September 12, 200817 yr Does anyone know where to buy shell grit and calcium carbonate? I'm told the shell grit is normally available from produce stores, but as I'm living in Bangkok I'm not sure where to look here. I need it for my aquaponics system to adjust the PH.
September 12, 200817 yr Hello Smithson, buy your wife 5Kg of hoi to eat, dry the shells, and grind up. My wife is saving shell for her mother to keep her mouth. and teeth that nice red color, yuck. rice555
September 12, 200817 yr Hello Smithson, this is the ag lime I use in the garden, it's from down south, I got it here in Korat. Contact number on the bag is 074-357-727 ,728, 729, 730. They may have what you want. rice555
September 12, 200817 yr How about going to your local seafood restaraunt and buying their oyster shells at the end of everyday? rgds
September 13, 200817 yr Does anyone know where to buy shell grit and calcium carbonate? I'm told the shell grit is normally available from produce stores, but as I'm living in Bangkok I'm not sure where to look here. I need it for my aquaponics system to adjust the PH. The Poon Khao is for adjusting PH level, what is the shell grit for ?
September 13, 200817 yr Author How about going to your local seafood restaraunt and buying their oyster shells at the end of everyday?rgds I asked my wife, but she won't do it. I'm not keen either, I can just see the looks on their faces! I'll try and get shell grit when I'm out of Bangkok. Rice, thanks for the tip, only thing is I'm not sure how to use it. Things will sort themselves out one way or another - there's only a few fish left! The high PH is making it difficult for the nitrogen cycle to work, so the tank has too much ammonia.
September 13, 200817 yr Smithson, dolomite is a lot gentler at adjusting PH and will help neutralise the ammonia .
September 13, 200817 yr Author Smithson, dolomite is a lot gentler at adjusting PH and will help neutralise the ammonia . Do you mean dolomite is gentler than ashes? I've got about 180 lts, with a Ph of 6 - 6.5. Any idea how much I should add? Will it neutralize the ammonia or help it convert to nitrate? The latter is what I want, it'll help the plants along. The shell grit it also for the PH, however it may work to stabilize the PH, but not actually adjust it. I'm using coco husks as a medium, this may be affecting the PH. I also think the source water is a problem.
September 13, 200817 yr Smithson, dolomite is a lot gentler at adjusting PH and will help neutralise the ammonia . Do you mean dolomite is gentler than ashes? I've got about 180 lts, with a Ph of 6 - 6.5. Any idea how much I should add? Will it neutralize the ammonia or help it convert to nitrate? The latter is what I want, it'll help the plants along. The shell grit it also for the PH, however it may work to stabilize the PH, but not actually adjust it. I'm using coco husks as a medium, this may be affecting the PH. I also think the source water is a problem. I am at a bit of a loss re what you are trying to accomplish , at 6-6.5 you are in the right range for most veggies, if you change your PH to below 5.5 or above 7 ,then you can adversely affect your micro-organisms which in turn affects their ability to convert ammonia. With such a small quantity of water ,I think it would be advisable to use Phosphoric Acid to lower your PH and Potassium Hydroxide to raise it.
September 13, 200817 yr Hello Smithson, about 6 years back I was on an Aquaponicks board, I started to look for the url and think I may have found it. I don't know if it's still active group. It is a Midwest US group, so the weather and things are different. The had good discussions on grow beds, filters and Ph adjustment without killing you fish or filter. *Aquaponics* mail group is an open list specifically for aquaponics - the combined systems of aquaculture and hydroponics. The list is a general information exchange forum of folks who share a common interest in aquaponics and related subjects. Subscription information is: Send a message to [email protected] In the body type SUBSCRIBE This is where I found the link again. There may also be a group in OZ. UVI has really grown from when I first found it through the Aquaponics board. http://www.egr.msu.edu/age/aenewsletter/1_...igan9_10_02.htm http://www.urbanaquaponics.com.au/ http://rps.uvi.edu/AES/Aquaculture/UVIShortCourse.html I always liked the bottle cap filter, see pix. The rest of the bottle cap system. UVI has gotten BIG. rice555
September 15, 200817 yr Author Smithson, dolomite is a lot gentler at adjusting PH and will help neutralise the ammonia . Do you mean dolomite is gentler than ashes? I've got about 180 lts, with a Ph of 6 - 6.5. Any idea how much I should add? Will it neutralize the ammonia or help it convert to nitrate? The latter is what I want, it'll help the plants along. The shell grit it also for the PH, however it may work to stabilize the PH, but not actually adjust it. I'm using coco husks as a medium, this may be affecting the PH. I also think the source water is a problem. I am at a bit of a loss re what you are trying to accomplish , at 6-6.5 you are in the right range for most veggies, if you change your PH to below 5.5 or above 7 ,then you can adversely affect your micro-organisms which in turn affects their ability to convert ammonia. With such a small quantity of water ,I think it would be advisable to use Phosphoric Acid to lower your PH and Potassium Hydroxide to raise it. Dom, The PH is 6 now and there's too much ammonia. I want to raise it to 7 - 7.5, apparently this is the desirable range for the micro organisms. Any idea what potassium hydroxide is called in Thai and the availability?
September 15, 200817 yr Smithson, dolomite is a lot gentler at adjusting PH and will help neutralise the ammonia . Do you mean dolomite is gentler than ashes? I've got about 180 lts, with a Ph of 6 - 6.5. Any idea how much I should add? Will it neutralize the ammonia or help it convert to nitrate? The latter is what I want, it'll help the plants along. The shell grit it also for the PH, however it may work to stabilize the PH, but not actually adjust it. I'm using coco husks as a medium, this may be affecting the PH. I also think the source water is a problem. I am at a bit of a loss re what you are trying to accomplish , at 6-6.5 you are in the right range for most veggies, if you change your PH to below 5.5 or above 7 ,then you can adversely affect your micro-organisms which in turn affects their ability to convert ammonia. With such a small quantity of water ,I think it would be advisable to use Phosphoric Acid to lower your PH and Potassium Hydroxide to raise it. Dom, The PH is 6 now and there's too much ammonia. I want to raise it to 7 - 7.5, apparently this is the desirable range for the micro organisms. Any idea what potassium hydroxide is called in Thai and the availability? I would imagine that you are using a small pump in your setup,but if not why not fit a small aquarium pump and a Zeolite filter. These are both available at any decent aquarium and fish supplier. The zeolite filter usually is filled with zeolite chips and cheap to replace and are great for filtering out ammonia without the problems of using chemical agents . It is also claimed that aeration can reduce ammonia,so a small air pump and stone could be beneficial. Your micro-organisms and fish will also benefit from aeration.
September 16, 200817 yr Author Smithson, dolomite is a lot gentler at adjusting PH and will help neutralise the ammonia . Do you mean dolomite is gentler than ashes? I've got about 180 lts, with a Ph of 6 - 6.5. Any idea how much I should add? Will it neutralize the ammonia or help it convert to nitrate? The latter is what I want, it'll help the plants along. The shell grit it also for the PH, however it may work to stabilize the PH, but not actually adjust it. I'm using coco husks as a medium, this may be affecting the PH. I also think the source water is a problem. I am at a bit of a loss re what you are trying to accomplish , at 6-6.5 you are in the right range for most veggies, if you change your PH to below 5.5 or above 7 ,then you can adversely affect your micro-organisms which in turn affects their ability to convert ammonia. With such a small quantity of water ,I think it would be advisable to use Phosphoric Acid to lower your PH and Potassium Hydroxide to raise it. Dom, The PH is 6 now and there's too much ammonia. I want to raise it to 7 - 7.5, apparently this is the desirable range for the micro organisms. Any idea what potassium hydroxide is called in Thai and the availability? I would imagine that you are using a small pump in your setup,but if not why not fit a small aquarium pump and a Zeolite filter. These are both available at any decent aquarium and fish supplier. The zeolite filter usually is filled with zeolite chips and cheap to replace and are great for filtering out ammonia without the problems of using chemical agents . It is also claimed that aeration can reduce ammonia,so a small air pump and stone could be beneficial. Your micro-organisms and fish will also benefit from aeration. Dom, yes I'm using the small pump. Regarding the ammonia removal, the idea with aquaponics is that the ammonia is converted to nitrate, then nitrite and then is taken up by the plants. To do this you need the bacteria and the correct PH.
September 17, 200817 yr Here are a few local (Thailand) Calcium Carbonate vendors: #1: Company Name: Puttarn Trader Limited Partnership Street Address: 131 M Oo12, Thapon, Petchaboon, 67250, Thailand City: Petchaboon Province/State: Petchaboon Country/Region: Thailand Zip: 67250 Telephone: 66-89241-3824 Mobile Phone: 668-92413824 Fax: 662-947-3233 #2: Company Name: Calcium Products Co., Ltd Street Address: Sukhumvit105 City: Bangkok Country/Region: Thailand Zip: 10260 Telephone: 66-02-7444523 Fax: 66-02-3985453 Website: http://www.calciumthai.com #3: Company Name: Quality Minerals Co., Ltd. Street Address: 9/19 Akarnyarnphahol, Phaholyothin road, Lardyao, Jatujak, Bangkok City: BANGKOK Province/State: Bangkok Country/Region: Thailand Zip: 10900 Telephone: 66-2-6184700 Fax: 66-2-6184701 Edited September 17, 200817 yr by joeycano
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