

Since this discussion so far has shown little relevance to Buddhism, I'm going to move it to General Topics, where you will get a wider audience.

[Comehome]

Ok. That is fine by me.

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Comehome: you may not have explicitly said that you have 'special powers' but your every post implies that you believe yourself to be clairvoyant.

Buddhism doesn't directly refute clairvoyance, but most Buddhist sources strongly suggest that it is not in any way useful on the path. Buddhism also does not confirm the existence of a soul, whether in life or death, whether 'old' or young.

Since this discussion so far has shown little relevance to Buddhism, I'm going to move it to General Topics, where you will get a wider audience.

Wrong topic. Should have gone to straight to the round filing cabinet.

What a load of absolute drivel.

The only real ghosts are the dead elephants that come back to haunt me after a good Chang Session.

Superstition, ghosts, hobgoblins and foul fiends (Brown and Darling apart) are all inventions of the rampant imagination of the human brain, fed by the desire to believe in something other than the reality of 65 odd years on this Earth and propagated by power besotted religions and small time crooks (clairvoyants, future tellers and so on) who want to feel important and earn money at the same time.

[CarlBkk]

Comehome: you may not have explicitly said that you have 'special powers' but your every post implies that you believe yourself to be clairvoyant.

Buddhism doesn't directly refute clairvoyance, but most Buddhist sources strongly suggest that it is not in any way useful on the path. Buddhism also does not confirm the existence of a soul, whether in life or death, whether 'old' or young.

Since this discussion so far has shown little relevance to Buddhism, I'm going to move it to General Topics, where you will get a wider audience.

Wrong topic. Should have gone to straight to the round filing cabinet.

What a load of absolute drivel.

The only real ghosts are the dead elephants that come back to haunt me after a good Chang Session.

Superstition, ghosts, hobgoblins and foul fiends (Brown and Darling apart) are all inventions of the rampant imagination of the human brain, fed by the desire to believe in something other than the reality of 65 odd years on this Earth and propagated by power besotted religions and small time crooks (clairvoyants, future tellers and so on) who want to feel important and earn money at the same time.

Buddy, before you knock something that has not been disproved or proved scientifically, book yourself an hour with a respected medium. Just an hour. Go in there disbelieving if you want, and go in there with the premise to test his abilities giving no information away. With the information they are likely to communicate about your, your family, your home, your life and your relatives who have passed away I am very very sure you will not post similar arrogant "drivel" again.

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Buddy, before you knock something that has not been disproved or proved scientifically, book yourself an hour with a respected medium. Just an hour. Go in there disbelieving if you want, and go in there with the premise to test his abilities giving no information away. With the information they are likely to communicate about your, your family, your home, your life and your relatives who have passed away I am very very sure you will not post similar arrogant "drivel" again.

In science it is up to the original scientist to show a demonstrable proof, which is then published and subject to peer review across the globe before it is accepted into the vast body of science.

One key property of all this pseudo-science drivel is that the inventors and believers expect somebody else to do the impossible job of proving or disproving it. The proof lies with the inventor and believer. If you believe in it, then you prove it. Unfortunately, as the power crazed leaders and indeed believers of such beliefs realise that no proof is possible, they resort to ridicule, threats and violence. Through this many many millions of humans have been killed in the history of human existence.

But I entirely accept that belief is an incredibly powerful force. It will take the poor ignorant believer to making the ultimate sacrifice for his/her religion. How big is the step from believing the drivel these "mediums" churn out to committing suicide?

And in its most benign form it distracts the hoi palloi from the tedium of day to day existence.

Edited September 7, 2008 by 12DrinkMore