Wifi Internet

[NarcissusRIP]

Hi everybody,

I have wifi access at my condo, thats all nice but:

It is an unsecure wifi network, they only use MAC address filtering.

MAC address cloning seems to be so easy these days.

All wifi equipment supports some form of protection to create a secure network.

So I wonder why they don't secure the wifi network?....

I like to listen music streams on the internet now and then but somehow it seems someone tries to intercept/stop my stream, the internet connection is fast enough to run multiple streams at one time, so thats not the problem.

It seems more like someone(local network admin?) in the building tries to "prevent" me listening from my streams, don't get me wrong, I'm an experienced internet user, and this is not normal.

And does anyone know something about the Thai LAW, internet and PRIVACY.

About the condo owners/wifi internetproviders that cache the data/webpages you visit?

Thanks in advance for any comment/help/suggestions.

[kiakaha]

Key management(for WEP and WPA) is usually the issue.

For a little peace of mind, if you are visting a secure site (https), then although you are on an unsecured wifi connection, the layer 6 data packets being transmitted are still encrypted.

Likewise if you are Remote Desktop'ing (RDP) or on a VPN, as I often am, then the packets are encrypted.

[NarcissusRIP]

Key management(for WEP and WPA) is usually the issue.

For a little peace of mind, if you are visting a secure site (https), then although you are on an unsecured wifi connection, the layer 6 data packets being transmitted are still encrypted.

Likewise if you are Remote Desktop'ing (RDP) or on a VPN, as I often am, then the packets are encrypted.

Thanks Kiakaha, yes I know WEP / WPA should be used, and I wonder why they don't use it?

There are 4 AP's in this building(there are more, but not belong to the local network).

I do know that with visiting secure sites the data is encrypted, but many sites are not using SSL.

How about condo owners that provide internet connection but caching the pages, are there any rules/laws for this concerning privacy?

[dogleg]

Key management(for WEP and WPA) is usually the issue.

For a little peace of mind, if you are visting a secure site (https), then although you are on an unsecured wifi connection, the layer 6 data packets being transmitted are still encrypted.

Likewise if you are Remote Desktop'ing (RDP) or on a VPN, as I often am, then the packets are encrypted.

Good to know this. At least my business stuff is private!

(reminds me of the old Irish joke.

Q: What's the best way to get to x?

A: Well if i was you, I wouldnt start from here!)

It's the way I tell em!

OP. I wouldnt worry to much about the law. You pay your money and take your choice/chances.

More likely your downloads are being restricted further up the chain than the Lan admin. They are probably not paying ISP for a package that allows unrestricted international streaming, despite any advertising to the contrary.

Everybody is being forced to upgrade these days.

[NarcissusRIP]

Key management(for WEP and WPA) is usually the issue.

For a little peace of mind, if you are visting a secure site (https), then although you are on an unsecured wifi connection, the layer 6 data packets being transmitted are still encrypted.

Likewise if you are Remote Desktop'ing (RDP) or on a VPN, as I often am, then the packets are encrypted.

Good to know this. At least my business stuff is private!

(reminds me of the old Irish joke.

Q: What's the best way to get to x?

A: Well if i was you, I wouldnt start from here!)

It's the way I tell em!

OP. I wouldnt worry to much about the law. You pay your money and take your choice/chances.

More likely your downloads are being restricted further up the chain than the Lan admin. They are probably not paying ISP for a package that allows unrestricted international streaming, despite any advertising to the contrary.

Everybody is being forced to upgrade these days.

Thanks for your replies guys.

However I'm not Remote Desktop'ing (RDP)..

And I don't have any problem to get to x

What I mean is PRIVACY: no one at this building has to know what sites I visit, either the page or url.

Some time ago the condo owner here had a comment(coincidentally?) and that had to do with a webpage that I visited that day... So how could he know?

[kiakaha]

Key management(for WEP and WPA) is usually the issue.

For a little peace of mind, if you are visting a secure site (https), then although you are on an unsecured wifi connection, the layer 6 data packets being transmitted are still encrypted.

Likewise if you are Remote Desktop'ing (RDP) or on a VPN, as I often am, then the packets are encrypted.

Good to know this. At least my business stuff is private!

(reminds me of the old Irish joke.

Q: What's the best way to get to x?

A: Well if i was you, I wouldnt start from here!)

It's the way I tell em!

OP. I wouldnt worry to much about the law. You pay your money and take your choice/chances.

More likely your downloads are being restricted further up the chain than the Lan admin. They are probably not paying ISP for a package that allows unrestricted international streaming, despite any advertising to the contrary.

Everybody is being forced to upgrade these days.

Thanks for your replies guys.

However I'm not Remote Desktop'ing (RDP)..

And I don't have any problem to get to x

What I mean is PRIVACY: no one at this building has to know what sites I visit, either the page or url.

Some time ago the condo owner here had a comment(coincidentally?) and that had to do with a webpage that I visited that day... So how could he know?

do you have a option to plug into the physical LAN ? I always do this rather than WIFI where possible.

[NarcissusRIP]

Key management(for WEP and WPA) is usually the issue.

For a little peace of mind, if you are visting a secure site (https), then although you are on an unsecured wifi connection, the layer 6 data packets being transmitted are still encrypted.

Likewise if you are Remote Desktop'ing (RDP) or on a VPN, as I often am, then the packets are encrypted.

Good to know this. At least my business stuff is private!

(reminds me of the old Irish joke.

Q: What's the best way to get to x?

A: Well if i was you, I wouldnt start from here!)

It's the way I tell em!

OP. I wouldnt worry to much about the law. You pay your money and take your choice/chances.

More likely your downloads are being restricted further up the chain than the Lan admin. They are probably not paying ISP for a package that allows unrestricted international streaming, despite any advertising to the contrary.

Everybody is being forced to upgrade these days.

Thanks for your replies guys.

However I'm not Remote Desktop'ing (RDP)..

And I don't have any problem to get to x

What I mean is PRIVACY: no one at this building has to know what sites I visit, either the page or url.

Some time ago the condo owner here had a comment(coincidentally?) and that had to do with a webpage that I visited that day... So how could he know?

do you have a option to plug into the physical LAN ? I always do this rather than WIFI where possible.

Unfortunately not..

So I feel like being "stalked" somehow:(

[dogleg]

Key management(for WEP and WPA) is usually the issue.

For a little peace of mind, if you are visting a secure site (https), then although you are on an unsecured wifi connection, the layer 6 data packets being transmitted are still encrypted.

Likewise if you are Remote Desktop'ing (RDP) or on a VPN, as I often am, then the packets are encrypted.

Good to know this. At least my business stuff is private!

(reminds me of the old Irish joke.

Q: What's the best way to get to x?

A: Well if i was you, I wouldnt start from here!)

It's the way I tell em!

OP. I wouldnt worry to much about the law. You pay your money and take your choice/chances.

More likely your downloads are being restricted further up the chain than the Lan admin. They are probably not paying ISP for a package that allows unrestricted international streaming, despite any advertising to the contrary.

Everybody is being forced to upgrade these days.

Thanks for your replies guys.

However I'm not Remote Desktop'ing (RDP)..

And I don't have any problem to get to x

What I mean is PRIVACY: no one at this building has to know what sites I visit, either the page or url.

Some time ago the condo owner here had a comment(coincidentally?) and that had to do with a webpage that I visited that day... So how could he know?

do you have a option to plug into the physical LAN ? I always do this rather than WIFI where possible.

Absolutely. If you dont trust them, then you are probably right not to. I'm no tech but for sure they can monitor your traffic if they want to, and the fact of it being unsecured probably gives them some "cover" if you were to directly blame them for anything untoward. It's certainly not unsecured for your benefit.

Don't do any banking on that net will you?!

and make sure your machine is clean!

[NarcissusRIP]

Absolutely. If you dont trust them, then you are probably right not to. I'm no tech but for sure they can monitor your traffic if they want to, and the fact of it being unsecured probably gives them some "cover" if you were to directly blame them for anything untoward. It's certainly not unsecured for your benefit.

Don't do any banking on that net will you?!

and make sure your machine is clean!

But can they legally do such?

I understand that big ISP's do this, but I don't live with them thats a difference there,

big ISP's don't know the person using the connection but the condo owner sees you everyday.

I don't do any banking on this net.

And you understand the reason why I don't do that.

My machine is clean and using firewall/anti virus.

Edited November 28, 2008 by NarcissusRIP