October 17, 200817 yr THIS picture sums up how far family life in Britain 2008 has strayed from traditional values. Jobless George Lee, 28, hugs his pregnant wife Stacey, 21 — yet the baby boy she is carrying proudly is NOT his. She inseminated herself using a 50p turkey baster and sperm from George's stepfather Paul, 57. Stacey and her hubby already have one child each from previous relationships but both youngsters are being looked after by Social Services. They say they intend to hand over Stacey's new tot to George's mother, Janet Cheetham, 54, — then all live happily together. At least, that was until social workers stepped in after hearing about the bizarre pact. Now they have been warned that the baby could be taken from them as soon as he is born. Stacey, married to George for 18 months, accused social workers yesterday of wrecking the foursome's dream of living together as one big family. She said: We were all set and now they have stepped in and ruined it all. I was going to have the baby and immediately hand him over to Janet and Paul. Angry They would have brought him up as their own and everyone would have been happy. They would have had the child they so want and me and George would have had a lovely little brother. We were all going to live as one big happy family. Now they have ruined it. Angry Janet, who has three sons aged between 28 and 34, a daughter of 32 and is also a grandmother, said: "Social services will have robbed me of my dream if they take the baby away. "They only got involved when we told hospital staff about the surrogacy. "That child will be loved and cared for. "We've already spent over £1,500 on a cot, pram, toys and clothes. "We all went shopping for it together — me, Stacey, Paul and George. "We picked out names for the baby — Jamie Harvey Leyton." Happy George, who has a conviction for ABH, and worked at a shop until he was sacked a few years ago, has a son aged six. He said: "All I wanted to do was make my mum happy. Social services keep referring to the baby as 'Baby Lee' but it's not, it's 'Baby Cheetham'. "My stepfather Paul is the baby's father, not me." Speaking in Clayton, Manchester — at a council house they have all been sharing before the birth — Janet said Stacey artificially inseminated herself after reading how to on the internet. She used the turkey baster and a Pyrex dish bought from discount store Wilkinson. Janet said: "We did it over a period of three months here at the house. "Paul would go off and do his stuff then Stacey would inseminate herself upstairs while me, George and Paul waited downstairs. It took three goes." Scottish-born Janet, who had a hysterectomy nearly 20 years ago after getting womb cancer, said she had been desperate for a baby with second husband Paul, a coach driver, since they wed 18 years ago. She said: "We always wanted our own child but until recently it wasn't possible, then there were all these medical advances with IVF and surrogacy. "I knew about surrogacy but there was no one I could ask until Stacey came along. I didn't expect her to say yes but I was so delighted when she did." She said of the Social Services warning: "We are going to fight it in the courts." Stacey, whose two-year-old daughter has now been adopted, said: "Me and George aren't planning to have our own baby until a few more years." Dr Adrian Rogers, a GP and former director of the Conservative Family Institute, said: "This is feckless, selfish siring of children. "It will damage the existing children and the forthcoming baby by confusing them. The 54-year-old woman will never be its mother genetically so that will confuse the child. "The worst thing is that this woman and her husband will be in their seventies when this child is a teenager. "What this family has done comes out of a lack of intelligence, insight and responsibility." Close knit ... a happy Paul, Janet, Stacey and George await the birth of new tot Edited October 17, 200817 yr by Boater
October 17, 200817 yr Been people like this around since the year dot Boats. As Tigger would say, "there's nowt as queer as folk". I can see why the step father didn't do the deed personally and save the price of a turkey baster.
October 17, 200817 yr She inseminated herself using a 50p turkey baster Well at least the kid should always be looking forward to Christmas. "Well Stacey, what type of birth control did you and George use? Did you use a Durex?" "Naaah, we used a...................... Pyrex Boom boom!
October 17, 200817 yr It's always heartening to see people like this reproducing. I bet that the little "baster" from that reproductive seraglio goes on to win a Nobel Prize, or finds a cure for cancer....? Probably not. I hope someone similarly slaughters them all them for Christmas.
October 17, 200817 yr I really thought this was a 'joke' thread, then I kept reading and realised that it was true. Family life in Britain indeed...
October 17, 200817 yr A Turkey Shoot? You couldn'y make it up I would like to say Good Luck but the baby is gunna need as much as she/he can get Moss
October 17, 200817 yr I don't know why, but the words 'knob of butter' sprang into my head....... one day I hope to be able to work out why my mind does these things to me.
October 18, 200817 yr You sure the pregnant lady is 21?? Interesting, wasn't there a doctor in Italy artificially inseminating women in their 50s? Wonder why Italy doesn't care?
October 18, 200817 yr There's a woman aged 59 who gave birth to triplets recently, in France. And did that guy in the States give birth yet?
October 18, 200817 yr There's a woman aged 59 who gave birth to triplets recently, in France.And did that guy in the States give birth yet? Yes
October 18, 200817 yr There's a woman aged 59 who gave birth to triplets recently, in France.And did that guy in the States give birth yet? Yes I refuse to open the link Moss
October 20, 200817 yr It seems the whole social structure of the country is changing.............. Well they have to pay the rent somehow.... Getting back to the turkey baster where can I get one? Eden club?
October 21, 200817 yr Well I've got an account with Barclays and the women behind the counter don't dress in uniforms like those. I'm gonna complain! Anyway just to provide an update on UK family life in 2008. Girl, 13, who smokes drinks and has sex 'rewarded' by mother with cigarettes A 13-year-old girl who has had four sexual partners, smokes dope, drinks beer and has been excluded from school 40 times is considered "sweet" by her mother and given cigarettes as rewards for good behaviour. Tracy Holt, 43, says there are a "lot worse things" her daughter Sam could be doing than smoking 15 cigarettes a day, and believes that because she herself hasn't yet suffered from cancer, "she'll probably be alright anyway". She knows her daughter hangs out with friends in the street, drinking cans of lager and smoking pot, but says she is simply glad Sam is not "a proper drunk" and has not graduated to harder drugs. "I don't see the point in punishing her. If I ground her, I'm just punishing myself because I have to put up with her in the house," she said. "Instead, I reward her good behaviour by giving her cigarettes. If she's bad, she goes without. "She's a little comedian. I let her get away with a lot of cheek. It's sweet." Mrs Holt, a jobless single mother with two other grown-up children who smokes 20 cigarettes a day herself, said giving them out as a reward "works". She said: "There are a lot worse things she could be doing. We've all got to die sometime. I haven't got cancer from smoking so she'll probably be all right anyway." Sam agrees that she will do more around the family home, in Gosport, Hampshire, when bribed. "If Mum tells me to tidy my room, I ignore her but if she offers me a fag, I do it," she said. She admits to having had four sexual partners in less than a year, but told Closer magazine: "I only sleep with boyfriends. I worry about getting pregnant because I don't want kids until I'm married so I always use condoms." Sam lost her virginity when she was 12, and told her mother shortly afterwards. Miss Holt said she was shocked at first but hid her feelings well. "I thought it was a joke, so I laughed," she said. "I was disappointed. No mother wants to know her 12-year-old is having sex but I'm glad she told me. "I didn't show I was angry and just kept it to myself." She went on: "It wasn't a one-night stand. She had been dating the guy for a couple of weeks. I took her to the doctor's the next day to get her on the Pill. I've told her to use condoms." Sam's track record at school leaves a lot to be desired, and she has been excluded for bad behaviour more than 40 times. "Sam got suspended for the first time after she climbed on to the school roof," she said. "I shouted at her and then explained she shouldn't climb on roofs because she could fall off. I didn't know what else to do." She believes her daughter's behaviour is down to the teachers at her school who were "too soft" with her. "Now she is at a special school where there are fewer kids in each class," she said. "Hopefully these teachers will be stricter and she will finally get the discipline that's needed." This from today's Daily Telegraph is apparently true and is part of an interview in Closer magazine. It beggars belief.
October 21, 200817 yr Is it just me,or are the vast majority of UK residents I left behind as thick as two short planks.
October 21, 200817 yr Is it just me,or are the vast majority of UK residents I left behind as thick as two short planks. No, not the majority, just a 'goodly' number!
October 21, 200817 yr It beggars belief. You couldn't make it up!! I also think it is only the elements outside the norm that get high-lighted, a little like a Gaussian Curve or distribution, only the extreme Good or Bad are reported, the majority fit in to what is generally regarded as the norm. But how people fall so widely from what I consider to be proper Parental Control is beyond me. Good Luck Moss
October 22, 200817 yr The thing that really strikes home is the action/inaction of the social services. In the OP the people involved are all consenting adults and AFAIK have committed no crime. They may come over as a bunch of fur balls to the rest of us but they have not broken the law but still the social services are butting in. In the second case the mother is quite openly admitting that her daughter engages in underage sex, smokes cigarettes and drinks alcohol whilst underage and takes illegal drugs (age immaterial) and the social services, apparently, do nothing. It also shows the complete and utter disdain for the law that these low lifes have that they are totally open and brazen about their behaviour. Of course it might be that social services know nothing of the illegal activities but the girl's school record alone should be a warning sign to alert the authorities. Sometimes I am happy to be entering the twilight of my years as I am fast coming of the opinion that I must be a different species from these people. Maybe evolution has selective reverse gears and, given time, one of these retro-strains will make it back to the missing link.
October 22, 200817 yr The thing that really strikes home is the action/inaction of the social services.In the OP the people involved are all consenting adults and AFAIK have committed no crime. They may come over as a bunch of fur balls to the rest of us but they have not broken the law but still the social services are butting in. In the second case the mother is quite openly admitting that her daughter engages in underage sex, smokes cigarettes and drinks alcohol whilst underage and takes illegal drugs (age immaterial) and the social services, apparently, do nothing. It also shows the complete and utter disdain for the law that these low lifes have that they are totally open and brazen about their behaviour. Of course it might be that social services know nothing of the illegal activities but the girl's school record alone should be a warning sign to alert the authorities. Sometimes I am happy to be entering the twilight of my years as I am fast coming of the opinion that I must be a different species from these people. Maybe evolution has selective reverse gears and, given time, one of these retro-strains will make it back to the missing link. Hi I completely understand your sentiments Phil having just returned from my 'old stomping ground.' These types can be seen in every town/city in the UK congregating around '99p' shops/amusement arcades/pubs and Job Centres. Unfortunately the concept of providing for your family has now missed a generation (or2) The TV show 'Little Britain' is looking more and more like a reality show as time goes on Dave
October 22, 200817 yr Now now Dave, Laughing at your own jokes will lead to hair growing on the palms of your hands. Always tricky in a social context, " Hi my names Dave " " <deleted> is that on your hand......... ". Situations like that always best avoided. Note to self: Stop lunch time drinking.
October 22, 200817 yr Note to alter-ego : Stop drink time lunching. Still the one thing she does have going for her is that at 13 she's a bit too old for GG. Ooooh! Very biatchy. The second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of your hands. The first sign is looking for it.
October 23, 200817 yr Note to alter-ego : Stop drink time lunching.Still the one thing she does have going for her is that at 13 she's a bit too old for GG. Ooooh! Very biatchy. The second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of your hands. The first sign is looking for it. The first sign of senility is loss of memory I can't remember what the second sign is CB
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